When I get Older

@p1kef1sh (45681)
September 21, 2009 2:49pm CST
How will I live? In the UK there is no set retirement age, but people commonly do retire at 60 or 65. They then hopefully receive an income from their private pensions and at age 65 (for men, 60 for women) a state pension too. Increasingly though, private pensions are not generating the income expected of them; and several have failed entirely leaving people with little or nothing. How will you fund your old age - or will you still be working when you're 90?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Sep 09
I have a pension from my last employer that I can start collecting at 55. The longer I wait, the larger the monthly amount will be. Depending on age, Social Security starts at age 65 or somewhat older. I think I'll be somewhere between 66 and 67 before I can start collecting. Then I have my 401k and IRA accounts. Those are retirement savings accounts, the first through my employers, and the latter through my own savings. They are tax deferred. I didn't have to pay taxes on the money I put into them or the matching funds my employers put into the 401k accounts. Taxes will happen when I start withdrawing funds, which I can do starting at age 59 1/2. Withdrawals are required starting at age 70. I'm fairly comfortable with how my money in those accounts has been invested.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Sep 09
I'm moving to Dawn's house........... Hee Hee
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Sep 09
Don't give me choices Dawn. I'll take the one that suits you best. Soundproofed against my snores would be best. Plus I guess that Irish will get the bed so maybe a room with a comfy floor.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Sep 09
You want the room with the view or the one by the kitchen?
@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Sep 09
This is a totally irresponsible thing to be saying on my part, but I haven't started to think that far ahead yet! I'm too caught up with trying to re-create a foundation NOW rather than focusing on 30 years from now. I do have a superannuation fund, but it's not much at the moment and I haven't added a dime to it in the last 5 years. When I get back to Australia, this will definitely be an area I'll put more effort into as I sure as heck don't wish to be working in my 80's and beyond if I can help it!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Sep 09
I DID have a strategy in place mate, but other unfortunate things happened and I lost the ability to maintain that focus. I agree that I need to be taking it seriously, I just need to get to a base level first before I can do so again. I'll be ever mindful of the bar stewards!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Sep 09
In all seriousness you should look into it. Just mind which of the thieving bar stewards you invest in!
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@littleowl (7157)
22 Sep 09
Hi p1ke, Good question! How will I live later in life..probably the way I am at the moment and just have a state pension..depends on how bad the economy gets as to how much that will be...still with the new law out I won't get that til I'm 66yrs old so have a way to go yet! lol Hugs LoLo
@littleowl (7157)
26 Sep 09
Oh that sounds awful, you may have to sell your house to fund your future, I sincerley hope you didn't mean that though guess a lot of people must think along those lines..hugs LoLo
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
It is worrying LoLo. We own our house. But if things continue the ay that they are we may end up having to sell it just to fund our old age. Thankfully we will both get pensions at 60/65.
@tdemex (3540)
• United States
21 Sep 09
Well I moved down to Mexico to help! Plus I have a gal and family here at the house! I just retired with only Social Security (it's the USA common pension) I will get $1270 USD a month and we can live on that not great but get by! I found a part time job teaching English to Executives down here and that's another $400 plus we opened a family store and it should well! So I think I'll enjoy this for my remaining years! But other opportunities may open! Never know! tdemex
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
21 Sep 09
You sound pretty organised there. The main thing is to be happy.
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• United States
21 Sep 09
Well, seeing how I work for myself, I seriously doubt that I am going to have a pension plan to fall back on so, I hope that I can still do what I am doing now when I am 90.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Sep 09
You'll always have burlesque to fall back on Diddly. Don't fret!
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• United States
21 Sep 09
Heeeeeee! Yeah, Me in burlesque, I can soooo see me doing that at 90!
