Hooray, I got my house refinanced! But my neighbor can't get his refinanced..
By dragon54u
@dragon54u (31634)
United States
October 21, 2009 7:44am CST
I cut my mortgage payment just about in half a couple days ago. I wasn't sure if I should do this, as my ex is taking me to court to reduce his obligation to me and this will affect the judgment. However, I believe things are going to get worse instead of better and anything I can do to reduce my expenses will let me be more financially stable. His situation won't get much better, either, so I think it was a good idea. As there are no jobs here and not much prospect, I think I did the right thing.
My neighbor, however, can't get his bank to refinance his house even though he has excellent credit and has had the same well-paying job for ten years. They'll do it if he's 3 months behind in his payments but not before that. If he did that, it would ruin his credit! I do not understand this reasoning. If they would refinance his house they'd be almost guaranteed he won't default on the loan. If they don't they're taking a chance that he will.
Banks and mortgage companies are really screwy these days when they won't help people who truly want to meet their obligations but will loan to people who can't possibly keep up the payments.
Have you recently refinanced? Or have you been denied because you're a responsible person and keep your payments current?
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@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
21 Oct 09
Weve refinanced before. I was hoping to do it again with rates being soooo low! However, the news kept saying it's going below 4 htis spring! Well it didn't at my lender but it would of been enough to refi & make it worth wild when it was down to 4.3 but I kept hoping for lower & never did go lower. But I called and asked since it was a point below what we were paying & it would only save me $86/mo wich would be helpful but not enough to go thru the hassel of refi'n. So I just keep watching......
I agree that's BS about the not helping people refi @ a decent rate til they are behind. I think their big problem is that if you refi with the same place they make less money on your loan, even though their liablity would be less should you default.
On a similar note I wanted to re-fi our van. A CU not far from here was @ 4.99% our van is @ 7.5%, I was thinking WOW we could save some big $$ & pay it off sooner ect. We were denied because they would not take my varying schedule & his 2 days a month of mandatory overtime into account. The place we have the loan thru won't refi their own loans... so now I have felt ripped off about this whole thing! Especially since dh was able to go in upside down (yea not happy abt that) on a truck around the same time w/o any problems with one of those big banks that cried to Uncle Sam for bail out $$.
I DON"T GET IT!
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Oct 09
I don't get it, either. It seems like all the common sense that used to be in the banking industry has been thrown out the window. "Safe" is no longer a benchmark and hedging their bets by putting borrowers in a better position is considered foolhardy.
I think they'll get a big surprise in the next year as things get worse and worse. Did you know that every minute, 3 houses go into foreclosure?! You'd think they would want to take preventative steps!
@3SnuggleBunnies (16374)
• United States
21 Oct 09
I realized it was pretty fast going as far as the foreclosures go but that's insane. But that should bring a light bulb on in someones head that maybe this trade agreements between Asia and USA are not good. Places are closing left and right. Even pinning state against state to keep a company from closing up shop in one & moving to the other just to keep jobs. Something has to give! We have to have the next "boom" in something to create more jobs. I know they wanted to do all this bridges & hwy improvments as part of the stimulus but are these companies that get the contracts hiring people who are new to the field? I think that's one of the differences as well, jobs used to hire people and train them... now you are competing with places that require 4yr degree just to be the receptionist
I'm still really urked about my van though... cause once that's paid off I want to start working on upgrades on my house. But I can't pay for those if I still have this van payment. A balance transfer to my credit card would be cheaper, but we opted out on our credit card cause they jacked up everyones rates this past January. So after next year we won't have a credit card just another loan *sigh*
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
22 Oct 09
I didn't know that it can be so complicated. I think nowadays, the process of buying and selling house can become so hard and complex that I think if anything, it's best to rent an apartment because of the refinance part. If it's so hard to get a refinance, I can't imagine how...
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
23 Oct 09
That's just so cool.
You are a very good and kind-heart person to stick up to your neighbor like that should anything happens.
When you put it in words like that, the process looks easy. But I know there are lots of steps...the most important thing is able to get the house refinanced. Congrats again, I'm sure you are in cloud 9 with this. Home sweet home..
