The Homeless are not all drunks,druggies, or mental cases.
@Hatley (163776)
Garden Grove, California
October 7, 2009 10:11am CST
This may be abit of a rant but it really hurts me that all people think that all homeless people are either drunks,druggies, or mentally ill. for heavens sake one month I was just another middle class woman living with my adult son in a two br apartment , and two months later because my son lost his job, we ran out of money,we were evicted and homeless. no we were and are not drunks, we do and did never do drugs, and we are not mental cases. we may have been some of your next door neighbors. so why malign a lot of unlucky people who were in the same fix as we were and lump all homeless people as drunk,drugged, looney toons? It is so unfair and unjust. Mylot friends,what is your take on this? I know of course there are mentally ill p eople that are homeless, and drunks, and drug addicts, but there are also many many women and children and men who are simply out of work and were evicted or had their homes foreclosed and thus became homeless.Either they had no family to turn to ,or their families did not have any funds either to help them. I even met one young woman with a four month old baby who was homeless. she was not mentally ill, she was not a drunk, and she was very intelligent and scared silly so please do not forget a lot of these people are simply just like your neighbors.
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@winddancer1323 (162)
• United States
11 Oct 09
I am completely in agreement with you. I am a social worker for the homeless, and the people I work with are homeless families. That's right, families. Most of them are single mothers trying to care for their children. People don't realize how difficult it is- how are you suppose to work full time and care for your young children, when you have no support system such as friends or family and childcare is ridiculously expensive? Especially when you live in a state where rent is extremely high, and you are only earning minimum wage because you lack a college degree. If someone is working in the family and they lose their jobs, this tough economy and high unemployment rate means that it is extremely difficult to find another one in a short period of time. So, as the poster stated, they are evicted because they are unable to pay rent. There are also those who lost their homes and their possessions from a no-fault situation, such as fire or flood. I think its safe to say that most people do not have renters insurance. There are also those who migrate here legally from other countries, after winning the visa lottery program. They come here in search of a better life, because surely being homeless in the US is better than living in absolute poverty in a third world country. Here we have social services to help the needy, especially homeless families. They come without money, prospects of a job, or friends or family. So they will be homeless.
You are right in your call for less ignorance. It is not fair to stereotype, especially when the stereotype certainly is not true.
@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Hey winddancer! I'm going to post my response to Hatley because I need some help in which direction to go in for I haven't a clue! lol Hope you don't mind Hatley!!
I have thought about going to the homeless shelter and sponsoring a woman's child by taking it home to care for it till she gets on her feet. I don't know how welcomed I'd be but it is a dream of mine as well as going to the nursing home to visit some of the elderly because I love to hear their stories which I know they have a lot to tell. Who knows, maybe some day I'll get over this fear of mine and take the bull by the horns and go do it. I think it would be a lot of fun not to mention, very rewarding!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi winddancer then you do see what I was trying to call attention to , those whose only socalled crime was losing their jobs, and running out of money. My son is still out of work but we fared well as we found help 11 months back my son put me here In Gold crest a retirement center and he got help to live in a gov.sponsored apt with three other men all of whom are out of
work. but there are women with little children out there and need help so sad, they did nothing to deserve being homeless.my heart 'goes out to the young mom with the tiny baby maybe two months old,what I wonder was her story , where was the dad, where were her parents. she needed help.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
19 Oct 09
hi both of you I used to work for many years as a nurse's aid and I found that the elderly women in the nursing homes were so lonely as once in there it seemed like the kids forgot they
existed so I would always spent a few minutes just talking to
them. I think a lot of nursing homes would love someone to come in
and just visit with those who were so lonely.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
7 Oct 09
Hi Hatley, years ago I saw an episode of Opray on this and I can't remember the percentages quoted but many many Americans were only one pay cheque away from being homeless. I always remembered that as it terrified me. I'd say the whole thing is a sad indictement of American society that that can be the case in what is supposed to be the richest country in the world. Maybe it got rich by not caring about people like you.