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
21 Sep 09
Oh me too! You'll be one of the few women on earth that can swing boob tassels at ankle height whilst standing upright! LMAO
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
24 Sep 09
Hi plkeflsh, well no matter how frugal I am it seems that this is going to be a huge worry as I don't think those frozen pensions are about to pay much out and doubt very much that the state pension will still be in play at all. Over here you see the very old still working their lands as they still need to provide their own oil even if the mill prices are too low to bother selling it that year, so I hope I won't have to be up an olive tree in my 80's as these sturdy folks are. I suppose the last resort if things become too difficult will be to marry for money.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
25 Sep 09
The Boss married for money. In fact she said to me: 'When we met I thought that you were rich". I replied "I was"!!!
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
25 Sep 09
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@pumpkinjam (8788)
• United Kingdom
26 Sep 09
As I am only 28, it's not something to which I give much thought. I guess I should do though. I pay into a pension scheme through my work but that's not much. I am hoping to find a better job which pays enough to be able to save a little every month. I suppose that's the recommended option but of course, for those who barely have enough to live on now, saving just isn't an option. I don't know what other options there would be - if any.
• United Kingdom
27 Sep 09
I intend to stay in the public sector and now I have more of an incentive!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
26 Sep 09
Pension wise you should stay in the public sector Pumpkin. Currently you pay a relatively small contribution in exchange for which you will get a better than average return in 37 years time!
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
28 Sep 09
Here in Australia, the retiring age is around 65. Then you either live on your superannuation, which is compulsory or you receive a gov't pension. Super has only been compulsory for about 25 years and when it was first introduced, my boss did not pay. While it was compulsory, there was nothing in force to MAKE the employer pay. I went to work for these same people several years later and again, they tried to cheat me with super. I put them in to the taxation office and they had to pay me....and all the other staff they had duped over the years but it only went back for a few years. Super is paid as a percentage of your earnings and it has been increasing over the years. When I was working it was first at 2% then it increased to 7%. It's now over 10% but low income earners are way behind the 8 ball. Mine is sitting in my super fund and it is diminishing each year now with admin fees. I can't get it till I'm 65. There will be nothing left by then. Because of my advanced age (?) and the fact that I live in a remote area, I'm not required to work, so I receive a gov't allowance which is barely enough to live on. I'm lucky that I have another means of income that does not affect my payments. This will increase by about 12% when I reach retiring age but I will also get a rebate on my rates, my driving license and my car rego and some medical treatments. I already am eligible for a small rebate on my phone and electricity. So, when will you be moving over here?
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
28 Sep 09
It's my birthday on Sunday so it'll be exactly 98 years till I get a full pension. I was gonna say something else but I've forgotten it. Senility???? Don't you dare!
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
28 Sep 09
How did that bloody 9 get there? And why didn't I notice it before? Carp!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Sep 09
I'm surprised that the outback isn't stuffed to the gunnals! I get an occupational pension when I am 60 - only 8.5 years left to wait!
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@stephcjh (38473)
• United States
24 Sep 09
I am not sure how we are going to fund our old age either. Soscial Security may not be around by then and it does not pay a whole lot anyway. I hope to have my bills paid off by then though.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
22 Sep 09
This is a big fear for me pike. I really hope that I stay as healthy as I am right now because I don't know how I could survive without working. I am in the states and our social security is pretty much screwed. I am on my own and I just have to work. I have to rely on myself so I hope I'll always be able to until the day I die. I really honestly don't want to be around as an old person that is unable to work.....I really can't imagine me handling well needing help from others. Hope it never happens that way.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
22 Sep 09
yep....it is horrible. Seems we could learn a lot from other countries when it comes to things like this.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
Over here they are thinking of making occupational pensions law Sid. So everyone will have something when they retire. I am often amazed at the US - so many good things, but when it comes to looking after the poorest in society they fall flat.
@sweetie1026 (1718)
• Philippines
22 Sep 09
Lucky for you who are in the UK, the state gives you pension. Here in my country, we only get our private pension and only a 20% deduction for all senior citizens.The retirement age hehre is 65 but most employees get to retire at age 60 that is because they still want to enjoy their pension, while they are still able.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
Thy can't afford to pay the state pension though Sweetie. They are pushing the age at which you can qualify up. I have qualified for mine but can't draw it for another 14 years.
