What would you do if you discovered an illegal immigrant in your basement?

Brilliant wmraul, brilliant. First off though anyone who lands here going on about third world sensibilities will be confronted by the stark fact that an American would be perceived as an illeal immigrant in Greece, which turns those sensibilites round on their heads pretty sharply, but there have been a few sways away from the disclaimer. So you're telling me your parents emigrated to Romanina, was this by choice or by necessity, and now at the age of being old enough to tatto the back of your head, 44 if I recall, you still live in their basement, or spare bedroom more likely. Tell me I'm right wmraul, you do insist on being so crypic somethimes

hahahahahahhahahaha ROFLMAO !!! My dear thea .. hahahhahahahha, I cant stop laughing .. hahahahahha The only emigrant on my family was my father's grandfather who seems to have emigrated from Transilvanya (not part of Romania that so long a go) in Romania, Bucharest. No, my partents were romanians. Take all I said on my ansewer as a .. metaphore. "I live in my own basement ..." The duality of humans ...

And the avatar pic is not me. Is a random guy who tatooed on his neck: (end of head) (start of body) Within ~5 1/2 months I'll be 46

Two pertinent points I must make here...I own the Patent on "Sonic" varmint deflectors....or should, I have so many of them! I think the Rats like them, or liken them to the flute of the Pied Piper, as their deterrent effects are NIL! Second point, this is my house, I am supposed to be able to dine on/in my home...NOT have the illegals dining on me....spider bites hurt like HE$$! And, thirdly....wildlife is supposed to be outdoors! LOL! HUGZ, girls! And dear, Auntie Jo, I am a PACK RAT.....I don't PACK rats!

U leave all those 'varmits' at home when u come to visit.

Hello Shirley, may I recommend sconic devices for your basement or do the rats and mice not bother you? I woulnd't be without mine as would rather confront a snake than a mouse. I never think of my spiders as illegals as they all work very well for their keep and even provide their own food. They only require a civil good morning, panic if they have moved from their usual spot, in case they have been eaten, and a very cafeful brushing round now and again if the webs are getting too untidy and the prey looks a bit past its sell by date. You have a great day too.

she calls herself biddy-that's the funny thing! biddy can be a term of endearment sometimes..around here it also means "tiny cute elder" oh yes..she is more than enough..but really,safety is the issue with that one. we had some one try to squat in the garage one year-and he got quite violent when asked to leave.

Hi scarlet woman, I've only ever heard the word biddy as part of the term 'old biddy' to refer to a sort of annoying older woman, so I hope I'm not being insulting by making the presumption that the biddy is your mother with the hearing aid. I'm confused but again presuming that the biddy is more than enough illegals or legals for you so you really don't want anymore. If I'm completely wrong and you are insulted may I refer you back to the disclaimer,

Whew, that's a relief, I thought about deleting my post in case I was wrong and you'd avoid me for everymore. I'd completely forgotten about the endearing element of the word biddy as haven't heard it in years. After a bad experience with a squatter I'm not suprised you are careful now, after all there's all those slobs to consider too.

Don't forget the coffee.

Yep, and a brownie...

and a brownie

I do have a sense of humour - well developed over a life full of experiences - but I just cannot joke about this thea. I've seen it and it will stay with me forever. Please understand that I am not being political but I do feel the hurts of the world deeply. Sorry to be a pain today! I have fought for justice all of my life and will never give up. It just touched a nerve.

I am happy that you understand. The woman was about 6 months pregnant. To go back would mean being killed or life imprisonment. The fear on her face was horrible to see. I called my group and we managed to get them food and clothing etc and we also, within a week, got her baby clothing. She gave birth to twin girls a few months later. My friend gave them shelter and it turned out that the husband was very artistic and my friend has a hand -made pottery workshop and shop. So she employed them and moved them and their other two children into a small apartment on her land and the husband worked for my friend and he was so talented. so everything worked out well. They were an asset to the community.

