i sincerely apologize..........
By Sweetchariot
@Sweetchariot (1718)
United States
October 23, 2009 1:56pm CST
To begin with, I want everyone to know that this discussion has been posted in the categories of "Christian", "Believers", and "Religion"...all 3. You will understand why, after reading below. However, I fully understand that 2 of these 3 postings may be deleted because of duplication...but I hope all 3 will not be.
So...with this in mind, let me continue.
I am a Christian...I believe in God, the Father, God the Son, Jesus Christ, and I believe in the Holy Spirit. I am also a Christian who believes in the teachings of The Catholic Church.
With this said...I want to apologize for any time that I have criticized your beliefs, your unbeliefs, your God, your religious or non-religious practices, your search for the truth, or your acceptance of some other higher power, other than mine.
That is not my intentions, and I wanted only to share the joy in my life with others. However, in doing so, I have assumed that you do not have the same joy in yours. By assuming that, is very wrong of me. I should not judge your way, anymore than I want you to judge mine.
Unfortunately, the categories of "Christian", "Religions", and "Believer" have made it easy for mylotters to come in use this site as a pulpit, a podium, or a stage to get their message across. However, in doing so, we have opened up the world for multiple debates that often lead to sarcasm, anger, judgement, accusations, and all other negative flaws that we really don't want to display to each other, but inevitably do in this type of discussions.
These sites should be used to reflect our beliefs, not battle it out, with words that attack. While we share with one another our source of our beliefs, we should be displaying the actions of that so called belief, rather than fighting with words. While a healthy debate can be a good thing, a debate always calls for some persuasion, and emotions get involved.
So, For me, before I respond to any discussion in these categories, I will fully critique my response, to be sure that it reflects what I believe, and I will refuse to respond to any derogatory discussion, response, or remark that go against the act of a Christian. I am not here to argue the truth, I am not here to proudly proclaim that my beliefs are the right ones, and look down on others that do not share my view...rather I only want to share my opinions.
Therefore I ask all of you, that when reading my responses or discussions, to remember that they are only my opinions, and in no way am I trying to persuade you to come to my side. And if I unknowingly offend you in my response, please let me know, so I can apologize for the way I expressed my self. There are at times I should use a B*tch check, to see how responses can be portrayed...sometimes I am not aware of how it can come across.
Thank you, and I hope these categories can used in a positive way, rather than a place to make a stand, regardless of whom we hurt along the way. This is no way to reflect the way of a Christian.
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3 responses
@Harley009 (1416)
• India
8 Nov 09
Nice in sharing your views.
However I have got some questions regarding Bible & Christianity. Will you be able to answer those with proofs from Bible? Can I ask here?
@Harley009 (1416)
• India
11 Nov 09
pheonixlexy,
I'm thinking whether I need to sincerely apologize for what I wrote in the sincerely apologize discussion 
Frist Reason why I wrote Bible verses are because the topic starter was a sincere christian. As she wanted to share her joy in belief in Christianity, I was just trying to make Christians think that, what the Christians believe are going hand in hand with Bible or not.
Now, to your main question:-
Islam (Peace in Submission to God) was the way of life which God prescribed for humans since the beginning. God conveyed the message to human kind through some of the chosen people called as 'Prophets'. eg. Adam, Idris, Noah, Abraham, David, Solomon, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, etc. First prophet was Adam and Last prophet was Mohammad. Our creator The Almighty God conveyed the same basic message to all of these prophets. But there was some changes in the rules and regulations depending on the development and kind of generations.
God describes in Quran about 4 holy revelations by name revealed to 4 messengers of God.
1. Zabur (Psalms) to Dawud(David)
2. Taurat (torah) to Musa (Moses)
3. Injeel (Gospel) to Iesa (Jesus)
4. Quran to Mohamamd.
The final edition of the revelations of God 'Quran' was revealed to the Final messenger of God 'Mohammad' which agree with the above revelations with changes in some rules and regulations so that it could be applicable to whole humanity until the end.
So we accept the above revelations with changes or rules mentioned in the final edition of revelation, however the messages of all those revelations are almost mentioned in Quran. and real stories of previous prophets also mentioned in Quran, Especially about Jesus and his mother mary. There is a chapter 'Maryam' (Mary) in Quran. Quran exists in it's Original language without any change in a word. And Arabic is a very good living language still.
BUT, The Bible available today does not depict those actual words of God revealed. There are lot of living examples for it. Just check the Christian Bible, it contains only very less percentage of sayings of even Jesus. Remaining all are writings, letters, and features of apostles etc.
Also you can see Bible keep on changing time to time, Check different versions of Bible, some are different in Chapter itself, some Bible don't have some verses that exists in other, some meanings are much different from one version to another.
