Why NOT a "Public Option"?!!
@valentinesdiner (1214)
United States
8 responses
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Sep 09
No, it doesn't. It doesn't make any business sense. It doesn't make any financial sense. It doesn't make any economic sense. Pull out a calculator. Do the math.
The government would just be what amounts to another insurance company. In fact,none of the problems would be solved. They would only become more complicated because the government complicates the he!! out of everything.
NO, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
30 Sep 09
Does it make LESS sense than giving corporate welfare to the same insurance companies that are spending $1.4 million per DAY lobbying against a public option while at the same time denying the claims of thousands of paying customers who are sick and need lifesaving medical care?
Annie
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Sep 09
You want to know the major difference. I have a choice. I still have the power to say, NO. I really wish President Obama would learn the meaning of that word.
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Sep 09
You want to know the difference. I still have the power to say No. I really wish President Obama would learn the word, No. You might want to check your math again. How is the "evil" insurance companies lobbying any different from the Unions, AARP, AMA (who all want the public option) or the green companies or the million other companies who are currently lobbying Congress? Lame argument.
@WBtheMP3guy (227)
• United States
3 Nov 09
What is this "competition they're talking about? A private company CAN'T compete with an organisation that can print as much money as it needs. What about those of us who have no insurance, and don't want it? If they think they're going to FORCE me to take something I don't want, they'd better think again.
Look at your local emergency room, it's probably full to overflowing with illegal immigrants who have children with stuffy noses. they don't have the money to pay for it. How about rounding them up, and sending them home? without them, we'd save billions of dollars a year, not to mention the improvemen in ER care we who belong here would recieve.
@reppie2roo (62)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Yep and yep.
I read the comments in this thread and was shocked that so many people think a public option makes sense.
One of the common themes was that insurance companies have forced the price of their product to be unreasonable. If reality supported that statement then maybe I could agree with them. The problem is, it is not the insurance companies that have forced the price of health coverage to unreasonable levels. The health insurance industry's profit margin is 2%. I say again 2%. That is barely solvent. Which means they absolutely are not forcing the price up.
So who or what is forcing the price up? It is the government, that is who. They are doing this through medi-care medi-cade. The government tells health providers, this is what medi care will pay for this procedure. More times than not, it is less than the what the procedure actually costs in the fair market, therefore creating a loss to the provider. The provider then negotiates the price it will charge insurance companies for procedures. That price ends up being higher than the fair market price. Which means the insurance company has to either raise deductibles or raise premiums. Which means insurance is less and less affordable.
So now they are proposing a public option. No matter how the public option is funded it is going to have the same affect on private insurance costs that medi-care and medi-caid has. Don't get hung up on this is it going to be funded by tax payer money or premiums, it doesn't matter, it is going to create more of a problem either way.
As insurance companies are forced to raise prices further, they will begin to lose customers, which will mean more people on the public option, which will mean more procedures the health providers will have to take a loss, which will mean higher prices to the insurance companies which will mean higher prices to the insured. Eventually it will lead to no insurance companies.
That may sound good to some people, but what happens at that point when the providers no longer have insurance companies to subsidize the losses they are forced to take from public option patients. Those providers will start looking for different employment opportunities.
We already have a shortage of health care providers in many areas of the country, it will only get worse.
The public option at best is an attempt to fix a problem by creating more of the original problem. At worse the public option is a political ploy to "fundamentally transform America." To understand that, you have to remember what the fundamentals of America are. Its the Constitution.
Hopefully they are just kooky, and are unable to see how horrible their proposals are. If that is the case there may be a chance to fix the problems they create. More and more, I am beginning to think they're real target is the Constitution. I don't want to even think what it will take to protect that when they really start attacking it.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
30 Sep 09
Of course it makes sense...which means you just answered your own question! Why would they do something that "makes sense"...lol? Those who voted against the public option would prefer giving the insurance companies billions of taxpayers' dollars by giving subsidies to those who can't afford to pay for their overpriced plans and asking just about nothing in return from the insurers. I guess it just goes to show you many in the Senate are more concerned with continuing to get their huge contributions from the insurance industry than in giving their constituents what they want or need, right?
Annie
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
30 Sep 09
So you want to create another insurance company to combat the other insurance companies? How does that make sense?
@grammasnook (1871)
• United States
30 Sep 09
I have an idea why dont we make it illegal for companies to contribute to an employees health care plan and then lets see how many people would embrace this. Lets see if they can then afford the insurance which they are receiving. I just dont get it why cant people see that medical insurance is not affordable for your regular Joe. This is fact if we all were high paid pencil pushers then we would not have jobs, we need people that do not have a high level of education for the world to go round. With this comes some sacrafice to the pocket. You either give a little to gain a lot or give none and gain nothing.
Of course there should be a public option and I should have the option of Obama's plan as much as someone else has the option to Blue cross Blue shield.
@opalina143 (1240)
• Morristown, New Jersey
30 Sep 09
IT makes perfect sense. But some people are so selfish that they oppose it, which will allow more innocent people to die from diseases they can't afford to get treated for. They would rather pay lower taxes. Some people would rather save money than save a life.
@Koriana (302)
• United States
30 Sep 09
without the public option, if they mandate health coverage, well....
they will be just giving the insurance companies millions of coerced customers many who really can't afford their high premiums! then well, if these people can't afford the high premiums, they will be fined, then when they can't dig up the money for the fined, they will be heading for jail and fined ever more...
does this make sense to any one??
at least if there's a public option, maybe there will be a little heat on the healthcare industry and insurance companies to get the costs down to a reasonable level!
frankly, I think we need a major overhaul with the intention of getting rid of the insurance companies all together, bring it back down to the patient and the providers, and the providers can live on what we can afford to pay them!
in fact, the are a few doctors that have done away with the insurance, are charging a reasonable rate for their services, and are showing a profit as a result...it costs money to process all these claims also!
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
30 Sep 09
depends....is it going to be funded with tax payer money? Or will the people on it have to pay out of their pockets.
As long as tax payer money is not involved I am fine with it. I already pay for my own healthcare insurance....I should not have to pay higher taxes to pay for someone else's.