Too little or too much?
By worldwise1
@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
September 29, 2009 9:47pm CST
I was taught as a child that it is always better to do too much rather than too little. I have found that this attitude has served me well in everything I do. But lately I've been thinking about those who seem to always do too little. Time and time again I have been placed in a position where I end up getting the short end of the stick merely by trying to help others. It isn't that I mind so much doing more than my fair share, but I have to face the fact that I'm getting older. Do you feel that if you open your home to someone in their time of need they should be grateful enough to do their fair share in keeping the house together? I've had a daughter staying with me for a few months now, and she truly does more than her fair share of the housework. T took in another relative today and I can already see that she is not going to do her part. Never mind the fact that she is decades younger. Should I address this situation right off the bat or wait a few days to see if she shapes up? I would hate to have to tell her to leave, but I am not in the best of health, and should not have to clean up behind this girl. What would you do?
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14 responses
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
1 Oct 09
It is your house so she has to live by your rules. She wasn't raised by you so she doesn't do more than less. You should just sit her down and tell her what yioy ned done. Then see if she does it. If she doesn't , then she has to go. But if she does do it but not as fast , then she should stay. Everyone works at different speeds.I never do More than I need to, I do work hard to get things done but that's different. I don't go out of my way to do more.
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@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
2 Oct 09
That's great.I had a feeling she would help out .She just needed to know what to do.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
Thank you for your honesty, sarah, and I did get around to talking to her. She seems to be willing to comply with the rules. I really want to help this girl.
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@bdugas (3578)
• United States
30 Sep 09
Honey I have a grandson that up until a few days ago for various reasons he was homeless, attitude mostly. He is 22, now he will work his butt off if he can find a job, I felt sorry for him, and let him stay with me. i thought it would be good for both of us, he was in out of the weather, a place to eat and I would have someone here with me at night. Well, he came in flopped down on the couch, and that is where he stayed, with his work boots on and up on the couch when he slept. For 2 days he laid there, when he got up I ask him to take out the trash, and he just ignored me. I cooked supper, he went made him a plate, set it on the coffee table and when done left it there.So now at 62 years of age, I have to still take out the trash, and clean up after another one. One morning I ask him to turn the channel on the tv to the news so i could see the weather, he turned it but kept going to something else so I could not see weather, when I ask for the remote, he said I got the remote and you don't need it, long as I got it I watch what I want. Well I am the type that you in my house I pay for the cable for the tv and you just messed up. I am trying when no one else will to give you a home and you going to act like that. It took the police to take him out of here. Yes you can wait a couple days and see if this other person does their part, if they don't then my suggestion to you is get rid of them now. You surely don't need another person to pick up after, and I doubt if the one helping you likes it either. There are some that will take advantage of a situation, they can't help themselves let alone someone else, it's an attitude that seems to come with them as if someone owes them a living. I don't know how old you are but you don't need more work to do.
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@bdugas (3578)
• United States
2 Oct 09
A man that owns a business here in town, that he has worked for before, has taken him in, there is a small apartment behind the shop, and he gave him that rent free, he got him a visa card with a $100. limit on it a week, the rest of the money he makes he is holding till there is enough to pay for getting his truck out of hock with the state, (yes lost license because of no insurance)and maybe enough to get him into an apartment of his own. He likes Matt because as I said he is a worker. He has told him no friends over to his place, he has given him the key to get into the other part of the office so that he can take a shower. And I'm sure he does not need 20 people running into his office. This man is giving him the chance that he needs, now lets see how long before he messes it up.Only thing he don't have any where to cook, so his mother and I take him supper after work. Remember I said it was my grandson, one of his problems is that his father, who has also went through all his chances is living with a woman that is literly keeping him, and he told me well he is being taken care of so why can't I be. I guess it true that learn what they see. I know winter is coming here and he best be doing what he is suppose to do cause it was dang cold here yesterday morning and worse on the way.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
I am 63, bdugas, and the girl in question is one of my granddaughters. Her story is that due to making the wrong choices she has lost her children, and she is now pregnant again. Like your son, she has used up all of her options, but I could not refuse to help her when she called me two nights in a row crying about how miserable she was staying in a place with no hot water and no gas for cooking. She recently got kicked out of her apartment. Except for the daughter who lives with me, my other kids think I am crazy to help her, but I don't want to be the one who could have saved her and didn't. I have put her on notice that if she messes up this time she will have nowhere to turn. I'm praying that she will turn her life around.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
1 Oct 09
Hey worldwise~ I know that this is probably a very awkward
position to be in. But, if you wait too long it will just
become much more difficult as time goes on. If you are already
seeing that this girl is not going to be helpful in keeping
up with the housework then I think that you should tell her
nicely now before things get too far out of hand. It is better
to catch things right off then to wait until they have gotten
too far out of control and then you are too angry. Just sit
her down and explain to her your position. She is a guest in
your house and needs to comply somewhat with the house "rules".
Afterall your daughter helps you out, the she needs to also.
I would try that approach and see what happens.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
She was very agreeable when I talked to her, Opal, so if all goes well I don't foresee us having a problem later.