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@agv0419 (3022)
• Philippines
8 Oct 09
Here in the Philippines many now are homeless because of the last typhoon that hits us recently. Their situation are so pathetic they are no houses to turn to because flood wiped it out. Now that we are still in crisis I think they can't move on easily. All of their properties washed out by the flood and they are depending on relief and shelter in evacuation sites.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 09
hi friend so many of my friends on my mylot list are filipinos
and my heart goes out to you all, I just wish I had money to'send for help or food or other needs but alas I do not so all I
'can do is send my prayers that you will get help and in time may'be able to rebuilt. I realize it was an awful disaster and has left people in terrible straits. hope my country is sending you aid as the US usually does, and you all really need this now. good luck and God bless.
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@rosepedal64 (4188)
• United States
7 Oct 09
Hi Hatley...This is a great discussion. I think that everyone needs to know that the homeless is full of all kinds. No one should be labled until you know them. We have had our share of bad luck as well. I living in a camper right now due to my husband got laid of for many months. Thank goodness that we had this camper or we have been one of the homeless with lables being placed on us. People need to ask questions befor they give someone a lable..Have a great day...
@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
7 Oct 09
Hello my friend
You are so sweet, thats right my friend make your camper look like home, if I ever have the money I will buy one and keep it in my yard I love them so much, someone told me you can't have then in the city this was a while ago, I never see any drive by, I think it has to do with the height or something I forgot why this is, we have trucks passing by all the time, I will look into because they are really good to have, it will be like a home away from home.
Smoochesss, I am smiling lol
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
7 Oct 09
hi rosepedal and kitty thanks I remember wishing that we had had a camper.but now its not too bad here in Gold Crest better than staying in a homeless shelter and I have made some friends here, and some day hopefully my son and all the others out of work will get jobs again then he can move me back into an apartment with him. meantime I will enjoy the friends I have made here and on mylot too.
@rosepedal64 (4188)
• United States
7 Oct 09
Thats right Hatley..Just keep your spirits up and the head held high. I believe in you, so you need to believe in you too..Keep smiling and have a great day....
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
7 Oct 09
Hello my friend
What a great discussion I have been there myself with my daughter and grandson, we were blessed to find people to help us, we are none of these things you mentioned, I have seen both sides of this, and I never judge people because you never know what they have been through, some people make it obvious they have that could care less attitude but others really need help and we have no right to judge them for their misfortune, I never thought it would happen to me but it did, and we came through it with the help of some wonderful people, its still hard living here in the city is really expensive which is why I need to get back to work, being out of work help us to get to where we are now believe it or not, but we are still a stones throw away from it happening again, I will do my best to make sure it does not happen, people need to not judge others its not right.
Thank you my friend
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
7 Oct 09
hi to both kitty and rose yes a lot of people do not even
realize how close to being homeless they are,just a paycheck
away and boom if you have no people to help you,we did have
friends who tried to help but they were renting too and the
landlord was breathing down their neck for putting us up as long as they did. when disaster strikes we sure find out who our
real friends are in a hurry and I just want to say bless them.
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@rosepedal64 (4188)
• United States
7 Oct 09
Hi kitty
How are you doing girl? I saw you here and thought I would stop in and give a quick hello. I have been working around the camper a little trying to make it look more like a home..LOL..You take care of yourself and keep smiling...
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@kitty42 (3923)
• United States
7 Oct 09
Hello my friend
Sme here my friend, god bless them, we were helped more from strangers than anyone else, your right you sure know who your friends are when you are down I learned alot through this and I see things so much clearer than before, some people love to see others down, I will never be so far down that I can't get up thats for sure.
Again great discussion, thanks for sharing this.
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@jashoaf (296)
• United States
8 Oct 09
It is sad, and wrong to lump people into any category. We have lived one check away from homeless most of our lives. We have lots of family to turn to should it ever come to that, but I know many who do not have that to fall back on. We had a trailer in our back yard for years that got used as a temp home for an awful lot of down-and-outers untill they could get back on their feet. We kept it because we were so close to being there ourselves, and could relate, I guess.
I think many folks are afraid to face "what could be" and that's what they see when they see homeless folks. So deriding them bolsters their bravado. It's shameful, for if we all worked together there would be solutions available for folks in need.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 09
jashoaf that would be f antastic if people would really 'do
so but most p eople it seems to me if they are okay do not
give a flying damn about anyone else. we need to find
people who really do care about each other.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi jashoaf the only real soultion to homelessness is for our'
government to make jobs in the most critical areas so that those whose only crime was to lose their jobs can once more afford an apartment and live again like they were doing before all hell broke loose on them. 11 months ago my son put me here in gold crest retirement center and he found gov.help into an asst. housing for himself so he could look for work. so we are so fortunate.
