Do you think it is fair to have interpreter in every beauty contest?
By neelianoscet
@neelianoscet (9615)
Philippines
September 20, 2009 5:58am CST
I observe and seen a lot of beauty contest ranging from Ms. Universe, Ms. World, Ms, International, Ms. Earth and other beauty title pageant. The organizer and participants have undergo a lot of screening, searches and many rehearsal just to make the beauty events special and grandiose. However, I notice that a lot of participants, especially from Latin Americas have never ever try to learn to speak English when it is known they have been practicing for the different strategies starting from proper posture, winning look and smiles, building talents,from best bathing suits to gown, and from final interview. It is known that their sponsored countries have ever gives funds to their beauty contestant to practice lasting from more than 1 year. I just wonder,Why do they never includes from their long preparation to learn to practice speaking English from Non-English speaking countries?
[b]It is fair to have interpreter when they replies to questions from panelist judge as if they are speaking on their local dialects?
Do you think it is fair from other countries beauty contestant who make a hard effort to learn English from their own efforts where the other participants never ever perspire to learn the English languages? [/b]
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17 responses
@roniroxas (10560)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
for me it is fair to have an interpreter in a beauty contest as long as the person who will interpret is legal and really is a person who knows the language very well. what is not fair is when you can not join a pageant or a beauty contest just because you dont know how to speak english. if you know the actress model melanie marquez, when she was the representative of the Philippines in the Ms. World pageant she has an interpreter for she is not good on speaking the english language. but from then on she studied and now can speak quiet good.
@roniroxas (10560)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
yes she is a living proof that if one persist to learn to speak english they could do, but during the pageant she can not communicate without any interpreter, so i think it is fair. one of our fellow Filipino joined the pageant even she does not know how to speak english and nothing stopped her to show the world than any woman can join a beauty pageant even not knowing how to speak english.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
Yeah, that is true as long as the interpreter never add additional statement to make it appear as the beauty contestant replies is excellent when in fact her replies is not quite extra-ordinary responses but only the average type. I hate to admit but I am really annoy that a certain countries always land as the winner when their preparation for this contest is maximum of one year. I am really curious is they really never try hard to learn English to be quite fair in other contestant. Yeah, I know Melanie, our kababayan,but now she is a living proof if one persist to learn to speak English they could do it too.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
yeah, that is true you do need to learn to be an expert in English languages in order to be a champ or crown but a true epitome of beauty is a combination of beauty and brains. Ability to communicate using the international languages is an added advantages aside from at walking abilities.
@kun2349 (23381)
• Singapore
20 Sep 09
Well well, that's something which is hard to control or have a say in it.. Because some countries are really poor in english, or they dun speak english at all!!
However, with an interpreter, there tend to have some advantages and disadvantages during such competitions.. Because translation cant be done word for word, as it will distort the overall meaning of their replies.. Thus with every rephrasing, it brings a whole new meaning and twist to it, thus giving it some benefit or maybe spoiling chances too.. hehe ^_^
THough some contestants do make an effort to learn english, but when they are not speaking it correctly, they might as well depend on interpreter instead.. lol =D
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
Yeah, that is a fact but it does not really a good excuses to elude from learning to speak English when long preparation have been made by most beauty pageant candidates to qualified for the big events. When they have time too, must learn to includes in their training to study the basic English in a manner that in every form of interaction it would be uneasy to always depend on an interpreter to always speak on their behalf is like a handicapped. It is not very cruel things to do if the candidates undergo English communication studies and not only focus on modeling, which it says is a discipline itself.
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@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
22 Sep 09
yap, that is true, but it would be more exciting to watch the beauty pageant candidates speak the English languages even if it is not their native languages. It add zest and thrill to the events.
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@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
22 Sep 09
If the competition is representative of one country's population,then,no,an interpreter should not be necessary,as All competitors should be fluent in the language of that country.(Unless one of the competitors was Deaf..) If the competition is at an international level,with competitors from all over the world,then It may be helpful to have interpreters available,as English might not be a Language the contestants would be schooled in...In my Job,I work with some Eastern European Women,and I rarely if ever hear them speak English! Maybe they understand enough to do their Job,but they don't seem to have any desire to improve their grasp of English by talking to Locals at work..During Breaks,they socialise together in their own Language...It depends on the competition how much reliance should be put on their English Skills..The competitors could be highly intelligent,Well qualified people able to speak other languages fluently,but having poor spoken English..if the competition is about looks,appearance,Or even skills as an entertainer,not being able to express that in perfect English shouldn't be a disadvantage,as long as the talent was evident..
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
22 Sep 09
Yeah, it really depend on the types of competition and since it is a beauty contest a high command of the English languages is not a requirements but more focus on the beauty, talents and charisma. Maybe, if it is an IQ test, then the ability to comprehend and talk in English is an added advantages knowing the basic simple communication could elevate beauty as not just being gorgeous but also have quick wit intelligence able to replies on answer and question portion based on her common sense.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Sep 09
The organizer should have a demerit system whereby all contestants should be able to understand and converse in English failing which certain points will be taken off from their marks. Since this is an international event every contestants should learn to speak this language to qualify for the final round. I don't fancy those that uses interpreter to communicate to the questions asked.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
Yeah, that is very true as I notice other participants learn to study English even it is not their native languages. I learn that many beauty contestant takes almost more than 1 year with their rehearsal from their talent coordinator. That is why it easy for them to won the contest as they have interpreter. Unlike in my country where the contestant have learn to speak and write English without the presence of interpreter during the contest. I think it is unfair and it have been too long that participants join contest never ever try to learn other languages aside form their own languages.
