How many people do you feel know you, better than you know yourself?
By kitty42
@kitty42 (3923)
United States
September 15, 2009 12:26pm CST
I joined in a great discussion similar to this recently, this particular response stood out to me, so tell me my friends is this possible for someone to know you better than you know yourself?
I talked to my brother about this he tried to explain it,I still don't get it, maybe one of you can help me, I don't agree with this by the way,I don't think no one knows me better than me, but this is my opinion, please share yours with me, help me to understand how this could be possible, I am willing to look at things differently but you have to help me to understand how this can be
so I am calling on all of you wonderful mylotters to either prove me right, or prove me wrong I am willing to agree if I can understand.
Tell me who knows you better than you know yourself? explain what makes you feel this way.
Thanking you in advance.
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19 responses
@aprces (1082)
• China
15 Sep 09
Everyone's close relatives must be know how a person you are.For me,my parents and my GF knows me clearly,although I often refuse that factor.Sometimes because of generation gap,my parents can't understand me well,but my GF is not the same
This is our unalive and blurry consciousness.Most of us used to believe I'm the unique one who is know myself best.One aspect is,very often,we can't see ourselves clearly; on the other hand,we actually know that factor but refusing to accept that is what I am just like you
Those closely involved cannot see clearly.This is a Chinese saying beside that is the spectators see the chess game better than the players
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@aprces (1082)
• China
15 Sep 09
How to judge whether a decision is good or not by yours? But 4 sorts below:
1.profit yourself at the expense of others
2.profit others at the expense of yourself
3.profit all at the expense of nobody
4.profit nobody at the expense of all
No matter what different thinking involved and no matter what understanding you got and no matter who is the best insider of yours,just reference rules above,the key is not who is the best one that knows you well but a more efficient result
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello aprces
My mom who has raised me does not know me better than I know me, its impossible, for 1 there are things about me she does not know, a lover same difference they know us yes, but not every detail there are things they may never see that we have stored away, I use to say I knew my boyfriend better than he knew himself, that was not true I knew his ways so there fore I knew when he would do something before he actually did it, but to say I knew him better not at all.
Those closely involved cannot see clearly.This is a Chinese saying beside that is the spectators see the chess game better than the players
I love this saying, same as "people on the outside looking in" when two people are explaining something to someone you being the outsider may see things differently does not mean you know better,you just have a different mind set so your going to see things the other two are not willing to see.
Thank you so much for sharing this. please return so we can discuss further thank you.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hi Kitty :) I think no one knows our thoughts and feelings better than we do, but as to behavior and mannerisms? Yes indeed, they can. We tend not to realize some of our behaviors, good or bad, until someone points them out to us.
And a psychologist once told me that often times, people around a depressed person who was being treated, but again lapsing into a depressive state recognized it before the "patient" did.
Have a great afternoon.
Karen
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
18 Sep 09
Yes, I do understand what you mean, but I cannot!!! stop laughing about the stick bahaha!
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello my friend
I see your point, as for me I can't think of anything I do conscious or unconsciously that someone would have to point out to me, I honestly can't think of a thing, I am always conscious of what I do, I do know people that may do something silly/dumb I will point it out to them but never think they were not aware they just did not think at the moment, I remember one time me and some associates was having fun drinking acting silly, so the next day one of my associates got a kick out of it cause she never saw me this way, she insisted on pointing out everything I did, I stopped her I told her everything I did and said, I will never drink so much that I forget, I know people do this I don't get it, but I believe it is possible, not sure why this is my friend but I am always conscious all the time, I make mistakes ofcourse, my behavior and mannerisms are in check at all times,someone said to me once its nice to see you relaxed without acting like you have a stick up your butt don't you dare laugh, in my defense this person does not know me, she only know of me, she saw a side she never see because I am not around her lol (you still laughing) I am serious alot of the time but I do have fun with people I like, o.k I will stop now.
Do you understand what I mean lol
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello my friend
Thank you so much,I agree 1000% but we shall see who does not agree, I hope people respond to this discussion it can be great if the right people respond, thank you so much for you input, I am willing to say hmmmm, if someone makes that light bulb go off in my head I hope this happens lol
Thank you so much.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
17 Sep 09
hi kitty.
my wife says, "i know you better honey, than yourself." and i can't help but believe in her statement. there were times, i can't recall it did this and that. and sometimes, she can tell that i am going to do this though myself believe that i can't.
aside from my wife, i know some friends over here, that can say, "neil, i know you and i know you better than yourself. you can do it."
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
21 Sep 09
Hello my friend
I believe they know your ways, but do you really think they know you every thought? nah but you can be around a person long enough and pick up on their like and dislikes, for a person to know you know better than you know yourself this would mean they can get inside your head, the only way they can do this is by the things you tell them, now if you share your every thought with them, than that is different
Thank you, please come back and tell me what you feel about this.
