what is the cause of worldly sorrows?
By vijayanths
@vijayanths (7877)
India
October 13, 2009 1:04pm CST
desire?
fear?
laziness?
something else?
Buddha said that desire is the cause for all sorrows.
Vivekananda thought fear is the cause of all sorrows.
I think desire and fear are definitely cause sorrows in life. But we can't live with out desires. It is very difficult to live with out fear. But we need to practice to live with a detached attachment and with out fear.
It is not easily possible, not impossible though.
Ehat do you think?
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7 responses
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
14 Oct 09
Hi vijayanths,What is the cause of all worldly sorrows, now that is a difficult question to answer. I'm wondering if perhaps fear and desires might not be connected. Aren't we afraid that we won't get our desires. If we are afraid of getting sick, doesn't that mean that we desire good health? If we are afraid of our children being hungry, don't we desire the means of supporting them? It appears to me that the reason we fear anything is because we desire something else.I don't know if I'm making any sense to you or not, maybe you are thinking along completely different lines. Awaiting your response.Blessings.
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@vijayanths (7877)
• India
14 Oct 09
Dear Pose you are right that I differ from your thoughts on this. You say desire and fear are not connected. But you also accept that you desire for good health when you fear for the ill effects of illness.
We desire, this is the first step.
We fear that we may fail and our desire may not be fulfilled.
We become anxious and worried.
What is the remedy?
Total surrender to God-in other words full faith in life-good things only will happen to us, like that.
Total fearless life- when you are detached from worldly things, you will become fearless.
Am I right Pose?
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Vijay, I intrepret Pose's response as indeed in agreement to yours...meaning are not fear and desire connected? And concluding that yes they are and giving some good examples.
Blessings,
Karen
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
14 Oct 09
You yourself have given the answer in your topic--"Attachment" is the cause of worldly sorrows.THis attachment can be to anything and from here springs all the other qualities.It is very difficlut to live with a detached attachment and it needs tremendous discipline and selfcontrol to get this.For many of us, normal human beings it is not totally possible. I too constantly keep thinking that I should cultivate this but it is easier said than done.But, conscious efforts must be made for us to reach at least somewhere.
@vijayanths (7877)
• India
14 Oct 09
Yes kala, as you said preaching is easy but to practice, it is not.
The more I try to become detached from my dear ones, more I become attached to them, hehehehe.
But I am still trying to cultivate that habit, let us see what happens in future.
Will your family members mind if you live with detached attachment?
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
14 Oct 09
Sorrow is the antithesis of happiness, ironically the things that make a person happy are the same things that make him sad too. Being attached to someone we love makes us happy but the moment the attachment is broken, the happiness is turned to sorrow. Absolute detachment from everything is the answer as the wise men of old say but this is indeed difficult. At the end of the day, everything is in the mind and he who can control the inner workings of his mind is in a much better position to overcome sorrows.
have fun!
@vijayanths (7877)
• India
14 Oct 09
Very well said manong05. I am sure you had read many philosophical books and your response reflects your knowledge on philosophy. I liked your response very much. Pose, kala and you responding so beautifully and I am truly very happy to have you all here, thanks.
@Bluepatch (2476)
• Trinidad And Tobago
14 Oct 09
Worldly sorrows come from all the wrong things we do. If everyone did everything that was right then there would be nosorrow or even fear. These things come from wrongs, that which we know as sins. Sins are the defiant acts we commit when we disobey God. The law of God is written on men's hearts so we know that law no matter what we believe otherwise. When we disobey that law we create situations within ourselves and around us that bring sorrow and fear and all other bad kinds of stuff.
Its worth a thought, my friend.
@vijayanths (7877)
• India
14 Oct 09
I do agree with you that most of our present sorrows were caused by our mistakes. However some times we suffer even we don't commit any mistakes. Anyways I liked your response, it was a bit different and thought provoking.thanks Bluepatch.
@Khadimhussainsubhpot (106)
• Pakistan
13 Oct 09
Man is hasty and greedy by instinct. The more he gets, the more he wants. If two mountains turned into gold and given to him, he would crave for the third one. Only grave can fill his insatiable belly. Yes, I do agree with you that both desire and fear are very root causes of our all sorrows. Materialism has deprived us of real pleasure and natural beauty. The world is too much with us. The desire of accumulating more and more and the fear of losing it always keeps us anxious, apprehensive and restless, depriving us of sound sleep.Ironically, the comfort and calm man is strugging to get in his life is the very thing conspicuously missing.
@vijayanths (7877)
• India
14 Oct 09
well said Khadim, how are you? Long time since I last saw you here at Mylot.
Desire, fear that it may not be fulfilled, so become anxious it is a vicious circle.
@champrocker (879)
• India
14 Oct 09
From the perspective of a Human being the root cause for sorrow goes into desire . Desires are like the fantasies which a person chases endlessly and then when it seems a never ending run , it culminates into a chain of emotions leading to sorrows. I agree with you that we should practice for contentment and that can lead to a sort of peace and calmness in life.
@vijayanths (7877)
• India
14 Oct 09
Yes, champrocker. Now I know the root causes of my sorrows and the remedies as well. But to practice them in real life? that is too difficult for me.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
15 Oct 09
Hello :) This will vary, of course, from person to person, but I think that the root of most sorrows are these things: greed, hatred, lack of faith, and unreasonable expections of self, others, and life.
The Bible says that the LOVE of money (greed) is the root of all evil...not money itself, but the LOVE of it, wanting more more more, and using wicked or devious ways to obtain it.
Karen