How do you measure your writing success?

United States
September 25, 2009 1:30pm CST
If you are a writer, you go through ups and downs. How do you measure your success as a writer? Money? Publication numbers? Where you publish?
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@Aingealicia (1905)
• United States
26 Sep 09
I am a writer. A freelance writer. I always have my ups and downs. I cover court cases when I am asked to and self publish them. The internet is after all a writers dream. Where else can so many read your work. I measure my work by my readership and how it affects my reader. Take care, Ainge Oh spelling is not my best subject.
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• United States
26 Sep 09
I think writers are like actors in some ways. They both need their audience. There's nothing more enjoyable to a writer than having someone leave a comment saying that they enjoyed the writing! With reporting on all those legal cases, surely there's a novel in there somewhere. Good luck with your writing.
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• United States
27 Sep 09
I tend to agree that we are a lot like actors. Thank you for your comment and yes, the Court cases do help to write a story or two. Ainge
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@maezee (41988)
• United States
25 Sep 09
I consider myself to be a writer - but it's not my job, and I rarely get anything published. It's usually just me writing my own articles or editorials for small, local magazines (in my area) or me writing in my personal, private blog. There really IS no measure of success for me. "Success" in writing for me, is just.. happily being able to express myself through words. Because money and publication really aren't involved, "success" to me is just being happy with my work!
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@GardenGerty (160665)
• United States
26 Sep 09
How very well balanced your outlook is Maezee. My daughter started a blog for the same reasons, more or less. It gave her a place to express herself.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
26 Sep 09
I would have to agree. I think my biggest success isn't writing, but reading my work. Another way I measure my success is seeing all the articles that have been "stolen" from me. LOL I get emails from well wishers saying my work was plaigerized. Once I read the chopped up, automatic inserts(I hope or the people really have writing problems), I really can't take credit for anything they could have hoped to express. LOL This has been done to several of my articles. I leave a comment with a link to my article. If anyone wants to read words that go together. LOL I also have seen my work on websites I didn't know was showcasing my articles. They give proper credit and links back to my work. That's how I know I must be doing something right (write)He he.
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• United States
26 Sep 09
Getting published in "small, local magazines" is an accomplishment and sign of success. Do you ever branch out and try bigger markets? Small steps build to greater placement for your work. Most larger markets are looking for a track record. You have great potential...even if you are just doing it for the sake of being happy. It's perfect to be satisfied with what is, but I think you shouldn't hide your talent under a bushel, so to speak. Good luck with your writing!
@KATRINKA (1624)
• United States
26 Sep 09
While I would love to ultimately make a full-time living as a writer, I don't consider monetary reward as the sole criteria for measuring success. If I can move a person while they're reading something I've written, then I've been successful. If a reader has reacted emotionally to what I've written, then it means they're involved in it. That is success, in my opinion.
• United States
28 Sep 09
Writing success comes in many packages. As we all develop as writers, our goals and measures of success grow and change. Two things seem to remain, however: the need for recognition (whether through monetary reward or some other accolade) and the need for feedback or an audience. Writing is hard work, and deserves to be rewarded.
• United States
27 Sep 09
This is how I feel, too. I was never the type to keep a diary; I never wrote for myself. I always feel like I have been successful if I have a positive response to what I've written, which is why I like blogging...it's easy for people to access and enjoy, and it's easy for people to send me feedback. It doesn't cost anyone any money, just an internet connection. I think, Katrinka, you and I have the same definition of success.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
26 Sep 09
Interesting you ask this as I'm currently wondering if I should just write for the love of writing or actually hope beyond hope someone might pick up my book and read it. Which brings me to this thought when someone said they'd buy my book if it was cheaper. Would they say this to Neil Gaiman and why should I lower my price simply because I'm not him? If one considers my writing equal to Mr. Gaiman's what makes mine less the worth? Even with an unknown name.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
27 Sep 09
It was only a matter of a few cents which makes it more ridiculous.
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@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
26 Sep 09
hmmm, that's a very interesting question. I doubt I even think of myself as successful writer, and I doubt I take writing seriously. It's more like an enjoyable hobby than a job. I enjoy the process of writing. I just hate the beginning. It's always so painful to sit properly and start to write. But once started, it's ok. I think I enjoy the process of writing more than anything. I guess that is the only success factor, that I have enjoyed writing.