@gracefuldove (1668)
• Malaysia
16 Sep 09
Perhaps some will know you better than others. No one will know you better, I am sure, but yourself. This is because we do not show all of ourselves in public. There are secrets we keep. There are weaknesses we do not show. Some people will see certain facets of us;others would not see it. Some people can piece things together, most do not want to. So, in conclusion, no one will know you better than yourself.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hello
I agree, was hoping someone would have tried to convince me otherwise, would have been fun, oh well this in all reality is impossible how can anyone know you better than you know yourself, I mean really as I said before my grandson who just turned 7 I can't say I know him better than he knows himself he has not been here that long yet this is still impossible to say
Thank you.
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
15 Sep 09
I think some people may notice things about me that I don't pay much attention to but that doesn't qualify as them knowing more than I do about me.
Personally, I think I am responsible enough and I've done soul searching and self discovery to get acquainted with myself.
I do know some people who are "blind" and don't realize what they're doing is wrong. I don't think I know them better. I just think that they choose to remain oblivious to the fact that they're making mistakes.
I know someone who drinks irresponsibly, cuts herself, goes dating and sleeps around just because she got dumped. She says she knows what she's doing and she doesnt believe shes wrong. She says I THINK I know her better than she does. Thing is, I don't. I just know what she's doing is wrong. That doesn't mean I know her better.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello my friend
What a great example my friend, I love it I really think people get these things confused, I consider myself a really deep individual I am constantly thinking and learning new things to improve myself, I know who I am and what I can take, my family don't know how to relate to me honestly then don't understand me although my mom has been around me all my life, I always seem to surprise her and this shocks me because you should know enough to know what will make me react, my daughter who out of anyone I would think would be the fastest to say she knows me better but she don't because she can't thats my child I can't say this about her, I know she works my nerve and there are things I do know, but there are things I don't I am here mom she is going to let me but so much.
I really like how you explained this, people say this to me as well, you think you know me better no darling I know your ways is all, its impossible to actually get into someone head that is the only way you will actually know them completely and this will never happen, unless hypnosis plays a part on the equation lol
I have an issue with therapy because I don't get how they actually know if they are helping someone really, how do they know if the person is telling them everything, people tell me they have books that teach them how to get things out of the patients I don't know seems to me everything boils down to the same thing your parents did something wrong, you are missing something from your childhood, I can say that, come lay on my couch.
Thank you my friend.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hello my friend
Thank you so much, you are right again my friend,I think that is what it comes down to as far as therapy is concerned I have never been but it seems the conclusion is always the same I may be wrong, I wont knock it, I may actually try it just to see what they tell me,who knows I may learn something.
my daughter friend use to say she knew my daughter better than me,this really pissed me off because who would say that to someones mom, you may know things about her that I don't know but you don't know here better, who's to say I may be wrong about that lol.
Thank you my friend .
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
16 Sep 09
I think we're on the same boat.
When people get close to me, they're always surprised by what they find out about me because they like to assume. I think people like to assume things without thinking. My Mom gets surprised every now and then by the way I think and with the things I do as well. She says she knows me but I would tell her, well, you know some things about me but there's a lot you don't know about me, too.
And about therapy, for the most part, I think people just need someone to turn to. You can only succeed if you help yourself. That's what I think. No amount of therapy can help you if you refuse to help yourself.
A lot of people turn to therapy because they find some comfort in speaking to someone who has the proper credentials but, hey, I've been there and it didn't work for me. I'm not discouraging it but as I said, you only learn and get through when you learn to help yourself.
Thanks for the wonderful discussion.
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@mikeysmom (2088)
• United States
16 Sep 09
i do not think anyone knows me better than i know myself. i have friends but i am not really close to anyone and i have sisters and they know me well of course but not better than i know myself. i am not sure that is even possible. i think everyone knows themselves better than anyone else does.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hello mikeysmom
I agree,I think people confuse knowing each other well with knowing more, I agree this is impossible, but yes someone can know your ways that is expected after being around someone for a certain length of time, I know alot of my associates ways some need to be changed, others is just lost no matter how you look at it.
I know someone that everytime I am around here she say things like I was just about to do this or do that, when I know this is not true,because if I see you tomorrow the same things will not be done, yet she does this all the time as if I don't see what is going on, I find this sad, what do you call that? denial something to that affect, this happens all the time, its like she don't see what we see, or she don't think we see I don't know, she could be a good person she has many issues, I feel bad for her.