The main dogma of Christianity is Trinity, the word Trinity doesn't exists in Bible.
Again But, We still believe that the Bible and Torah available today are the remainders of those revelations given by God, but not exactly as God's word, so some verses may be the words (not exactly though) of God and some verses not. The Bible verses I mentions in my last reply was mostly matching with the Quran. So there is no harm in believing in those verses for me.
So the existence of Christians, Jews and Bible are the strengthening proof of Islam. And Islam is the only religion that acknowledge the faith in Jesus Christ.
I had to explain more to clear the idea, sorry for going so far away.
Frist Reason why I wrote Bible verses are because the topic starter was a sincere christian. As she wanted to share her joy in belief in Christianity, I was just trying to make Christians think that, what the Christians believe are going hand in hand with Bible or not.
Now, to your main question:-
Islam (Peace in Submission to God) was the way of life which God prescribed for humans since the beginning. God conveyed the message to human kind through some of the chosen people called as 'Prophets'. eg. Adam, Idris, Noah, Abraham, David, Solomon, Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, etc. First prophet was Adam and Last prophet was Mohammad. Our creator The Almighty God conveyed the same basic message to all of these prophets. But there was some changes in the rules and regulations depending on the development and kind of generations.
God describes in Quran about 4 holy revelations by name revealed to 4 messengers of God.
1. Zabur (Psalms) to Dawud(David)
2. Taurat (torah) to Musa (Moses)
3. Injeel (Gospel) to Iesa (Jesus)
4. Quran to Mohamamd.
The final edition of the revelations of God 'Quran' was revealed to the Final messenger of God 'Mohammad' which agree with the above revelations with changes in some rules and regulations so that it could be applicable to whole humanity until the end.
So we accept the above revelations with changes or rules mentioned in the final edition of revelation, however the messages of all those revelations are almost mentioned in Quran. and real stories of previous prophets also mentioned in Quran, Especially about Jesus and his mother mary. There is a chapter 'Maryam' (Mary) in Quran. Quran exists in it's Original language without any change in a word. And Arabic is a very good living language still.
BUT, The Bible available today does not depict those actual words of God revealed. There are lot of living examples for it. Just check the Christian Bible, it contains only very less percentage of sayings of even Jesus. Remaining all are writings, letters, and features of apostles etc.
Also you can see Bible keep on changing time to time, Check different versions of Bible, some are different in Chapter itself, some Bible don't have some verses that exists in other, some meanings are much different from one version to another.
The main dogma of Christianity is Trinity, the word Trinity doesn't exists in Bible.
Again But, We still believe that the Bible and Torah available today are the remainders of those revelations given by God, but not exactly as God's word, so some verses may be the words (not exactly though) of God and some verses not. The Bible verses I mentions in my last reply was mostly matching with the Quran. So there is no harm in believing in those verses for me.
So the existence of Christians, Jews and Bible are the strengthening proof of Islam. And Islam is the only religion that acknowledge the faith in Jesus Christ.
I had to explain more to clear the idea, sorry for going so far away.@Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
8 Nov 09
Will be glad to give you any feedback that you would like, just post it here, and I will respond...however, you may want to make your questions a topic for discussion. Just list your questions, and those who are interested will answer you.
Keep in mind, that while you may be looking for proof for every response you get, there may be at times we cannot provide you that, for faith is believing in something we not always have proof of.
In addition, keep in mind that I am from the Catholic Religion...while we are Christians, not everyone agrees with the Catholic Point of view...therefore I will respond to what I believe and not necessarily what you want to hear.
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@pheonixlexy (4)
• France
10 Nov 09
Hi Harley,
Very nice to see your comments, I have only one doubt, can you please answer ?
Do you believe in the verses from bible you quoted here ?
Bless you harley, Thanking you for caring enough to write this.
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You are to be commended! @Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
24 Oct 09
No...not at all...I had to do it for myself so I will remain on track when I am in those discussion rooms. There are many times I would like to take out the Boxing gloves, but I know that that kind of repsonse is not going to help anyone find the truth. lol
Thanks
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
23 Oct 09
Can you really expect people to discuss anything and never have any DRAMA?? We as humans can get pretty emotional but it seems most will think as well if not later. Interaction between all people is learning for all. I think you really have nothing to be sorry for. If you ever comment on any of my discussions, I would rather have the real you than one walking on eggshells. That also goes for anyone who shows up at my door. I know you are a great person for your kindness is showing.
@Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
24 Oct 09
Thank you for the compliment! Fortunately, when we have heated discussions, especially when it comes to various beliefs, it can reflect negatively on that person, actually the opposite of what they should reflect. And it does make our beliefs look rather phoney...after all, we should be practicing what we preach..lol