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• United States
26 Sep 09
You are waaaayyyy too modest, Scheng. You are a prolific writer (and, as I am learning, reader as well). You know the inside and out of the writing sites, you have so many articles, you place yourself under such (to me) impossible monthly goals, and yet you don't see the success? Maybe you are just humble. I consider you the 'writer's writer' because so many writers (well at least Momma J and me, lol) come to you for insight and answers. You are the SEO queen! Ok, I'll stop now with the praise before your head explodes like a big balloon. Even if you don't see the success, I do!
@scheng1 (24649)
• Singapore
27 Sep 09
Hi, both of you should read Write like a Maniac by Ed Lewis, I'm sure you can exceed 200 articles a month if you read this little ebook every day! http://www.scribd.com/doc/12245983/Write-Like-a-Maniac Recently I ate too much chocolate, and got minor constipation as a result. It's so irritating to have constipation! So last nite, I did some reading on constipation, and ended up with three blog posts on constipation, mostly my complaints about this stupid constipation. Guess what, last time I got a gassy stomach, and did the same thing, complaining in my blog, and that post draws in the most traffic from search engines. I wonder is that considered success in writing?
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
26 Sep 09
I heard Scheng had a problem getting through her doorway, it was all your praise. LOL GO Scheng!. I won't tell all of scheng's secrets, but she is tied up in the mornings at the computer so she can write for that day. If she doesn't finish, she is beat with a wet noodle. You can tell she loves writing in her work and in her COMMENTS on AC! I read my comments from her and just laugh. Reading what she writes makes my day!
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@Canellita (12029)
• United States
26 Sep 09
The goal of every writer is publication. Some pieces are more important than what payment you receive for them and some pieces you get paid for are of little importance. I have published articles for no payment just to get a story to the attention of readers.
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• United States
28 Sep 09
Having a story to tell is certainly often a more driving force than the monetary reward behind it, but we all need some kind of recognition, and what better way than money (at the end of the day). Being a writer is a combination of needing to feed yourself and the drive to tell a story or get a message out there to the world.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
29 Sep 09
As a freelancer I never fed myself via my writing. I always had to have some kind of a job for that. Right now I work part-time as an enrichment teacher to be able to fund my life as an artist. It's an ebb and flow that has been disrupted a few times and I am still rebounding from the Katrina experience. The past few months are the most I've written in ages.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
29 Sep 09
Oh, and thanks for the BR!
@GardenGerty (160665)
• United States
26 Sep 09
Since I either write for fun, like on MyLot, or commercially for freelance purposes, I guess I do not worry too much about my success. I just keep on writing regardless. I will have to admit that MyLot made me feel successful because people like what I have to say, and I receive both verbal compliments and best responses. I feel successful for my freelance agent because he keeps piling on the work. The best feeling, though is when my adult daughter complements me.
• United States
26 Sep 09
Having someone give you more and more freelancing work is a sure sign of success! After all, who doesn't want to be in demand for their writing? And I agree that getting that little pencil on MyLot for "best response" always makes my day, even if there were only one or two of us answering! Continued success with your writing!
• Philippines
26 Sep 09
I have been a freelance writer for almost a decade now and have had my articles published in various magazines, newspapers and websites based in my country. Some of these publications are pretty well known but I don't consider myself successful in terms of how many of my write-ups have already seen print or how much money I make. (My colleagues would probably ask "What money?" LOL because we writers don't get paid much here in the Philippines.) I treasure more the feedback from people I interview whose stories I wrote about and from the readers who said that they have also been touched by those stories. In fact, I write down all the text messages I receive in a notebook before I delete them from my cell phone. I also save all the nice emails I get from friends and strangers alike who appreciate my work. When I go through some bad patches in my writing career (inconsiderate resource persons, demanding editors, botched up schedules, etc.) I try to balance these by remembering the good things I experience in my job and remind myself that I should relish the positive things instead of dwelling on the setbacks. The latest compliment I got was from an old high school classmate of mine last week. He wrote on my Facebook wall "Keep on writing - your articles are really good - from the heart!" And that just made my day :)
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• United States
28 Sep 09
I like your idea of keeping a folder of your positive comments for those times when you get discouraged (as all writers do!). Keep up the good work. Sounds like you have success!
