Obama Lies about Health Care Requirements once again.

Wow tell us how you really think. Sorry I may have severely disliked the Bush dynasty, but I would never disrespect a president and call him/her names like that. Oh and Bush never lied? WMD?? Get a grip, the health insurance arguement has been going on since Roosevelt postpone, postpone, yeah right! My brother a mechanic, does not have any insurance and I want to slap the next person who tells me just go to the ER and he will not have to pay. THOSE people are delusional and LIARS. My son was 20 and on his own, no longer on our healthcare, went to the ER and had very little money, and he was hounded for years beause he did have a job, he had to pay it off over the years.

As you say, auto insurance is only necessary if you own a car. And, if you own your own car without a lien, most states require only that you carry third party coverage - in case you hit someone else, cause damage or injury to another person. No one forces you to insure your own car against damage. Maybe I could get a health care insurance that pays out only if you can prove you got that cold from me. See, here's where the whole auto insurance comparison starts to fall apart. I agree that if the IRS collects it, it's a tax. Even if it is a fine, it's a fine on a tax obligation. The IRS is not authorized to sell insurance or impose fines on any behavior other than those relating to taxes. Worse than it being a tax, the health care plan calls for the IRS to release all of your tax and financial records to the Health Care Commissioner. I have all sorts of problems with this in regards to legality, third party disclosure, invasion of privacy and a certain bulldog tenacity of this administration about getting more money out of more people to give to other people.

I drive and have auto insurance. My son drives and he has auto insurance. My disabled daughter does not drive and she doesn't have insurance. Is Obama really that stupid? Nevermind, I just remember the 57 states. I wonder if he ever got to the last seven of them!

In my opinion with that, my friend is that Obama, is not a racist. As he said that the health reform bill is not that way. I think republican says anything to down fall the good president. Democrats congressmen and senators is not idiot for not knowing the constitution and President Obama, is not also an idiot because he is a good lawyer I think? His opponent likely give bad impression to bills to discredit the President. You should dialogue first to the president and listen to his sides before saying something that is eat by dog. He is open for dialogue, instead going to the street shout out anything that is not acceptable to the person. Just ask his permission to have a dialogue and listen what his sides and express also your grievances about the bills... What you feel they say, what you said back unto you? Don't be like that, my friend.

So now he is confusing his own lies, because I thought he said he wouldn't tax the common people but if his health care has a tax for not getting it isn't that him lying about taxes as well, so I guess which lie is he making at that moment?

Hmmmm....you and the others sound a bit frustrated and sorta meanish!! I bet not many inhere voted for Obama! Hee,hee.... But for Heaven's sakes, dont insult the guy. America is the first world and is respected, and it would do a lot not to be so crude! I am sure, perhaps I dont have any right coz it's your President, and probably been ripped off or feel that way with the health insurance matter, but that guy hasn't implemented a thing yet, neither is any of the other previous Presidents..........!! This is a huge matter and this Barack, at least seems to trying to bell the cat, so it seems. I have been observing that, these days things dont get 'solved' without collateral damage. The 'sharks' who feed on your health insurance seems to be a mighty thorny problem and would be difficult to rein in as a lot of money is involved and the American model does believe in the money or nothing policy ( if anything else is suggested - the vulgar word, ' socialist' crops up! ). But somewhere in this recession, we have to give in for a while ( my opinion ) and try the government subsidised model...if that exsists, I mean! When the money begins to flow again, then why not let the money do the talking?

Good for you! You certainly do not mince your words! If it's not a tax, is it a fine? A fine without due process? ....I call it extortion of the worst kind!

When I heard that statement, . . . "everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance." it is obvious that the statement means people who actually drive autos. We certainly do get fined if we are caught in an automobile accident without it.

[b]Right you are, as always, Ted. Sorry to sound like the amen corner, here, so I'll just add this: how is he going to get away with this one?? I mean, only the dumbest of the Koolaid drinkers are too stupid to know he's lying on that one! It really does boggle the mind. Was it you who called him a pathological liar? I doubted it at the time, thinking, no, he knows what he's about...but now...I have to wonder. He can't think anyone will take him seriously! Can he? This is just surreal. This just exposes how pathetically inept & unqualified he is to hold the office. Maggiepie "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?"[/b]

I just don't understand what you are trying to say here "But the major point isn't about whether or not a fine for not buying medical insurance isn't the real lie here. " This is a triple negative sentence? Huh? I don't understand what you are trying to write. And I'm not even saying Obama is a liar here. But your argument(which I am not sure I understand, due to your poor wording, and use of English in the aforementioned statement) loses credibility when you go from liar to "racist, bigot, and a person who despises the US Constitution." You need to support this statement. Otherwise it is an opinion, and opinions are, in their nature, biased, meaning you are biased, and therefore, it leads to question everything else you are saying.

I'm sure you noticed Obama went to every network but FOX. I would guess it's because he didn't want any questions he didn't think he could handle. It's easy to lie when the people you're lying to believe as you believe, or want to believe you. How much negative press does Obama get from these guys? Some day they'll find Obama in the middle of the Potomac River because he believed the media, that he can walk on water. He also believes, thanks to the media, that he can get away with lying. I hope America isn't buying it.

If was a FINE you could go to court and fight it, just like any other FINE one receives (usually in the form of a ticket). Since the IRS will be collecting it and you can't fight it, it is a TAX. Didn't we have a "thing" over "taxation without representation" a little over 200 years ago?

Love him or hate him it isn't fair that he wants to fine or penalize us for not being able to afford health insurance. There are many Americans like me who the government says make to much for healthcare help but to little to afford to cover the 300 plus a month for healthcare for our families! Not that I don't desparately want it... I simply can't afford it. I don't see his healthcare plan working out as beneficial to us anyways because we all know how well socialized medicine worked out for oh say Russia. There was a doctor in NY who had an idea to cover people medically without insurance and still make himself money in the process. 75 bucks a month and the family got unlimited doctor visits.... The dem's told him he could not do that because it was illegal and short changing the ins. companies. I could come up with 75 bucks but 300 or whatever this tax, fine, whatever they end up calling it it completely without costs. And to the person who said for someone to get another job... Well with the job market as great as it is now yeah we can all afford to leave a job to run out and get one with ins. In this economy and job market people have to take what they can get! Food and shelter are more important than other things though they may be necessary!

requiring you to buy health insurance IS NOT a tax....I mean, doesn't government taxes usually end up in some government's hands.... you buy health insurance, where does the money go to? an insurance company.....sorry, no tax. the fine for not having insurance is not a tax, it's a penalty, for not playing by the rules. if you get stopped for speeding and get a ticket, do you consider your fine a tax also? it's the collection bit of it all that is causing the confusing, probably because they started out with the objective of raising money for their new healthcare program instead of actually addressing a criminal activity that they would like to stop....but well, I don't care if you are talking about republicans or democrats the current administration or the old, they all seem to get easily confused about such things, they fine and tax a whole lot of non-criminal activity with the main motivation of just raising more money to blow.

Glad to see you're still kicking around the place and setting other people's moods on fire with your objective and constructive cricticism over the current american democratic administration in power. The so called "saviour" isn't that sweet of a man after all...let 'em blind followers of Doh' 'Bama keep learning the actual facts.

Great post, I agree.

A powerfuk statement I so strongly agree to! Obamo should stop talking and do something already!

Having a public option is truly a blessing. Being a Canadian i have witnessed what a good health care system could do and i really think additional taxation is nothing if it means a manageable system for those who cant afford private health care. i do agree that Obama is not telling the full truth about how this system would be funded but the adjectives you used to describe him are a bit extremist. pardon my oxymoron.