@jashoaf (296)
• United States
12 Oct 09
I'm glad things worked out for you, and government assitance is certainly one way to get help - sometimes the only way. But I disagree with your statement that the only way the problem will be solved is for government to create jobs. I think the best, most viable option is for government to get out of our lives as much as possible! This will free up society to heal itself. When people work together problems get solved. When government steps in more and more - as we have seen over the last few decades - not only do people lose the money and ability to help each other, but also the incentive to do so.
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@RachelleNH (1396)
• United States
8 Oct 09
Well said! I was homeless once for the same reason...I didn't get child support after he left me and I lost my apartment. We were living in my car in the remote woods. I will never forget that feeling as long as I live.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi rachellenh yes its just a horrible feeling and you
will never forget it.we were actually only in this for
nine days and my son said we have to get you into a place
where you can have a roof over your head and be safe,he
found adult protective services, and they put me here in
Gold Crest and my son is in gov. asst. housing with three
'other guys so they can hunt for wo rk.
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
8 Oct 09
I think we are going to see alot of it unfortunately. People are in such a mess. There are just not enough jobs to keep everyone working enough to pay bills. It is so sad. I always try to help by giving something, although, I do not like handing them money.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 09
hi thoroughrob I also do not like to hand out money What we
need in this country is for the President to work on making
enough jobs for all so we can all get back to work and
pull out the economy in the US.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
riyasam that was one of the things I was trying to get'at and one responder just thought I was doing this as a bid for sympathy as she said she read between the lines. well she read wrong. for 11 months I have been in this place. I was never using this discussion for my personal thing but to point out not to judge those who are not drunks or addicts or looneys.
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@sallysue (326)
• Canada
9 Oct 09
I live in Canada and I'm so impressed with their medical plan that if we lived in the U.S. we'd probably be out in the street as well. In today's economy people are walking a fine line from a career to being out in the street. It can happen in a blink of an eye.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi sallysue I have heard you have a great medical plan
and I am lucky that I have Secure Horizons special plan for seniors because a lot of people here in the US do not have any
insurance as the health insurance people have made their plans so highly expensive. yes it can happen in the blink of an eye for sure.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
7 Oct 09
I'm very glad you brought this up. I was thinking much the same when I asked people what they would do if they found someone living in their attic or basement.
I was homeless a couple of times due to financial disaster. It wasn't pleasant!
Many of the homeless aren't helped because our resources are stretched to the breaking point right now. There are tent cities of homeless people all over the nation! You won't see it in the media, they are ignoring it, but those tent cities are growing at an alarming rate.
No, not all the homeless are impaired. Thank you for educating myLot and perhaps it will inspire someone here to look more kindly on the next homeless person they see.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
8 Oct 09
Many economists are saying we are in a depression but the media ignores them. I truly believe we are in a depression and it will only get worse with the looters we have in DC. I can't buy gold or anything but I'm stocking up on food.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 09
hi dragon yes it is a depression no matter what they 'say
let us see people getting jobs then I will believe
that things are getting better until then no.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
7 Oct 09
hi dragon54u thanks I did think someone should speak for
those who were caught in this bad economy like me and
my son. a lot of people I met were well educated, and
could have worked most anywhere had someone offered
them a job. the stigma sure does need to be removed
so these people can be given jobs.People who think this
economy is not as bad as the last depression need to
open their eyes and look around.
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@UtopianIdealist (1604)
• United States
10 Oct 09
I know for certain it is not true, I have known homeless people beofore, and also as my partner and I were homeless for a little under a year, 2002-03. We lived in an area with extreme unemployment, our benefits ran out and we were unable to find another way to pay for rent, as the temp jobs we were doing did not pay enough. We most of our belongings in the eviction, only having a small car to keep blankets, work clothes and such. We eventually lost those jobs due to the couple of companies we were working for not needing temp workers. In the state we were in, homelessness was on the rise, and there was not even a shelter to take us. Without kids, we had no priority, and were unable to even get food stamps without an address. We were not the only ones with this same story, at the human services department, they told me I should try to conceive so we could get help. Our car was a piece of crap, that we kept just to have shelter, though we could not park in any one place, long. We eventually saved up enough to take a chance with the car and go to another state that had more jobs. A bit later, in a new state, we had a couple of jobs each, and qualified for a low income apartment, and since we were now full time employed, we qualified for some food stamps. (weird, huh?)