@snowy22315 (180699)
• United States
26 Sep 09
I personally think it is how much money you are making from writing but some people might just think it is writing to satisfy yourself and your creative impulses. I think how you satisfy yourself as a writer is a pretty individual thing and not necessarily how the next person is going to view it.
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• United States
28 Sep 09
I think you are right about the "bottom line." Money makes the (writing) world go round, as they say. And even if you get a snide comment, having $50 in your monthly payout still supersedes that. Of course, we need other types of rewards, but take away money completely, and I wonder how many people would keep on writing, especially for some of these online sites? Success is individual and ever-changing, as are we writers. Very good points you make!
@jaypatch (22)
• India
26 Sep 09
That depends on why you have become a writer?. To get money (or) to get fame (or) to share your experiences with your community (or) to see your name in print (or) you think you have got writing talent (or) blah blah.... Once you know why you are writing, you know if you are successful or not. In any case, if you want to get published you should know what publishers are looking for and if you fit the bill. Because publishers generally know what readers like. You can find answers to several questions here: http://www.leadstartcorp.com/faqs.html This website has a lot of useful information for aspiring writers and they even have a service called books-to-ideas if you struggling to express your ideas.
• United States
26 Sep 09
Thanks for recommending the website. I will go over and check it out. You make a very good point. Different people write for different reasons, and that will dictate whether you attain success (in your own mind) or not. Good luck with your own writing and however you measure it.
• Pamplona, Spain
25 Sep 09
Hi art, Consider writing in small amounts better. Also consider writing like this gives more quality for me and not the quantity. I would like to able to write a lot more of course but time is the big enemy. I also find it nard to write offline sometimes. Sometimes I write with ordinary pen and paper. Again I can´t write a lot at the moment there are continual disruptions.Moneyside of writing I have not made much yet because I have only just started to realise what I want to write about. That also answers the questiion about my success in writing as well I think have´nt done enough yet. Take care.
• United States
26 Sep 09
I agree that it is best to write to the highest level, even if that means publishing less. In addition, when you publish online, every mistake lives on forever. With enough high quality pieces, the money will come over time. It is better to strive to be the best writer you can. Good luck with your writing!
@JDBentz (37)
• United States
27 Sep 09
The question any person who aspires to be a writer or is a writer should not be the monetary or celbrity gains which may or may not come with that. Take writing movies, for example. Most people will always assume that the directors are the ones who came up with the idea of their favorite film in the first place. This is actually a trend that only existed in the 70s and 80s. Nowadays, scripts are generally written by one or two people, and normally neither is a director. They might be a producer, but that's it. The question you should ask yourself is, why are you writing? Are you writing for the fame, the money, the recognition? Are you writing so that you can introduce yourself as (John/Jane Doe, Author/Screenwriter)? Or are you writing because you enjoy it? Are you writing because you have the passion and the patience needed for such an endeavor? My answer to your question is that if you feel you are doing something good by writing, whether that be writing a book of some kind or writing a script for stage or the screens, than you should continue. While income of any kind is nice for any writer, there are always going to be only a small few who can do it for a living. It's those people who must view it as a job. If you have a job yourself, and are only writing on the side, don't worry about what kind of reaction your work will get. I did that, and kept writing more and more complicated plots and subplots for my books and scripts that I drove myself crazy. And by that, I mean I was getting 2-4 hours of sleep, was drinking two or three 2-liters of Mountain Dew or other caffeinated beverages per day, and was also having to swallow 4 pills of Migraine medication just to be able to think clearly. Don't get swallowed up by visions of fame and fortune, of recognition. The only thing that'll do to you is drive you towards a cycle of depression that some people may not have a strong enough will to pull out of. Don't let others decide whether you're a good writer. Decide for yourself you are, then show those who doubt it just how wrong they are. If you gain fame or fortune along the way, great. If not, than you'll just be one among thousands of other writers who feel they could do well, but may not have the connections to do it with. Whichever path you choose, make it the path that you feel is right for you. I only ask you take heed of my warning and those of others who have gone on to be professionals, but had these doubts, too. Again, profit and such is great, but what really matters is how you might view your writing. The simpler a story, the more exciting it might be if you work on it just right.
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• United States
28 Sep 09
Thanks for your comments. Success is in the eye of the beholder and it changes as we become better writers and more successful ourselves. Writing is about improving and growing, and the goals and measurements of that change with us.