@VANILLAREY (1470)
• India
21 Sep 09
This is a beauty contest not an intelligence contest. Why should everyone know English in particular. There are many other beautiful languages and technically correct languages. Why not other languages like Chinese, Spanish? Why not the judges learn other languages? If are to be judges they should also be qualified for judging every contestant as per the contestants beauty, language, culture and traditions.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Sep 09
VANILLAREY, I appreciate your views. since English is the most common international language I should think that every contestant should at least know this language. There are no short of beautiful girls in this universe but the one that excel are those with beauty and brain. I feel English language is a superior language and everyone should be able to converse in this language to proof that they are multi lingual and shows they are highly intelligent when they can command few languages.
@bjcyrix (6901)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
Yeah, I do think it is fair to have interpreters in beauty contests. I would actually consider it unfair if the contestants are forced to just speak English when they cant. Like the description of the contest is, it is a beauty contest. Though the contest does also look into the personality and the intelligence of the contestants, the deciding factor would be the physical aspect of the contestants.
Also, true beauty does include the ability of being able to speak in different language but to speak in one language should not be forced upon the contestants when it is a Miss "World", "International", "Earth", or "Universe". There are a lot of different people, culture and languages out there, not only English. Even if English is the language that is understood by most people in the world doesnt mean its the only language there is.
Anyway, in the pageants, I think the contestants have the choice of asking for an interpreter if they wanted to or if they wish to try and speak in English with the risk of not being able to fully express what they really mean. At least with the help of the interpreter, they can be articulate using their native tongue and be successful in saying what they really mean.
That's just what I think anyway.^_^
@bjcyrix (6901)
• Philippines
27 Sep 09
yeah, there is that issue that maybe the interpreter is the one answering the question and what he/she said is actually very far from what the contestant has said. But the interpreter is also for the benefit of those viewers and judges who might not understand the language and there is also the chance that there are judges in the panel who can understand the language of the contestant. So it will be really obvious if the interpreter answered in his/her own. That will even make the contestant look bad.
Wow, are there really those who train girls from birth to be the next Ms. Universe?? I have not heard that before. But yeah, I do agree with you that these girls would probably be taught the universal language also.
@bjcyrix (6901)
• Philippines
4 Jan 10
Woah, that's a lot of research you've put into this. From reading your comment I got the mental image of a machine that manufactures almost perfect women that are designed to internationally compete in those beauty contests. It should be noted that they do take this industry seriously and maybe they have their reasons why they dont include international languages in their training. Maybe it adds to the appeal when they are heard speaking in their native tongue. Whatever the reason may be, only they could know.LOL
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
It is fair if the interpreter correctly interpret the replies of the beauty contestant and not added additional words to make it appear as the respondents replies the question is remarkable. of, course it is unfair to force a non speaking countries to speak English if they have no knowledge of it. But, it is better later on they learn to study English.
It would be better to hear all the contestant know to speak even the English languages would be amazing feat. Thus, as the judge of the contest we could fairly determine the winner and the runner up as they speak and hear the questions in English. I really wonder for too long that their are joining contest and yet they have never try hard to learn basic English languages. Some countries train their future ms. universe starting with the pre-schooler period to formal modeling and they should integrate also with their training to teach the prospective beauty winner the knowledge of speaking English.
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@flower21 (765)
• Philippines
22 Sep 09
I am in between if the title require participants from different countries, then interpreter is needed so that the other candidates would not be left behind by english speaking competitor. as long as they are beautiful and smart. it is alright and not really a problem as it is a beauty contest not an IQ contest.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
22 Sep 09
Yeah, that would be good in order for other non speaking English participants to replies on questions and answer it with confidence without worrying to speak fluent English when have no enough knowledge of the languages. But, it also good to hear them speak a few basic English words as it basically appears more impressive to the judges as well as to the audiences.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
21 Sep 09
I was going to respond with the fact that having an interpreter is fair enough but after giving it a bit more thought I decided that a lot of meaning is lost during translation and the result can distort what was actually said so to avoid that it would be wiser for all the contestants to speak the one language being English, it simplifies the situation somewhat too.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
Yeah, that is true if a lot of listeners and judges depends on each contestant interpreter it is a mix of confusion. We could not really assure that the interpreter conveys the replies with the same expression made by the candidates and never changes the context implies by the contestant.
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@sblossom (2168)
•
21 Sep 09
There are many things in the world are not fair, but we can not change it. English became strong language. It’s the fact we can not change.
Not only the beauty should learn English very hard, people in other fields also need to study English very hard then to compete with English native speakers.
