"interracial couple denied marriage license in Louisiana"
By Ravenladyj
@Ravenladyj (22902)
United States
October 16, 2009 4:59am CST
this just blows my mind!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff
A JP (justice of the peace) in La. is denying an interracial couple a marriage license and admits that "he asks everyone who calls about marriage if they are a mixed race couple. If they are, he does not marry them" BUT also claims he isnt a racist....IMO that IS being somewhat of a racist....In the article he is quoted as saying his reason for refusing to marry interracial couples is out of concern for the any children the couple may have together..because...."There is a problem with both groups accepting a child from such a marriage," Bardwell said. "I think those children suffer and I won't help put them through it."...Well this may be somewhat true HOWEVER...how can society move forward when there are ppl such as this JP who are holding our advancement up???? If its REALLY that much of a concern for him, why not work towards making it more acceptable...
BRAVO IMO to the couple in question for going to someone else AND looking into a possible discrimination case against this guy!
So whats your feelings on the subject? Do you think the JP is being unfair? How do you feel about interracial couples and marriages and why do you feel the way you do?
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21 responses
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Wow! I don't know where to start with my comments to the stupidity and ignorance of this man! First, who believe that men and women that aren't married are not intimate? If I remember correctly, things happen before marriage and there are a lot of children born out of wedlock. Is this guy living in the 50's?Next who is to say this couple will even have children? The guy won't marry them because of something that MIGHT happen? Well he may turn purple tomorrow and grow horns with a tail, should we put him in a pen today and tie him up, just in case.
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@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
17 Oct 09
Well he may turn purple tomorrow and grow horns with a tail, should we put him in a pen today and tie him up, just in case
holy crap that made me laugh!! and you are so right!!
@suchi60 (912)
• India
17 Oct 09
In the first place, its none of the JPs business to counsel people on what they should or shouldn't do. Secondly, none asked him for his opinion, so he should have shut his mouth and got the ceremony over, and thirdly, if he thinks that he's being considerate, he better jump his current job and get into running a matrimoinal agency. He calls himself a JP? If this isn't discrimination and racist, what is?
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@danishcanadian (28953)
• Canada
17 Oct 09
This one really hit the headlines, and is being blogged about in all kinds of different places. If this were to happen to my husband and I, I would do the same thing.
Hey, I just thought of something. To those racists out there who also don't condone gay marriage, if one should "stick to his own kind" doesn't that mean a man ought to marry a man, and doesn't "stick to her own kind" mean a woman shall only marry a woman?" LOL
Let 'em chew on that one for a while. LOL
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
19 Oct 09
When I heard about this, I was outraged. It's 2009. Not 1959. Is this person stupid or something? You're an elected official and you commit a clearly illegal act. Doesn't it occur to you that the couple you offended and denied their legal rights is going to report you to someone? I hope they throw the book at him and that he never gets to marry another couple. There's no space for people like this person in our public office system. I really want to find out these people's address and send them a card with some sort of message apologizing and saying that we're not all like that. But, of course, you can't find out their address. Probably a good thing since if you could people like this man could also find them. Even as I dictate this, I'm still angry.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
23 Oct 09
The woman is white trash and the man is n-i-g-ge-r trash.
you talk like that yet you claim you have black friends
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
23 Oct 09
I just want everyone to know that the person who replied to my post is, I think, a fairly horrible person, and I do not encourage him to talk like that. Sorry everyone. I wish myLot had a delete function. Which, as you know, isn't something I commonly say. This person needs to grow up and learn how adult people communicate. Once again, I apologize.
@cripfemme (7698)
• United States
25 Oct 09
Just because some people call themselves that doesn't mean it's okay to say, especially not by a white person. I don't like it. Please refrain from using the sort of language when replying to onw of my discussions,
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
17 Oct 09
Yes. Frankly if I ever encountered someone like that I would bring a lawsuit against them and ruin the rest of their natural lives. I would never have been married at all if it weren't an 'interracial marriage'. I don't even think such a term should exist because it doesn't MATTER. I'd sign a petition against the JP just on principle itself. I saw this article this morning on my yahoo page and I was just FLOORED.
@mommaj (23112)
• United States
17 Oct 09
The term interracial marriage is an interesting description of marriages. I wonder if there was a term for different religions marrying? And dear Lord, don't forget about all of us southerners who married a yankee or a "damn" yankee, shouldn't we have had a name for our marriage, too? I would also like to know if the marriages that were between different social classes had a name. All those different types of marriages were frowned on. Yet somehow they didn't destroy our society. Well maybe a few of the yankees politened up and some of us southerners started talking faster, but other than that I think everything worked out. LOL
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
18 Oct 09
Well that's the thing. To me it can be harder on a couple if they are inter-cultural - meaning from two different cultures where each lives a different way. I can tell you that my husband and I live exactly the same way and always have, we eat the same stuff, we speak english (duh) lol. It can also be hard for people if they have two very different religions, especially if the differences are in direct opposition to each other. We have like... no religion so it doesn't even come up for us.
In perspective though, something such as 'different races' don't necessarily include ANYTHING DIFFERENT in the way you live, what you like, what you do, what you talk about, what you believe, your goals, etc. I swear people just get shallower and shallower, why the heck does everything always boil down to what you look like? And if it isn't what people look like, it's MONEY. If we'd all been born beautiful and rich, I'm sure petty humans would still find SOMETHING to have an insane gigantic fit about.