Fast forward several years... We are now middle class. We are in a house, in a different city, health insurance, two cars, big screen tv, two computers... You get the idea. I am pregnant and no longer work much unless it is to help my partner with his business. We are not on any form of assistance, and as we are not "legally married" We each pay a very high tax bracket. I am always in search of being able to earn income from home, as we did a few years ago when we were self employed. That went bust after 3 years, but the state we are in now had jobs and so it was not an issue as it was in '02.
My point is, we were not drunks, though we like to drink everyonce in awhile, we are not addicts, though at parties, we have smoked some herb, though we were always employed while doing so, and we are not crazy or incapable. Anyone who says the welfare system is a scam is mistaken. It's biggest problem is that it does not give enough assistance. We both were malnourished and were ill with the flu off and on for quite sometime, mainly due to not being allowed medical, housing or even food because we did not have children. People are able to get off assistance, some cheat the system, but many, wish to be able to afford the things that everyone else has.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi yes all I wanted to do was show through our own seeing that a lot of homeless people are not scum,bums, beggars drunks or addicts but just people who got down on their luck, so did'not expect some of the static I seemed to have raised. I am 83,on social security for years am now in retirement center my son in govasst. housing so he and his roommates can look for work. we were only in homeless shelters for 9 days.
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@lumenmom (1986)
• United States
14 Oct 09
You are soooooo very right about this. In fact, most of the homeless people that I have come to know are just people who have come into hard times that they could not work themselves out of. A physical injury or illness (not necessarily mental) can render you homeless in a heartbeat. When the incomes disappears, bills don't get paid and thinsg get taken away including your home. I have been a very hard working woman since the age of 14 and did not dream I would one day be homeless, but several things happened that created my "perfect storm" and there I was. I agree that not only should people be reminded that some of these people can be neighbors but they should also be reminded that it can happen to ANYONE!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
19 Oct 09
yes that is it, I had wo rked all my life unti I was eighty and then I broke my shoulder, had to have a shoulder joint replacement which left me with hardly any use in my left arm so no longer could work in the library. So I lived with my son on his one paycheck whiich just barely covered the rent and utilities then he got laid off. well now we are both safe and in shelter, me in this retirement center, he in an apartment with three other guys all of whom are looking for works.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
20 Oct 09
oh lumenmom I do so hope that you can find a home for all of'you
soon. its so sad and heartbreaking not to have your own home or apartment. good luck and God bless you all.
@lumenmom (1986)
• United States
19 Oct 09
Wow,I commend you on working for all those years and then having to suffer through a broken shoulder on top of things! I am so glad you have found shelter. I currently live with relatives but my husband who was out of my life for awhile has come back and is looking for a place for us. We still have a young daughter to care for so hopefully we will find something soon!
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@AngryKittyMSV (4317)
• United States
12 Oct 09
"There but for the grace of God go I"
Most people in America and many other places around the world are only one missed paycheck, job loss, serious illness or natural disaster from suffering the same fate as so many before them and becoming homeless. It CAN happen to anyone regardless of how smart, hard working or ethical they may be. Sometimes things happen which are beyond our control. People would do well to remember that before casting (often incorrect) judgment on others.
Great subject for discussion, Hatley, thanks for putting up this important reminder that I think everyone should see.
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@ttullius (3)
• United States
11 Oct 09
ohmygosh I know!! I know many people who have become homeless and have had to seek out people to stay with until they needed a job. What is really depressing is when you read in the newspaper and see on tv that little punks pick on and beat up homeless people in the middle of the night. It's appalling!! I don't know how those people could live with themselves doing such terrible acts. I am awaiting the day where universal health care is brought to the U.S. so the homeless can be treated :)
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi ttullius yes we stayed most of that time with friends, and then my son found that protective services for seniors cou ld help me to get into a retirement center then he got help himself get into a gov.sponsored apt with three other men all looking for work, so we did luck out.