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
22 Oct 09
Thank you, zed! It is indeed a relief to get my payments lowered so that I can save more money for the inevitable rainy day. It really didn't take much, I called my mortgage holder and went in the next day--read and signed some papers and that was it. They already knew my credit score, etc. and I have never had a late payment.
But you are right, an apartment is better right now because of the declining economy. It will get worse before it gets better. Rent, save as much money as possible, get out of debt as much as you can and don't use credit cards. Stock up on canned food if you can, and bottled water. When the big mess comes, gold will be worth nothing but food and water will.
I did get off on a tangent, didn't I? But we all need to start planning for the worst and that's why I refinanced. If my neighbor loses his house, he'll be invited to mine. We all stick together here!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Oct 09
hi dragon54u I am so glad to hear you did get your mortgage
payment cut in half, thats really great. as for your neighbor'
that is so silly but it seems they are doing that all over
the US its so sad now to see empty houses along the streets with foreclosed signs on them when is this bad economy going to'change, is Obama ever going to do anything to help reverse
things?We now are clear out of the picture.I am in a retirement center, my son in a gov.sponsored apt so he and his three men roommates can have an address as they hunt for jobs. this economy has split up families, and put people out of their homes. when will it end?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Oct 09
It won't end soon, my friend. Hunker down and save all you can!
In my case, it may be bringing families together. I have a nephew down in Georgia that lost his job months ago and they're making do on his wife's part time job. He and his wife and young son might be coming up here for the duration if things don't get better. Which is fine with me, one of the reasons I bought this house was as a gathering place/refuge for my family.
We are the new "peasants". Remember Marie Antoinette saying "let them eat cake" when told her people didn't have bread? That's our administration--this one and the previous ones!
I wish your son and his friends good fortune in looking for work. I wish I could be optimistic but I don't see it getting better anytime soon.
@just4you0 (421)
• India
21 Oct 09
i am confused if you are happy for your house refinanced or your neighbor's getting rejected, lol. i think banks only help genuine people so you deserve it. well, i am student so i dont have any tension of all these things but i have think about it as i cant remain dependent on my parents whole life. cheers!!!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
22 Oct 09
I'm very happy about my refinancing but I'm rather upset that my neighbor can't get it. I have wonderful neighbors and don't want to lose any of them. While he isn't in danger of losing his house, he would be able to put more money in savings if he could refinance. Savings is what comes to our rescue when we hit a bad spot--not the government or a social program, but our own pre-planning. So that's why we each wanted to refinance our houses. I hope he can get a refinance plan!
@artistry (4151)
• United States
21 Oct 09
...Hi dragon54u, Good for you and smart, to reduce your debt. Takes some of the pressure off. Your friend is a victim of doing what he should have done or been able to do, that is to pay his mortgage on time. The programs are set up to help those who are delinquent or in jeopardy of losing their homes. Those who are good credit risks, are at the bottom of the refinance barrel, because banks are holding on to the money that they have, due to tight economic conditions and also because the Federal Reserve has tighter lending requirements. Credit has to be more loose, before the flow of money starts up again, for those who are credit worthy. Take care.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
21 Oct 09
My neighbor is able to pay his mortgage but like me, he is trying to reduce all his payments as much as possible in order to put more money in the bank as savings. We both are sure things are going to get very, very bad and we will need all the money we can save! I hope he can find refinancing soon. We both want to be independent and not have to depend on anyone when times get worse. Thanks for your input!
@artistry (4151)
• United States
21 Oct 09
....Hi dragon54u, Good luck to you and your neighbor. He should keep trying to find a company that will refinance his mortgage. It's not impossible. A small regional bank could be the answer, as the government is trying to help the small banks so they can lend out money. The larger banks are hoarding their money. Take care.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
22 Oct 09
Thanks, Artistry! Yes, the big banks are hoarding OUR money and it makes me so angry. He will be calling my mortgage guy, maybe he can get it that way. I hope you have a wonderful day!