@missliss08 (766)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Not only is he being unfair, but he is playing judge, and jury to people who commit no crime. It is not against the law to be an interracial couple, and how dare he think he is all wise and knowing to say these children will suffer. The children born to these couples would never suffer if this ignorance that still plagues this society was not here
@missliss08 (766)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Plus just denying them a marriage license will most definitely not stop them from having children. Really does this man live in the stone ages. People have children out of wed lock every day.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
17 Oct 09
And something like this would serve to make even fewer people actually get married and more people just simply live together. Commonlaw is still recognized in some places, and people will do whatever they want if they want to badly enough. it doesn't matter who has their head up their @$$ lol.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
18 Oct 09
I think this fellow is entitled to his opinions and I think they have value. let the couple go elsewhere. As for stopping things from moving forward, I think suing the fellow is the most backward scenario here. Too many things are being blown out of proportion these days.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Oct 09
I have heard so many people share that same concern for the children as this judge. Still, like you said, how are we ever going to move forward if we stay stuck in the same old thinking? We can't. I am glad this couple is going after this judge. Being a judge is he allowed to act on his personal opinions like that?
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Oct 09
I think that that JP is really stupid and so unfair. all of the interracial marriages I have seen seemed to me to be working out
quite nicely. the couples were happy, they had well behaved kids, and I never heard any complaints from them or from others about them.. If two people love each other enough,no racial differences are going to matter a hill of beans.
@gwoman2 (710)
• United States
16 Oct 09
gosh are we not in the 21st century? This judge should be ashamed of himself! All the struggle for equality and now this...I think he's got a loose screw...and I also think what he is doing is against the law, anywhere!!
Yes he is being unfair but more than that HE IS A RACIST...no doubt about it!
He should not be a judge of any kind!!
Doesn't he think that people who enter into an interracial marriage know what their headed for...I don't think they were thinking about colors or race when they fell in love.
I watched an episode of Little House on The Prarie where Mrs. Olsen was treating a little boy terribly because not only was he blind, he was also African American, until she overheard him talking to Mr. Ingals or a friend of Ingals, and he was asking, "what is different between black and white"...his own response was very touching...he said, "there is no difference between black and white those are only colors!" I am amazed and appalled to hear this story...black, white, yellow, brown whatever!!
~G~
@kprofgames (3091)
• United States
12 Nov 09
Don't have a problem with two people getting married BECAUSE I see them as two people wanting to get married! I'm glad they are filing a case against this because it is discrimination.
I don't get it. You know I live in a rural area and while we were raised in communities that were pretty isolated we still don't put a 'label' on a person. Geez what year is it anyway.
@Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
16 Oct 09
I didn't think this kind of stuff still existed in this country..WOW..when is Louisiana going to become more humanized....Sad!
@faikeijames (247)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Yeah, I read this too. This is a form of racism in my opinion. Look around, there are sooooo many races mixed with other races. Indian/Blacks...Blacks/Whites....Whites/Asian...Hispanic/black...the combinations are endless. My grandson is Black and El Salvadorian and I love him regardless!!!!
@hexeduser22 (7419)
• Philippines
16 Oct 09
I think he has some points with regards to the children but I can tell he is definitely sick. He's being unfair and is not really helping them. I could tell he is a hypocrite and he even betray his own words. Everyone is created equal so everyone has the right to be married, no matter what the color of your skin, just as long as you love each other.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
17 Oct 09
I think he has some points with regards to the children
Just out of curiousity...what points does he have in your opinion in regards the any possible children?
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
16 Oct 09
Hi Ravenladyji, I also agree with you on this one and see nothing wrong with interracial marriage. One of my sons, and we are of the Angle Saxon white race whose forefathers came from England, is married to a Filipino and a they have a very beautiful daughter. I think that the JP is thinking that the young people of today have the same racist attitude as his generation, and I don't believe that to be true. I'm happy that they didn't let this man stop them from getting married. Blessings.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
16 Oct 09
Perhaps it is like that in La. however I assumed we were long past that type of racism. I know back in the days of segragation then a child of mixed races would have a difficult time fitting in... but these days there are thousands of people who are of mixed races and they have very few problems. My oldest son is of mixed race and we live in a very small, very white, rural community. We've never once had a problem, dirty look, or question about his race. Never once!!
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
16 Oct 09
this is sad that in our great country there is still racest crap. we all are God's chrildren
@hvedra (1619)
•
16 Oct 09
I could tell you what I think of the JP but I'd probably break the f on my keyboard!
His excuse that he is protecting any "children" is also laughable. Who says they will have any? How does he know that they will encounter problems (oh, yeah, people like him make _sure_ they will....). Does he imagine that any mixed race couple will split just because he says he won't marry them? They'll find someone who will marry them - or just live as if married. He's a really arrogant idiot if he thinks his refusal is stronger than their feelings for each other. Does he really imagine that anyone thinks "well, that JP says so, so it must be so"? What?
If two people love each other and want to make a commitment like marriage then they should be allowed to do so.
@good2go2001 (915)
• United States
16 Oct 09
I think that City needs to hire another JP that has more open views to handle these types of marriages. I dont feel its right to discriminate and there needs to be other options provided so that its not a issue for mixed race couples. Its not fair to provide the service to only certain couples and not fair that this couple had to go elsewhere to get the service. Very concerning that this type of thinking would be still happening in todays times.