The 'English' accent
By Shahrus
@Shahrus (68)
Philippines
October 1, 2009 2:04pm CST
I had an incident earlier today that I admit vexed me somewhat.
It has happened quite often, and I usually let it pass (as I did today), but I just need to get this off my chest.
I greeted a new neighbor today, who's American, and after just a few seconds, she squeals (yes, I chose the right word, my ears stopped ringing some time ago) and says:
"Oh mah! Wut a luuuuv-leh British eyuk-se-yunt yeeew hey-yuv!"
(she's from Texas, if I heard correctly despite the ringing)
Which got me thinking (as it always does):
Since it is called the "English" language, and we are called the "English" people, why do Americans and Canadians think WE are the ones who speak with an "accent"?
I've even had Americans remark on the "fact" that I speak with an English "dialect".
Yes, D I A L E C T, I'm neither exaggerating nor making it up!
(I swear!)
I suppose if the language were called "American", they'd be correct.
But it's called "English".
Any thoughts on this?
4 responses
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Oct 09
Hi Sharus, and the UK being such a small place they ask if you know their friend Sylvis Smith who they met whilst doing Europe in a week.
It's not just the accent thing at all, it's the spelling too, and those strange words which have somehow replaced the original ones. Trying to explain what a punture is gets pretty complicated when the English live in flats.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
4 Oct 09
Well it's a good job I was stalking above or I'd have missed all that, no alerts don't you know. The stalking arose from a rather offensive poster who you profess to love upon short acquaintance but has riled a lot of nerves this past day, well you may have gathered that the blue rabbit and I can be a tad sensitive. So tell me, when out and about in your current locale tell me you would only only speak the local language with your new USA neighbour as realise to speak together in English, even half the conversation in American English, would be a sign of total rudeness and show your terribly bad upbringing. Please do pop along and have some fun into the Wheelie bins diatrabe on the bad manners of foreingers in foreign lands. only 2 steps above in started.
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@Shahrus (68)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
Hey, thea09!
How flows the ouzo in your area this year?
I actually get that here, as well!
People love to ask me if I've met the Queen!
"All the time!" I say. "Why, she and I are on a first name basis, as a matter of fact!"
D'you know, some people actually fall for it!?
Pathetic.
On the subject of spelling, though, I've forced myself to use the American version. So much more concise.
Not to mention the way they use apostrophes and quotation marks. So much more practical, I think. Especially when putting possessives in quotations.
Ooh, I can't resist, thea09:
Yesterday, I was concerned about what they were saying on the aerial about the coming storm, so after my elevenses, I stepped out of my terrace house for some victuals like bangers (there's this German deli nearby, see?) for making butty and such (can't cook, I can't, worse luck) and whatnot, like extra torches and candles.
Actually, I have a lot of candles, but I tend to bung 'em about the place.
Thought I'd also step into the chemists' just in case, and the off license, too, just to tide me over till, mind!
(I don't actually take what you get at the latter, but have friends that do, and you know why I'm really writing this, don't you?)
There's a department store nearby, so why drive? No need to take the artic I don't have (see above).
As I'll be carrying stuff, I got on my mac and my trusty daps (just in case), and while I was about to get on the zebra crossing (there really was one), this bird calls out to me (the one that got me started on this post), and the rest is history.
I actually exaggerate. I was quite chuffed to meet a new neighbor (notice the American spelling?), but that high pitched voice has to go.
' was a Gordon Bennett, it was!
Otherwise, it was all rather corking.
"Dialect", they call it. Barking, I say, absolutely barking!
Well, that's that for me, for now. No storm, and I'm on my way out for a night on the town.
Bob's your uncle!
@irishidid (8687)
• United States
4 Oct 09
Interesting, never thought of it that way.
One never thinks they have an accent. When I go out west they always know I'm from the midwest. So evidently I do have an accent or "midwestern drawl" as it's called. The closer you get to Arkansas the more "southern" we sound. There are people here that I think have an accent.
One thing I have noticed is that the British do a much better American than Americans do British when it comes to acting.
@Shahrus (68)
• Philippines
13 Oct 09
Hello irishidid,
Well, admittedly, I guess I do have an accent, but I must also stress the fact that I consider mine the default!
I do know, however, that by American standards, the mid-western accent is likewise considered the default.
Not sure about the British actors doing American better than otherwise, though. Must look into this further.
Thanks for pointing it out.
@wlee9696 (595)
• United States
1 Oct 09
Well the "English" spoke it first. I would have to say I agree - the British "accent" should be considered the official pronunciations. Although there are as many accents in Europe as there are here in the US. Which one would you use? Very good question.
@Shahrus (68)
• Philippines
1 Oct 09
Clearly you are intelligent.
I like you already, though obviously I'm biased.
Admittedly, even in the UK, there are a vast range of accents, though anything that deviates from the "Queen's" English, is considered sub-standard (perhaps a bit of an exaggeration... though not by much).
That said, in comparison to the accents spoken in the US, Canada, or elsewhere, I tend to think that the ENGLISH spoken in ENGLand by the ENGLISH people is normal, while ENGLISH spoken outside it, is not.
I have noticed, however, that some Americans from... ooh, I forgot which state it was, do tend to pronounce their words more in keeping with what I consider... correct.
Lordy, this is going to bug me now... which state, which state, which state is it?
...
(ooh, this is seriously going to nag at me)
@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
2 Oct 09
well for them you have an accent and for you they have an accent. So accents for everybody i say. The thing is one person from a specific region tends to believe he talks without accent. For example Im from Ecuador and i talk spanish, for me the people from Spain have a spanish accent but for them i have an accent. So i dont think there is a "correct way" they are just different
Uh and by the way i also LOOOOOVE how british talk
@Shahrus (68)
• Philippines
3 Oct 09
I see your point, however, I believe that those who spoke it first, get first dibs.
(ha! ha!)
The further we stray from those who have first dibs, the more the "accent" gets pronounced.
So that... ooh, let's say an Indian or a Chinese speaks English, while maintaining the sounds of their native language, then we get an accent!
Americans, for example, consider a mid western accent to be accentless, the standard.
Any deviations from that "accentless" speech, is an accent.
Including English as we, the English, speak it.
I very much beg to disagree.
... but then, I AM English...
... or so my passport says.