How many of you ladies out there carry a can of mace to protect yourselves?
By Andrew
@AndrewFreyne (6281)
United Kingdom
September 27, 2009 5:26am CST
I have often wondered about this and I'm thinking that it's a good idea if you are allowed to protect yourself when you are walking in the street! However, I live in London and this is considered illegal if you carry anything like this. I'm a chap obviously and I wouldn't mind carrying something like that. To you all chaps, don't be embarrassed, do you carry a can of this stuff? For those in the states, what's it like and how does it make you feel? I think that you can legally purchase pepper spray online and I'm thinking that this might be legal over here in London although I'm not entirely sure. I really wish that we were allowed to arm ourselves with something though. Your thoughts please on this one!! Andrew
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@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
27 Sep 09
Are you talking about martial arts? If so then I also agree that this is a very good idea although quite costly too! I think, in relation to any form of martial art you are allowed to defend yourself within reason. You are not allowed to break your assailant's arm or anything. I think a good twist of the finger without actually breaking it should do the trick! Andrew
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@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
28 Sep 09
It sounds like the use of Karate really did the trick although I'm sure he could have broken his neck quite easily. Well, I would love to learn martial arts myself but it's quite expensive but I suppose it doesn't matter when you are looking to protect yourself, that is what is most important I think! Andrew
@marciascott (25529)
• United States
27 Sep 09
Well, I think it is best to have it, I don't carry it, but it is a good Idea. Maybe I will pick me up some, it is very dangerous out here. I think if a woman is walking to catch a bus, they definely should keep it with them. I drive my car, so I don't do much walking, but about a week a go this Fellow came up to my car, and it scared me. If I had some mace I think I would of sprayed it in his face, he scared the heck out of me, I was in this parking lot, waitng on my food from this Chinese Rststaurant. He came up out no where, I had to tell him get away from my Car. I wasn't playing with him either. He looked at me weird, and moved away.I could tell he had beeen drinking. Ladies it is best to keep some Mace.
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@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
27 Sep 09
That sounds like quite a dodgy experience that you had! There are so many strict laws in relation to that over here in London. I wish that things would become that much easier. I think that if everyone was allowed to carry something then there would be a greater sense of security. They have these other things which are legal like another spray can only, when you press the button a tremendous noise is released and it informs everyone in the vicinity of your situation. I don't think that this is as effective as the mace though. Andrew
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@marciascott (25529)
• United States
27 Sep 09
I think the Mace would really do that Job, don't you think, it would blind them and they wouldn't be able to see! Right away they could call the Police.
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@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
27 Sep 09
I'm sure that mace will definitely disable any assailant and it will give you at least a minute or so to run away or do something much worse to the attacker! I like the idea of pepper spray anyhow and may do some research based on that. Andrew
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@coldmoon (1088)
• France
27 Sep 09
I think a can of mace is too bulk to carry. Personally, I practice martial arts, so I can protect myself well, though I don't have chance to do it, as I always walk on crowded pavement in daytime. Besides, I think that pepper spray is a better idea, despite it costs you more.
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@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
28 Sep 09
Martial arts is good. What form of martial art do you practise? I used to attend a karate class once upon a time but that was years ago. I think that if you are not actually practising with it on a regular basis then you tend to forget the moves. I like the idea of pepper spray though, it would be nice to see the culprit coughing and spluttering away without actually doing physical harm to him. Andrew
@opalina143 (1240)
• Morristown, New Jersey
27 Sep 09
I don't carry it anymore, but when I went to college I carried a canister of Tear Gas. My dad got it for me, I don't know where. I carried it in my purse and then later when I thought about it, I thought that maybe I wouldnt' be able to get to it if it was in my purse, so I put it on my key chain. I think that tear gas is illegal and only cops are allowed to have it, but I carried it anyway, because I thought protection from a robber or a rapist was more important than anything else. And if I sprayed a criminal, he wouldn't go to the police to report it most likely because then he would have to admit that he was trying to commit a crime, and after all assaulting someone is a more serious crime than carrying tear gas. At least, I think so. But yes, it was most likely illegal. I do not have that canister any more. I never had to use it, but I did spray it once in the air as practice so that I would know how to use it if I ever had to.
Luckily nobody ever messed with me!