@Humbug25 (12540)
28 Sep 09
Hi ya p1kef1sh Well I haven't paid into my personal pension since I was working which was about 8 years ago now when my son was born so it is likely I shall be working forever, well until I pop my clogs anyway!!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
28 Sep 09
That's what we say about our daughter. It's a good job that she's enjoying herself now because once she goes to work she's shackled forever!
• Netherlands
22 Sep 09
Old Age P1key? I am Never going to get old so I suppose I will never have to worry about it!!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
You will have eligible men beating a path to your door to look after you GEL. A Goddess no less.
• Netherlands
25 Sep 09
Oh P1key!!! You really Are a smooth operator and talker aren't you??? Mmmmmmhhhhh! I Love the way you compliment me!!
@SQD444 (677)
• India
22 Sep 09
well i don want want to wait till 60 or 65 to retire.. would like to retire before that and lead a peacefull liuke there after.... i would like to earn enough to support myself after my retirement and invvest in such way that i can support myself fromthe returns i get from it ....
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
Start a successful business and then let someone else run it whilst you take a profit when you get to 55. Or win the lottery!
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
23 Sep 09
I don't know P1ke what I do know is if Life had not thrown at me what it did I would be working till I was not able to any more I loved working and still after 6 years I miss it I suppose one good thing I am finding Talents I never had lol xx
@p1kef1sh (45681)
23 Sep 09
Even if we aren't being paid we still "work" Gabs. I am sure that you have lots of talents. Being a great friend is just one of them. XXXX
@riyasam (16556)
• India
22 Sep 09
theres retirement age in india.the maximum where one can work varies from 58-65 years of age but people do work even after retirement in private firms.i am of the opinion that one should work till one is able.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
I agree to a point. But there comes a time when I think you should be able to retire and not have to work to eat.
@pillusch (1147)
• Mexico
22 Sep 09
Well, I´m fifty now, and since I am a German whos has spent the last 30 years outside Germany, I have no pension set up whatsover. So I guess I have to do something. I´m a freelance language teacher, I'm good and I'm doing well, and that gives a kind of reassurance, since I could do that until a very old age - in fact, my students come to my house, so even if I couldn't walk anymore I could still work as long as I can talk LOL. But the pension question is only to get worse, for everybody. As money will get tighter and tighter, one of the segments of our societies who will definitelt bear the brunt are the seniors. Who know, the way things are going, pension plans might get srapped altogether, families having to take care of their older ones by themselves.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
It's increasingly scary. I should be OK, but many won't be.
@bhanusb (5709)
• India
23 Sep 09
In our government service the retirement age is 58 years. In some private organizations there is no retirement age. I serve such an organization. I want to be in service till I shall be fit. But not above 75 years of age. I can't think of 90. I don't want to live depending on the mercy of others.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
23 Sep 09
I hope that you will be able to retire and enjoy a well earned rest bhanusb too.
@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
22 Sep 09
Hmm, I had a heafy IRA and but has to cash it in because life happened. I'm about done paying off my farm place and converting the basement into an appartment and already have a renter lined up. I keep CD's as a catch all and keep adding and adding to them year after year. I guess I'm looking at I can sell my place and have the cd's a probably a part time job and be okay. I'm only a spring chicken but never hurts to start planning ahead.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
I started when I was 18 and the one thing that I know is that although I am not working now; when I am 60 I will get a pension that I can live on. Not over well, but well enough.
@kutedarsu (254)
• India
22 Sep 09
This is a difficult question to answer and without knowning sum specifics about your income and expenses... however if u have a idea about savings it may help in future..
@p1kef1sh (45681)
22 Sep 09
It's a general question. How will YOU manage your old age.