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
9 Oct 09
Well said Hatley. I quite agree with you. It is possible for this to happen to anyone and people should stop being so prejudiced. With the economic troubles at the moment and so many people losing their homes, there are whole families becoming homeless.
In Australia we currently have a problem with rents being extremely high and there are not enough rental properties for everyone who needs them, and the only ones that are empty are only for the rich. We have a real problem at the moment that there is not enough low cost housing for people who need it.
Instead of condemning them people should help them.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
11 Oct 09
Yes it is a real problem for anyone who is renting or paying off property. Even if you own your own home you can have troubles if you cannot afford to pay the rates. I am grateful that it has never happened to me. That is mainly because we have support payments for people who are out of work and the family home was paid off so there were just the rates to deal with.
When my mother got the house in the divorce settlement we made sure that we always covered the house bills before we put money aside for anything else. She only had the pension and I was out of work but we managed because the house was paid off. If it had not been then we would have lost it.
I think it is sad that so many people judge others unfairly and so few of them seem to realise how easy it is to fall on hard times and lose everything. I think it is very sad that society is so selfish these days and that there is very little place for those who fall on hard times. It would be much better if our society was geared towards helping everyone rather than on trying to get all the money in the hands of a few and discarding all those who fall to the bottom.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 09
hi sharra! yes we have to have something done to
'make our economy turn around, we need help from
the president to goose the right people to'
jump start our enconomy.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi sharra1 yes it could happen to anyone so we all
need to stop judging anyone as we do not know what'happned
'to them. we are also having terribly high rents'here
in Southern Ca. does not seem that they will come down'
either and so many out of work.
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@jdyrj777 (6530)
• United States
8 Oct 09
I, like you, was homeless. The other homelss people i knew called it camping. It lasted 4yrs. I even had a job. Once your out there its hard to get back in. To rent apt they run credit check. Life is costly on the streets too. Just to keep food in the belly. Also after you are out there for awhile its hard to get back to living under a roof again. Its quite an experience. Part of that time i had my youngest daughter with me.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi jdyrj777 well with us, and we were lucky it only lasted nine days as my son found adult protective services and they got me into this retirement center and him into a gov.sponsored apt with three other guys all of whom were out of work.that was 11 months ago and he is still out of wo rk.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 09
hi jdyrij it just has to turn around pretty soon, people'
are going to get antsy enough to d emand the President
work on this now.
@tamarafireheart (15384)
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7 Oct 09
Hi Hatley,
I don't know how your country's systems is but in the UK, the goverment will never let a mother and children on the streets, if they get evicted from a rented flat(apartment) they get re-housed from the goverment and would live on benefits and their rent is paid for them, that goes for a lot of people even though they have no children.When my mother's house was sold my brother was homeless and we took him in but it was like biting the hands that feeds, my brother did not get on with my hubby but we found him a half way home, he did not like and endede up homeless again, but eventuall the goverment got him a nice apartment to live in and it is very nice place and he love it, he do not have to pay for the apartment only his domestic bills and he is on benefits so he is ok. There are many people had to0 leave their homes because of circumstances and no they are not all what you have mentioned, it is very hard for people in your country if they don't get any help from the goverment. I am so glad you both are ok now.
Tamara
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Oct 09
hi tamarafireheart here in the uS they have a lot of social bureaus but so much red tape that people like ourselves
would be hard put to sort it all out but luckily my son '
found that there was a bureau called senior protective'services that put homeless women like myself into an assisted living
center,I am 82 and my social security and ssi checks more than
paid for this by the month. also there was a goverment program for out of work men that provided them with housing paid by the
government so they could live while going out job hunting.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi aerous thanks well its the problem of our bad economy ,jobless rate is up to 11 p ercent,and a lot of people lost their jobs due to cutbacks, thus they ran out of money and were evicted or had their homes foreclosed thus they were made homeless now for 11 months I have been here in gold crest a retirement center and my son is in government asst. housing so he can look for wo rk, and he is still out of wo rk.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 09
hi awrous it has to turn around one day and hopefully
maybe that day will be sooner rather than later.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
11 Oct 09
I think the government of the United States of America and the European Union will punish the big two companies that will result to this crisis. The lehman brothers and all it's executive because if not because of them. The economy will be stable...