That's a good ending then and a welcoming one. The economic immirants who come bearing scams and pressure from organised crime types back home are the ones I don't approve of and that we see most of. Genuine refugees fleeing danger is an entirely different story. Unfortuantely some are unable to distinguish between the two. But your example is a good one for those who lump immigrants into one boat. The constant complaint that its okay if they have papers and not ok if they don't I find ridiculous, as the ones that don't are more likely to be like your Hiaitin lady fleeging, and the ones that have are oftentimes the ones who have paid for falst papers to some gang member.

Hi shahrus, so you are taking the American approach I see, most excellent. It does rather sound as though you're expecting to find a married couple lurking in your basement as your job requirements are very high. I think you'll need to rule out the English literacy, otherwise they might get ideas from the news that they have rights, and possibly best to keep them hidden from certain guests in case they expct a bribe from you to keep quiet about your illegal. I hope you're willing to accept just one of the cooking styles and not expect all of them, but if he does offer all of them it is an indication that he is already used to the deportation system.

Why Sharus what lovely words, thanks. So glad I've hit the right note with responses before the political brigade land, if they are brave enough. A family might be too much, being such an altruistic type you'd have to provide education and their freinds might wonder why you insist in locking them up in the attic overnight. I see your point about looking to the future but you could be looking a bit too far and may be bordering on actual slavery.

A married couple wouldn't be too bad. An entire brood would be even better! That way, you can... ummm... talk pleasantly about guarantees! Convince them that only one should leave the house at a time (like going shopping), to minimize the chances of all being caught. After all, what family likes to be separated!? And I do form such intense attachments! (see previous post about my inherently loving and compassionate nature) I must hand it to you for coming up with great ideas! You're the best! Now, excuse me while I run up to my attic to check! Who knows? Christmas may come early to this non-Christian household of mine!

Hi James, I see you've rather got the point of this and really most handy indeed that your basement happens to be handily big enough to set up a sweatshop (sorry factory) for them to be exploited in (sorry work at leisure in comfortable surroundings) for many happy years to come (if the blackmarket stays healthy).

You really aren't fussy where you swim to are you Mr Misterwit, Sunday it was Greece, now its Australia. They have sharks in their waters though so if you swim that way use plenty of shampoo, I 'd hate for you to be eaten on the way.

Hi manong, an interesting approach to an alien in your basement. So a breaking in intruder presumably with suspicious intentions to steal whatever you keep in the basement would be reported to the police but an illegal immigrant would be treated with tolerance and food. If this discussion attracts the political brigade over it will be good to be able to refer them to your box for a think.

U may be right. I would have been proud to have had them when the rapist was on the prowl.

Any date for a trial yet on that one, I'd be interested to hear what happens.

Hi Aunty, with the trouble you've had in your town and house this year I'm not suprised, so there could be extra benefits to your sons dogs being around. There are some really funny answers from some of the others.

If someone was in need I would never turn anyone away we are all human and all need help at some point.

Hi suzzy, I've noticed with these responses that almost all the women have advocate a more cautious approach, not really because of any illegal immigrant possibility, but more to do with having a stranger on the property and putting safety precautions first. There is a debate within the discussion which is not about the nationality but just precaution against a stranger.

Hello Sandra, glad that like most you read the disclaimer here. I must say you're more than generous splitting all that work between 3 illegals, one overleaf had one doing everything. I think I'd be tempted to follow your lead here but unlike you I don't have a basement. Make sure they insualte that well by the way, I wouldn't touch one here as it would either flood and then smell bad all year, or have permanent rising mould which is a devil to deal with, saying that if I did nad it was you could send one of your illegals round with some bleach and elbow grease. I'm not sure of the consquences here of actually having illegals working for one - I do know that I did once appear with my camera on a building site to obtain a picture of the plot there were 6 men working when I arrived and only 2 remaining by the time the camera was seen. I presume the crime is there's and there is no offence by the one who gives work. It is an offence to not pay insurance for a legal immigrant if he is on the payroll but many get round that one too. Presumabely by that same token the man with the stables isn't committing a reportable offence, and I would have expected any illegal to be demanding daily wages anyway. Very odd that they'd be willing to wait in the first place.