@lynnemg (4529)
• United States
30 Sep 09
I would not wait to talk to this person. Tell her how you feel in an honest, but kind manner. Maybe she id just unsure of what to do to help out. I have always found that it is best to lay it all on the table in the beginning to avoid any misunderstanding later. At least if you tell her what you expect, she cannot say that she did not know.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
You are right, lynnemg, and I believe that we now have an understanding.
@OpinionatedLady (5965)
• United States
30 Sep 09
Yes say something. a ground work of what is expected should be done right off the bat. If she feels awkward doing chores with out being told she won't do them. It can be strange being in some one else's house. Also the ground work should be laid out so that everyone knows what is expected of them.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
She has been around me all of her life, Opinionated, so there is no problem there. I know that she is a mother and knows what to do and how to do it, so I think she will be alright.
@Shr416 (27)
• India
30 Sep 09
I really think you should address this situation right off, rather than wait. I mean if indeed she has not been doing her part for, say, a couple of weeks or so, I don't think she is going to start doing it all of a sudden (on her own). Perhaps, you can drop a few gentle hints and see if she gets the point. Perhaps, commending your daughter in front of her - for the work she does - might get her attention and let her know that she needs to do her part as well. If that doesn't work and she's too dumb to understand the gentle hints, then you'd need to have a frank and honest talk with her and lay it down straight.
Coming back to the "too little or too much" debate, I know of one thing where "too little" is always better than "too much" and that is when it comes to "talking." In that respect, I've always found that talking "little" is always better than talking "too much." Especially, if you are the sort who are prone to gaffes and inappropriate comments which end up hurting others and ruining the relationships you have!!!
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
I don't have a problem when it comes to talking, Shr, since I am a person of few words. I tend to be a much better listener.I did go ahead and bite the bullet to let her know exactly what I expect of her though.
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
30 Sep 09
I would address it immediately. I would be nice but to the point. Don't let anyone take advantage of you like that. You should not have to clean up behind her. She should be cleaning up behind you.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
Thanks for your input, Thoroughrob. I did have the talk with her, and she has agreed to abide by the rules that I've set down. Now it is a matter of waiting to see if she follows through.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Sep 09
Personally I would put the rules down to her from Day 1 as she might not know what is expected from her or she thinks she is going to be waited on, if you wait a few Days she might just get an attitude
To me if I put the rules down from Day 1 they do not have the excuse to say well I didn't know
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
Yes, gabs, and I finally got up the nerve to talk to her and explain what is expected of her. She says that she will do as I ask. I hope she does.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
I have said the same thing to myself, stephcjh, but, what can I say? I'm an old softie.I don't know how some of these young people get themselves into situations, but I always try to help them if I can.
@thebeaddoodler (4262)
• Lubbock, Texas
30 Sep 09
Some people seem to feel that if they're asked to do their fair share that they are the ones being taken advantage of. That's just their mindset. I'd address the issue right now since you didn't lay down ground rules before you took that relative in. I have rarely been in a position to take in others, but when I have, ground rules are pretty simple. Meals are at this time, if you want in-between-snacks, provide them yourself. Pick up after yourself. If that person doesn't seem to be a self starter assign jobs. They have no right accept your hospitality and expect you and your daughter to be their servants.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
I have explained all of this to her, beaddoodler, and I am hoping that she will do the right thing.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
30 Sep 09
I would suggest to this newest resident that she could do X,Y & Z to help out and give her the opportunity to step up to the plate or not...and I wouldn't wait to talk to her. Sometimes folks need to be motivated, especially if they're lazy or believe that they can get a free ride if no one speaks up.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
She has agreed to abide by my rules, spalladino, so I am hoping for the best here.
@thedataminer (515)
• United States
30 Sep 09
My son and I've been in a situation where we needed a place to stay and had to travel and go stay with my family. We hadn't been there even 1 day before starting to get bossed, ordered around and told what to do. We ended up not staying but a few days because of the bad way they were treating us. We ended up going back to where we use to live at for years and had to go asking non family for help. My son and I now live kind of far from family. They say they love me but you know actions speak louder then words. I think it's important to try not to over do things. A home of course shouldn't be filthy but at the same time it doesn't have to be spotless. Maybe you could offer the young girl a little money to do some chores. In any case please be kind. What's that saying about sugar coating goes allot farther then something ...
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
I agree with you, dataminer, and I am sorry that you and your son were treated so badly. I could never imagine myself being mean to anyone, least of all my family members. This girl has consistently messed up her life over and over to the point where she had no options left. Everyone was fed up with her. I felt that she was due one more chance. I don't have to support her financially because she has a source of income.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
30 Sep 09
When she moved in the rules should have been stated. I nor my daughter will clean up after you. You need to clean up after yourself. I'm not in good health and my daughter already does more than enough. I can't imagine living with someone and not doing my share. In fact I'm like your daughter I do more then my share and have done this all my life.
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
You're absolutely right, lelin, and my daughter told me the same thing. I really want to help her, but she has to realize that she has to also help herself.
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
1 Oct 09
She is an adult, dust, with her own means of income, but has gotten herself into a bad situation.