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
8 Oct 09
I really feel for the homeless people in poor countries that have lost their homes due to war or natural disasters or that have never had a home to begin with. But I do struggle to have sympathy for people in wealthy countries such as here in Australia. I do not really understand how they can end up homeless, when the government give so much assistance here. I do feel for the mentally challenged people though, who have no family to help them!
We only have 21 million people in this country and it is so large, but most of the people are jammed into the cities along the east coast and there are many homeless, because they cannot afford the price of housing in the city! If they moved out into the country areas, they could start life fresh in a place that is affordable. They could even live off the land!
There are many choices available to people to find housing and I feel that most here do not try as hard as they could to look at all their options! I am sure that some here even enjoy being homeless in these nice beachside areas!
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi rawbill I had not realized that that was going on in Australia that is sad, if I were among them I would gladly
move into the country, I love country living as I was born
'and brought up on a farm in " SouthDakota USA That is
sad that opportunities are there and people do not take
them. Here it is quite different, too high rents, and no jobs'and those who are working can barely make the rents, and nobody here except very wealthy can buy homes, as they are close to a million dollars to buy. Ca is hit really bad unemployment up to 11per cent no jobs and hundreds wanting jobs.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 09
oh no rawbill they would surely not do that, oh not at'
all.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
11 Oct 09
A million dollars...wow!
House prices have risen massively here over the last decade, which has led to more homelessness, but you can buy cheaper houses for around $300,000 here and units for around $200,000. Out in the country areas, they are probably around $100,000 less depending on the areas.
Rents have also risen accordingly, but there are so many millionaires living in these massive six and seven bedroom houses here that homelessness would be cut out if they opened their homes to them. I cannot see them doing that though! LOL
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@greenfeathers (1206)
• United States
8 Oct 09
Rant on!!
I think why so many folks choose to see homeless folk in such a negative light is because it then gives credence to their unwillingness to give a chit..If one can blame 'those' people for 'their' cicumstances then we needn't be bothered with 'them'. Social Responsibility gone sour.
As for those negative aspects, Liz and I get into discussions about such things, usually because somebody said 'such and such'. My take on it is that these negatives could very easily be the result of homelessness..a way of dealing with the situation..rather than be the cause of it.
That's not to justify, however, we all deal with situations differently and, in such a case, one has lost their home/personal security, they've lost the 'things' of importance to them and perhaps the people important to them and may see no way out of this imposed deadend. The light at the end of the dream tunnel has gone dark for them. And they cope in a manner that they can..
Out where we live, there's a few(?) homeless folks. Some beg, some don't. One fella works part-time at the mom/pop convenience store. Another gets lunches a couple times a week from a neighbor lady while I support his cola habit and I've been known to help out monetarily..because of an attitude my mom had about things..'You can't share it when you don't have it. So it makes sense to share it when you do.' That's Social Responsibility to me.
With homeless folk the sharing seems more important whether its money, or a bit of nicotene or some time and companionship..The fella with the cola habit has wild ideas that will one day make the both of us rich! And who knows, let's be positive, he may have one..or get one..with the time he has to think on things. But for the now of it I'm one of his sounding boards for his 'notions'.
To steal a quote..I have friends in low places..But, if I recall correctly, so did the Christ..hmmm
Later..
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
11 Oct 09
hi greenfeathers we were lucky in that we were only in homeless shelters for nine days.my son found adult protective services that put me here in this retirement center which is paid for with my social security and my ssi check, and my son has been for 11 months now in gov.assisted housing with three other men all of whom are actively seeking work. there are still a lot out there who do need help, if only we co uld get the president and congress to work on making jobs in these places where unemployment is so high, we cou ld help all those p eople who are simply out of wo rk.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Oct 09
yes we need to make some changes to bolster our sagging'
economy and to lower the cost of living and make some
new jobs
@greenfeathers (1206)
• United States
12 Oct 09
Unfortunately we appear to have a government that is more concerned with creating more unemployment by supporting the roughshod economy and the greed-meisters who have produced it. Were they to use taxes as an incentive for creating job opportunities rather than as a reward for greed the situation could turn around...giving tax breaks to those institutions that assist the jobless by creating employment, and to those who further assist in providing monetarily sane cost of living assistance in housing, food and utilities..and tax the living crap out of those unwilling to go along with the program. It would surprise everyone how quickly this 'bad' economy would turn around..
Now that's something to shoot for..
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