Thank you for sharing.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
15 Sep 09
People may say they know you better than you know yourself, but they only know the person that you show to the world. I can tell how many people will react to many things because I have studied people for many years but I could never say I know anyone better than they know themselves. Many times people don't look very deeply into themselves, but still somewhere deep in their minds they still know themselves the best.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello my friend
I agree,when I watch people I shack my head sometimes cause they are so lost and have so much learning to do its amazing, I spend enough time by myself that I know me really well, I knew from childhood I was different and that mentally I was blessed, when I had my daughter I was really young but people use to tell me how great I was and how proud they were of me, they say things like you seem to have changed over night, I never changed I just became more focused and decided to stop acting like a child and more like the woman I was becoming, at a young age I would watch adults take this from that one, don't want any of that from this one I knew what would work for me and what would not, yes I feel blessed if people actually took time to spend time with themselves they would know themselves much better then they think, people are afraid to be alone the thought of being alone does something to them this is sad.
I know someone that moved into her own place she grew up with a houseful so you would think she would welcome the alone time, she said she would be home with her son she would do this do that, then she says to herself now what? I said huh, she said she did not know what to do with herself, I said talk to your son, think about your life, enjoy your home, but she could not do it, she end up spending more time at her moms then she did in her own home. the thought of being alone is too much for some people to handle.
Thank you so much for sharing.
@shibham (16977)
• India
16 Sep 09
yes kitty. u are 100% right. no one can know us better than ourselves. say u have comitted something unfarable task. all are ignorant about this matter except u. here say me that how a person can judge you unless he is completly alart to you. so you are the first person who knows yourself much.take care.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hello my friend
I use to to guilty of telling people this,I was young and really needed a clue this to me is impossible there are so many way we do things amazing ways we get to know others, I love it, I like to watch people no matter how long I knew you I will observe even when you doing doing nothing but thinking, I say to myself if only I can jump in their head just to get a idea of how their mind works, I would love this but that will not happen, so observing give me a good idea, but there is so much I will never really know.
Thank you my friend.
@doormouse (4599)
•
15 Sep 09
no one knows me better than me,my partner likes to think he does but in reality he doesn't,especially after what i did a few weeks ago,he never thought i'd ever do that
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello doormouse
I think we all have been there, I know you better than you know yourself, if I knew now what I thought I knew then those words would have never passed my lips, ever this is something I feel we would like to believe but actually its impossible to say the least.
Thank you, come back and share if you like
@akuler (3531)
• Malaysia
15 Sep 09
Hi kitty,
I think no one know better about myself then me. I know myself in and out. Others might know my outside behavior but now one know what I have inside.
But I think at certain level, others will know us better then ourselves especially when it come to egos or something that we do wrongly. That's why we still need someone advise on certain matters.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello my friend
Great point, although having outside influence does help us, but its not like we don't know these things we may not know what to call them but we know how we are, like I know someone who is selfish when I tell her this she says give me an example of something I have done that makes you say this, so yes this is a great point my friend thanks, I find it hard to believe she was not aware but then again some people really do not have a clue I know my ways I am very sensitive too sensitive this I know, I have a big heart always putting other needs before my own, not a good trait, I have been told many times I wear my heart on my sleeve I love this saying although this could be a bad thing as well, my daughter tells me all the time mom you are too nice you need to toughen up, people take advantage of you, so in some instances I tend to use the word NO a little easier than I had before, sometimes its o.k to tweak a few things every now and then, in my case I had too, still sensitive and all those things but these are the things that make me the woman I am.
Thank you for sharing my friend.
@cherrc (661)
• Philippines
16 Sep 09
it is still yourself. however, people are around us to be our reflections. we cannot expect ourselves to be aware of our innerself at all times. we may tend to overdo things so people like family, friends or the crowd will be there to remind us. being introvert and extrovert to get the balance. :)
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hello cherrc
I believe time help us to be more aware of these things, how often do you really need to be told you are doing too much or too little of something I try to be conscious of everything that I do, younger people fine, but adults I don't see why someone needs to remind you of your behavior, don't get me wrong I see this all the time, but it frustrates me, people do really stupid things for no reason and I have to point it out, after a time it becomes redundant and I say enough is enough.
My daughter tell me I am too nice, well in all reality this is her opinion, but I agree, should I go around being nasty to people NO, but I will be careful with my heart because people take kindness as a weakness sad but true,there is always room for improvement does not say that person knows me better.
Thank you so much for sharing.
@satyabs15 (119)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hi kitty,
It is really a great discussiont to have. I too agree your comments. Really no one know about oneself without haveing some close relationship. Eventhough there isa good relationship it is not sure that that person know everthing about him.
So i think it is very difficult to justify others.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hello my friend
And we must also remember people only show you what they want you to see, some not all it is impossible to get into someones mind, they may let you see some of what goes on in their but thats it, my mind is going constantly there is not enough time in the world for me to share everything with someone, I find it hard to keep up with myself lol.
Thank you for sharing.