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@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
29 Sep 09
Tear gas? I'm sure that this would be very intimidating! Well, I think that everyone should have the right to defend themselves if they have to. I don't like the idea of walking around the street with absolutely nothing to protect yourself. It's a matter of principle. No one has the right to make your life difficult or attack you, they should pay a heavy price if they even attempt to do something like that! Andrew
@cherrc (661)
• Philippines
27 Sep 09
i have pepper sprays. gifts by my family and friends. i always go home late at night due to meetings and study sessions. but of course, in some offices, it is not really confiscated but the guards will merely tell the possessor to put it in the locker. :)
@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
29 Sep 09
I think that pepper sprays are the best thing for the moment. An attacker should pay a heavy price for crossing the line as it were. I guess you can use anything though these days like the sharp edge of a key or something similar. You only need to temporarily disable the perpetrator so that you are able to make your escape as quickly as possible. Andrew
@involved62 (790)
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27 Sep 09
I don't have one but I am thinking of getting a pepperspray, just in case. I drive my car to get to where I need to go and I hardly drive in the night. I don't go to places areas where the environment is unknown to me. The chances of me being attacked is, therfore, low. In addition, I'm quite vigilant and make sure that my doors are locked. Fortunately, this car locks automatically all doors once I drive away so I practically don't have to think about it.
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@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
27 Sep 09
I think that having a car is probably the safest option. If you can drive everywhere then why walk? Well, there's the climate issue but that's another topic altogether. I have heard that some pepper sprays leave a red dye or ink on the face of the perpetrator and it's very hard to remove. This will make it very easy for the police to locate the culprit and lock him up. There are so many websites online that focus on personal security and they sell a lot of very usefully equipment too. I only wish the the laws of Great Britain would become that much less lenient when it comes to looking out for yourself and taking some kind of positive action. Andrew
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@involved62 (790)
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28 Sep 09
That's it then, pepperspray for me. I have yet to hear though of somebody being caught because of pepperspray marks on his/her face. I wonder also if carrying a machete is illegal? This can be a thought but not a convenient one.
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@thinkingoutloud (6127)
• Canada
27 Sep 09
As far as I know, in Canada, I could not carry either mace or pepper spray legally. I'll have to do some research on that. My main form of exercise is walking and I tend to walk late at night... anywhere between 9PM and 11PM, usually, because that's the time of day I seem to be able to fit in for fitness. I do live in a community that feels comfortable to me, even at those hours, but I do know it's never really "safe." I carry my cell phone (turned on) in my pocket and my daughter gave me this very cool, very tiny light... it's SO bright when you press it. She suggested that, in areas where a streetlight might be out or where I'm close to a field or park, that I make my personal space really bright. She's right that someone with malicious intentions wouldn't want to be seen clearly, I think. Lately, one or the other of my daughters tends to be walking with me (I think they really don't like that I'm alone) if it's late. Hopefully, though, my research will provide info on something that it would be ok for me to carry.
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@thinkingoutloud (6127)
• Canada
29 Sep 09
I do too! Anything that allows you to even temporarily disable an attacker and get yourself out of harm's way seems worthwhile to me. My older daughter has actually just started a kick boxing class (where she is one of only two females regularly attending). She was interested in it for fitness but the instructor was also stressing the ability to defend one's self as a benefit so now she thinks it's an even more valuable thing to pursue.
@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
29 Sep 09
I think that everyone has the right to feel safe and if anyone trys to cross the line in attacking you then you should also have the right to defend yourself and use any means to try and escape if you are trapped. If the attacker is hurt then it shouldn't matter, he shouldn't have crossed the line in the first place. I like the idea of pepper spray! Andrew
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@sweetie1026 (1718)
• Philippines
29 Sep 09
I think that would be a great idea. I would feel a little secure and protected if there is any way that we could be able to buy pepper spray here but i am afraid that it is not yet available here, i don't know and i am not sure. If ever it is possible to get hold of any pepper spray here, then, i would get each for my girls and me so as to have some protection, if ever.
@sweetie1026 (1718)
• Philippines
29 Sep 09
Thank you.Nice chatting with you too. You take care also.
@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
29 Sep 09
There are so many different websites selling these kinds of things that it's very easy to purchase these items. However, they still might be illegal in certain countries, they certainly are in London. I think that there should be a dramatic change in the law though, this would make things much easier for your everyday law abiding citizen! Take care sweetie and it's nice chatting with you once more. Andrew
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
27 Sep 09
Hi Andrew, back when I worked in the UK the company I was with gave all female staff rape alarms to carry and they set off the most dreadful shrieking noise. As mace is as you said illegal no doubt you would be prosecuted if using it to d efend an attack and have to pay substantial compensation to your attacker so I wouldn't advise it. However equally effective and not illegal is a can of hairspray,which if you had to use but were embarrased to be caught carrying you can say you purchased it for your sister/mother/neighbour etc.
I don't carry anything round here as feel safe even at night and am well known enough that anyone thinking of attacking me would know they may well up as a floater in the next few weeks.
@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
28 Sep 09
Hi thea. I suppose there are so many things you can use without actually breaking the law. I have one of those small maglight torches and I'm pretty sure that it would make a good weapon in terms of hitting someone in the face with it. However, I have never been involved with anything like that so I don't know how I would react at the time if something was to take place. Alarms sound like a good idea, at least they inform everyone in the immediate vicinity of what is actually taking place. Andrew