Ed Show Question: Does Lieberman Want Obama to Fail?
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
October 27, 2009 8:24pm CST
Tonight's text survey question on The Ed Show was "Does Joe Lieberman want President Obama to fail?" Lieberman had announced today that he'll work with the Republicans to prevent the health care bill to go to a vote, choosing to support the health insurance cartel instead of the people of his state, 68% of whom support the public option. I've said before that it's his right to vote however he wishes on any bill but to prevent it from getting to be voted on is another matter.
The results of the text survey were as follows - 95% said "Yes" and 5% said "No". (By the way, yes, I know most of the viewers of The Ed Show are likely fairly liberal so the results are no real surprise just as it was no surprise when viewers of Fox News overwhelmingly believed Sarah Palin won the V.P. debate...wink...lol!)
What say you?
Annie
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5 responses
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
28 Oct 09
Which healthcare bill would that be? There are still two of them aren't there? Or have they already been merged? If it's a crap bill, I want Obama to fail in getting it passed.
About this whole "wanting him to fail thing" in general. Lets get something straight. What this means is those of us who want him to "fail", actually want him to fail at GETTING HIS POLICIES ENACTED, as we believe they are polices that will cause the country to fail.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Oct 09
The Senate bill they've been working on for several days. There were two in the Senate and now they've been put into one. This discussion isn't about whether YOU want Obama or his policies or a particular proposal to fail, it's about how you would have answered a specific question asked on TV this evening. You really can't speak for everyone else, X, so how do you know what others who oppose him really want?
Annie
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
28 Oct 09
That's the standard response - liberals can't believe that Americans overwhelmingly don't want this health care bill so it must be that we all are against Obama personally. Not agreeing with the president's policies is not akin to being un-American. Demanding anyone who doesn't agree just shut up, is un-American, but that's exactly what Obama said he wanted.
"But I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess." Barack Obama
He doesn't want dissenting opinions heard. That's un-American.
The "wanting him to fail" is their way of making our opinions somehow malicious in nature. They just want us to shut up, too.
@evanslf (484)
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28 Oct 09
I don't know whether Lieberman wants Obama to succeed or not - what we can say is that he wanted Obama to fail to get elected but he didn't have much joy there. If I were Obama, I would simply not give Lieberman too much time of day. OK, he is the 60th vote so could be useful in some instances in the future, even if that is not the case on healthcare. The main thing to realise is that Lieberman is no friend of Obama and Obama and the Dems should get out of him what they can - ie if they can get him to vote 75-80% of the time with them, then that's the best that they can reasonably expect. On all accounts, the Dems should never fall into the trap of relying on his vote! I think Lieberman is a classic case of 'its better having him in the (dem) tent pissing out instead of outside the tent pissing in'!
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Oct 09
It seems that the alleged 75-80% of his votes that are with the Democrats aren't for anything important the past couple years. I like your classic case of 'its better having him in the (dem) tent pissing out instead of outside the tent pissing in' but what about the third alternative - being in the tent pissing ON everyone else in there...lol?
Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
28 Oct 09
If Lieberman wanted Obama to fail he wouldn't have voted for the porkulus bill now would he Annie? It baffles me how the second someone, who regularly votes democrat, opposes one piece of crap bill, Obama's minions try to demonize him by saying he wants Obama to fail. Newsflash, not everything is about Obama. After all, Obama was too lazy or ignorant to write this bill anyway. He's just blindly supporting whatever comes out of the house and senate. I'm sure you don't believe he's actually reading these bills.
@amyjolenesmith (21)
• United States
29 Oct 09
Maybe he just voted for it to help set Obama up to fail. hmmm.... the conspiracy gets deeper.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
28 Oct 09
Maybe Lieberman is just voting his conscience. I realize that in this administration that's considered treasonous. You say that the people of his state support the public option and yet he doesn't. What about all those congressmen who support the public option when the people they represent don't? That's alright, isn't it?
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Oct 09
His conscience...roflmfao!! More like his bank account since the health insurers are his primary campaign donors. Also, how about the fact that he's always been against filibusters in general, yet now he's going to participate basically "because he can"? I guess his conscience tells him it's more important for the insurers to get what amounts to a huge bailout and tons of corporate welfare while still being able to screw his constituents.
Since most people are in favor of the public option I'm curious as to what Congressmen support it when their constituents do not.
Annie
@amyjolenesmith (21)
• United States
29 Oct 09
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/october_2009/49_say_no_health_care_reform_better_than_current_plan
People want this? Really?
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
30 Oct 09
Yes, really! I know Rasmussen is the chosen poll of the right but it's interesting how every other poll shows that the people overwhelmingly support a public option as part of health care reform. I can't imagine how anyone would side with the insurers who are responsible for nearly 45,000 deaths each year!
Annie
@amyjolenesmith (21)
• United States
29 Oct 09
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/october_2009/49_say_no_health_care_reform_better_than_current_plan
@amyjolenesmith (21)
• United States
29 Oct 09
ugghhhh... I'll be glad when I can cut n paste. What's up with the link thing anyways?