@calai618 (1773)
• Philippines
16 Sep 09
Honestly? I think there's really no one. Even my parents still don't know much about me. i dont really have a bestfriend so there's no one I can share all my thoughts and experiences with. I have a couple of close friends but still none of them know me better thatn I know myself. Maybe it's because I am a naturally exclusive person. I don't feel comfortable showing the whole of me to anybody and there are really a lot of things that I refuse to share or divulge to anyone.
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
16 Sep 09
Hello my friend
And that is fine, when I was coming up even a part of my adult like I thought I was suppose to share everything with people, lol I wanted them to know me, so I felt I had to share, NOT, there are somethings people do not need to know, I believe our parents know a great deal about us, their are still alot of things they do not know, don't get me wron some people tell their parents everything, that is great for them, there are some things I will not share, and things I don't want my daughter to share with me, to each his own.
Thank you so much.
@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
22 Sep 09
I agree with YOU kitty, there's no way for anybody to know me better than I know myself! Not unless they live within my own mind and that's not how it is. I wouldn't argue the point with your brother because he believes it to be one way and you believe it to be another and it's ok to disagree on such issues but I have to say, no way, nobody can know me better than I know me because it's ME MYSELF AND I and nobody else!! LOL
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
24 Sep 09
Hello my friend
I like that Me,Myself,I this is true, you have to really be able to get into someones head in order to really know them, I have yet to know someone that much, I know peoples ways I know their mannerism that about it, really cool when you a person so well you what what they will do before they do it, my EX use to hate that lol
Thank you my friend.
@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
15 Sep 09
I know people sometimes say they know you better than you do but I think that is a form of intimidation.
I don't think this is easy to be true because no one can know what you think all the time.
People might try to use this if they know you well but I doubt it can really be perfectly true.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello Bluepatch
I think when people say this they are talking about what you show them, your behavior you may be around a person so much you get an idea of what makes them tick, these things are different then actually knowing someone, to get inside someone head is impossible, sometimes I say to myself I know what my grandson will do, he always amazes me, I use to feel bad but I quickly realized this is impossible as young as 7 you would think it would be easy to actually know them NOT,I believe that once our brain is developed we become unique,that makes us one of a kind.
"the mind is a terrible thing to waste" this saying is truer to me now then when I first heard it years ago.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
21 Sep 09
i have 2 kids, only 2 people that know me better then myself would you believe that? out of 5 kids, and a very large family and years of groups of friends, they are the only ones. i atribute that to the fact maybe because they are both my virgo's? i have went to do things that they have said to me "now mom, i know you wont like how this turns out, because i know you to well." and many times they have been so right. to the rest of the world im strange, but they can always explain me and/or always get me
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
21 Sep 09
well it helps that they are my 2 virgos and im a virgo 2 !! we are some strange ones.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
21 Sep 09
Hello my friend
Well this is true, there could be a good chance that you do actually know each other inside and out, most virgos seem to be alot alike, its crazy because me and my daughter both seem to attract virgo men 1 was amazing but we were young so it did not work, the other I don't know what planet he came from but it was not earth I use to say to him when is your birthday, are you "sure" no way, never met anyone like him in my life, total opposite of anything or anyone I ever met, glad he is finally out of my life for good, yuk.
Thank you my friend.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
21 Sep 09
Hello my friend
I like this its funny my daughter works my nerve we are two different virgos she is mean I am nice, I know my daughter ways but can't say for a second I know her better, no way, it would be easy for people to say they know me I am a open book, but people find me strange as well, the only reason I can see is because I am honest and when I say things people look at me like I can't believe she just said that, oh well, you know its true so why should it surprise you, so people don't get me, but I am really easy honestly, my grandson who is 7 I think I think I know him so well, nope he always do the opposite of what I think he is going to do, its funny to know someone you have to really get into their head, I know his ways and things of this nature but lets say my daughter says something I say to myself he will not do that, always wrong I say dangit I give up lol
Thank you.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
15 Sep 09
Hello my friend
I can honestly say I know no one better than they know themselves, not even my daughter, I sometimes think I know my grandson he is constantly proving me wrong and he is 7, I think this is impossible This is my take I honestly thought I may have a chance to really get into his head, this little boy is very unpredictable I give up on trying to figure him out, I know what he like, don't like all these good things thats pretty much it.
Thank you my friend
@amyson (3498)
• Philippines
5 Oct 09
well,i appreciate my friend who share pieces of advice in me.well there are people that very confident to their self often times they didnt ask someone to help him out.but some people ask for help and advice of other people matters.it depends on the situation.some situation that we can do it ourselves but sometimes views of other people really helps us.it is you that can decide if it is a good or not advice,whether it helps you or not.we still the one to decide for our good.
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
5 Oct 09
Hello my friend
Exactly, I love advice from others but the end result will still end with my decision, but welcome all words from anyone, just don't tell me what you think I should do advise me, I will weigh my options and go from there.
Thank you my friend.