They don't do much here with them as I presume the mainly builders who employ them bribe who ever is in charge of the building permits who then puts pressure somewhere else. When they become too much of a crime nusiance with complaints about them they have a regular sweep up but it doesn't seem to make much difference and I don't believe that any particular effort was put into solving the murder within their community. But it reiterates the problem I outlined to Alice that sometimes it is better to give some thought to where one goes and not land on a country where one is despised and in return despise the country they land in. Not the most harmonious of moves. On the whole though I'd say apart from one county the Greek people are friendly and welcoming to most others.

Hello again. I never knew you were a magician, making a lot of men disappear with one flash - of the camera, of course! I presume illegals are a bit more reticent here because they don't want to be hauled in by the Spanish police. They wouldn't get the soft treatment here that illegals receive in the UK.

Hi Letran, who said anything about illegals being from third world countries, they can be from any country if its illegal for them to be there. An American would be an illegal alien in Greece without the right visa stamped in his passport and after that would be out of here as in deported. Notifying the authorities would be a good move for anyone who had someone ringing their doorbell, I'd be tempted if they were illegal or not, so its fortuante that I don't have a doorbell. But I'd be suspicious of a stranger not bearing a Greek face turning up on my doorstep as its impossible to find and a long way for screams to be heard from, unless the chap from Athens who neighours neaby is home and is very good at killing things with a shovel.

A dangerous snake which was inside my house, upstairs. I alerted him with my screams as I didn't want to take my eyes of the creature in case it hid in a dark corner. I was most happy to be rescued by a shovel wielding Athenian I can tell you. Now I must away to cook with olive oil but will return.

I don't have a basement

Hi nautilus, welcome from Bulgaria. I like your approach and it is more welcoming and enquiring than that from many richer nations, maybe those from from the eastern countries have more empathy with the situation, and more concern. It's nice that you wouldn't turn him in but feed him.

Hi Zandhi, I see you read the pe disclaimer for a light hearted approach. This was put in as their have been many intolerant rants over the immigration issue in the last couple of weeks on here. Saying that I do appreciate your points and you seem to have the same issue that I do with problems arising from an illegal group arriving from a neighbouring country. If they came for exile and wish to become responsible citizens then fine, if they come to a country they hate with not a sinlge show of respect for the people there or their traditions please go elsewehere.

Hahhahah.. you are so right, Thea... no basement..

Hi zed, another safety first but understandable as you have your aged parents to consider here and any danger to them. Don't tell me zed I've guessed, no basement.

Hi Amber, this seems to be the standard womanly response here, personal safety and potential danger put first, the illegal status of little actual concern.Entirely understandable

Well I couldn't exploit them because throughout history immigrants have been exploited in the US. I would hope we would speak the same language because communication would be very difficult if not. They would defiantly have to find some means of supporting themselves and not be bothered by the hurt duck currently living in the basement LOL

I think you should establish if they are likely to tend to the hurt duck or eat the hurt duck before you allow any basement lingering.

Hi Zeph, we're in pe, you can make any daft thing up and no ones allowed to rant. There's quite a bit of exploitiation going on above you but no deportions so far or reportings. I didn't realise though you could get into trouble for one being in your basement, I thought only the illegal would be in trouble.

Actually thats a nice summary there Charilies, it basically sums up the attitude of accepting those who wish to integrate and separating ourselves from the ones who choose to threaten our way of life and customs. Good answer.

Hi daliaj, good for you not becoming a police informant. You can always report him if he's up to criminal activity but if he shows how to live in your basement in a nice way and you don't mind having him there then his starus is immaterial.