As I said we cannot change it. So we better save our time to complain the unfair things and use our precious time to study English and increase our competitive abilities in the world.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
Yeah, English is an international languages and whether we like it or not. It is a part of the society and need to learn to speak English to serves as a bridges in fixing the misunderstanding in terms of communication barriers between English speakers and non-English speakers in order to make a successful interaction between the two parties.
@babyfiona08 (652)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
I love watching beauty pageants and I have the same observations too. I even tell my brother with me watching that it's not fair to have those interpreters around. I think, the pageant organizer must only allow those English speaking candidates to join. Or when a non-English country would really want their candidate to be in, she must learn the language first. Like in the Miss. Universe pageant, it is a big title and I think the winner must really know how to speak English not having the need of an interpreter. It is a major title and I think, the English language is worth earning for.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
yeah, that is true some beauty pageant are minor title and not the coveted crown like ms. Universe where aside from beauty. Some factors are requirements in the selection of the final winners by the judges citing criteria like beauty, intelligence, well mannered and cultured. The big factors for winning the title is having an intelligent replies with a coherent substances in replying to respective judges questions.
@lindiebiz (1006)
• Canada
21 Sep 09
It would be fair if all countries could speak english but some of them would not be able to speak english very well within the time period they are supposed to learn
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
Yeah, it is good to have all beauty contestant learn some basic English languages and for a long time this kind of beauty pageant have exist without any modification. I do hope that organizer could introduce during rehearsals/training to let the participants study to learn English is an added advantages breaking the barriers between non English speakers.
@aprilnaz (8)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
I think it is fair to have interpreters in Beauty Contests because they help the contestants convey their ideas to the world. It would be unfair however if all contestants are required to learn English so that they can be understood. This puts them in a grave disadvantage because the native speakers of English can easily impress the judges with their ideas just because they have mastered the language. Besides, if everybody is required to speak English in every beauty contest, it can be a cause for one country to discriminate another. Who knows, if this happens, one beautiful face might again be the cause of the launching of a thousand ships.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
That is nice if the interpreter exactly translate the contestant replies with exact meaning as she was trying to convey the exact messages without adding some words which distort the context of the originality of the replies. The most important factors to won the title aside from beauty is the ability of each candidates to replies with intelligence wit and a lot of common sense, carefully analyzing each question being ask of her by each panelist judges.
@nijolechu (1842)
• Canada
21 Sep 09
I think it would be beneficial as a requirement for all contestants to learn English before they can compete in a beauty contest. It would be only fair so everyone can converse in a Universal language. I think it would be a handicap and they won and they would need a translator to go with them to all different locations.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
Yeah it is a good thing for each beauty pageant organizer to add modification to their ruling and standard term to implies to all prospective candidates to learn to study English as a discipline and a study itself. Aside, from the long training and rehearsal such as modeling, talents practices, right bathing suit and evening gown rehearsals, proper posture and winning smiles require long dedication and efforts. Adding an efforts to integrate to learn the basic English communication is an added bonus, aside from having beauty.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
That really also depends on the manner of the replies from the candidates and the interpreter translation. Some suggest that although English is an international languages it should not be a mandatory for each non-English speaking countries to learn to speak English. But, I think this types of beauty pageant have been existing for quite a long years. I think it is now a time for organizers to integrate in the long time training/rehearsal to let candidates learn to study English is a discipline itself and so is the same things with modeling.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
Yeah, I deeply appreciate other non-English speaking countries candidates who make an effort to learn to study and speak English is and added advantages during the pageant selection. It only show that they try hard and never make a language barriers as an excuses to escape learning some basic English words.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
Yeah, as I learn that in some countries they train their children to becomes a potential beauty contestant winner starting from their childhood and they treat it like a serious business acclaiming world title. And, when the children reach the proper age they are train again to become prospective winner of beauty contestant using different techniques and that is the reason I also wonder they never put an effort to learn English. For most of the time, they have interpreter to depend on. I do believe they would not be lazy to begin to learn English like many Mylotters do here learning to write English despite it is not their Native languages.
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
i don't see any thing wrong with it. i think it is very necessary specially if you have difficulty to speak in english as it is not your first language. i think interpreter were instructed only to translate it as close as to the original answer and not to change or alter the answer to make it sound better.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
That is better if the contestant have a hard time learning speaking English and as long as the interpretation is the same with the contestant replies it hardly makes a difference. But, if they know to speak English, it is better for them to try to use it during the beauty pageant.
@amyson (3498)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
no for my opinion they should learn and how to speak English since English is an international language.one reason if they speak to their own language they are much more known to answer the questions very good because they used to speak in that language.i just wanna be fair to other countries that learn English even though their national language is not English speaking countries.for me it is very unfair to have a interpreter they must learn and how to speak in English language since this is the international language.happy mylooting.
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
20 Sep 09
That is better if the beauty contestants are encourages by their own manager prior to joining to study English speaking. As I know many potential beauty contestant in other countries are being train to becomes Ms.Universe since their early childhood up to their adulthood. It is really an improvement to the beauty contestant rules to implement new policies which encourages participant to speak English despite it is not their own native languages.