Obama implies that the White House doesn't have to play by the rules.
By debrakcarey
@debrakcarey (19887)
United States
October 30, 2009 11:28am CST
Remember FILEGATE? FBI files on some Republican luminaries turned up in the Clinton White House. Well, seems that one of those Republicans took exception and sued back in 1996. The case has remained alive and seems now Obama wants to put an end to it.
Last year, federal Judge Royce Lamberth ruled that the Executive Office of the President (EOP) is covered under the Privacy Act. In that decision, Lamberth tartly added that “...this court holds that under the Privacy Act, the word ‘agency’ includes the Executive Office of the President, just as the Privacy Act says.”
So this year, the Obama White House comes back in the same case and asks Lamberth to grant a motion for summary dismissal, arguing that “the White House is not an agency under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), and it necessarily follows that it is not an agency subject to the Privacy Act.”
Amazing, but true. This exchange is the latest installment in one of the longest-running courtroom dramas from the Clinton administration,Alexander v. Federal Bureau of Investigation, aka "Filegate." Remember that one, when 400 FBI highly sensitive background investigative files on Republican luminaries mysteriously turned up in the Clinton White House.
Just "a bureaucratic miscue," explained President Bill Clinton at the time
Interesting enough, but it gets better. Former President Bill Clinton now says that the files shouldn't have been handled the way they were and should have never wound up at the White House.
Judicial Watch head chairman Tom Fitton explains the stakes:
Judicial Watch head Tom Fitton explains the stakes in this long-running judicial clash:
"What the Obama administration is effectively saying here is that if the White House decides to illegally compile FBI files and violate your privacy rights, tough luck. It is disturbing that the Obama administration has taken the legal position that the Privacy Act does not apply to the White House and the Clinton FBI files scandal was not a scandal.
"It is worrying to those of us concerned about the Obama White House's collecting 'fishy' emails and compiling an enemies list of new organizations, radio hosts, businesses, and industry associations to attack and smear. Is the Obama defense of the FBI files scandal less about that Clinton scandal and more about what his White House is up to now?" Fitton asked.
TRANSPARENCY is most likely the one word that got Pres. Obama elected. Seems to me he needs to look it up in the dictionary.
Here's the full article: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Which-part-of-judges-decision-does-Obama-White-House-not-understand-67345222.html
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7 responses
@reppie2roo (62)
• United States
31 Oct 09
I remember when the Democratic primary was still up in the air, I told an Obamunist friend of mine, that even though I didn't agree with his philosophy, I thought Obama was an honorable man and would not be a horrible President.
Once he won the Democratic nomination I began to recognize a change. I cannot recall one particular incident, but I got a bad feeling about him. Maybe it was the fundamentally transform America comment.
I told everyone I could that he was dangerous, he will take advantage of your blind faith in him, and will destroy the Constitution. I told everyone don't believe the feel good message, it is a lie. Needless to say, I was laughed at alot.
I still express my feelings about him, and even though I still get laughed at by people, it is far less common than it used to be.
I sure hope enough people wake up not just in 2012, but hopefully in 2010, we get rid of alot of these corrupt career politicians.
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@reppie2roo (62)
• United States
3 Nov 09
Thank you for the words of support, I appreciate it.
I am about to get out of the Army, and want to continue to support the military as a civilian. My mom told me that I need to quit posting negative comments about Obama on the internet, because she is afraid that the comments may be used against me when looking for a job.
I told her I say nothing illegal or incindiary so I should have no problem, but if my comments are used to deny me a job, then that is all the more reason to make them.
I doubt the White House is really worried about what little ol me says, but I know for a fact they wish to shut others up.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
7 Nov 09
There are many who are nervous about their opinions posted on line coming back to haunt them...and that in itself is very telling...WHY should Americans HAVE to feel that way? WHEN did it occur that we should feel our government was AGAINST US?
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Nov 09
You're in good company. Alot of us have gotten laughed at. But we try to get people to wake up cause we love our country. Welcome to the Lot, reppie2roo!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
31 Oct 09
What? Is he a demigod or something? A scandal is a scandal. No one is above the law. And is not the president of the United States, even one that is a usurper and possibly put there by illegal means and by his Acorn minions stuffing the ballot boxes, and destroying Republican ballots, supposed to show that he disapproved of the way he got into office and decide to obey the rules?
But I guess knowing his character he does not have to since he does not think that he is the president of the United States but the emperor of America.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
31 Oct 09
I noticed in this article that Bill Clinton is suddenly feeling ethical and saying the files should never have wound up at the White House. Do you not see a feud about to break out here...I mean, he's subtly saying Obama is in the wrong for wanting the law suit to go away....and there sits Hillary in the Sec. of State office?
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
31 Oct 09
I wonder if Clinton had second thoughts that if he had said that the files should not have wound up at the White House when the incident first occurred that Obama would not taken advantage of temporary measures such as Bush approving one stimulus package and FDR having had given assistance in the Depression and made them permanent. There are some people who will make measures that are temporary permanent or "if it works right now, it will work forever."
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
30 Oct 09
When you think you are the most powerful person in the world, you think rules do not apply to you. There is the true problem we have created the White House the throne of power which should not be the case. Take for instance George Washington refused to be called your excellency. The President should not be viewed as any different that the store manager at you local Wal-Mart. So yes the White House should have to obey the Freedom of info act, heck we do kind of pay his salary, just saying.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
31 Oct 09
Nixon sure found out the hard way.
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@DuoMaxwell (953)
• United States
31 Oct 09
Checks and balances, plus the Bill of Rights were there to make sure that any future governments, including federal and state ones, that grew an imperial superiority complex were to be put right back in their place by the people who put them in office.
The Founding Fathers knew what they were doing, thought ahead and were anticipating these types of situations. They didn't want us to suffer the same treatment the Crown gave the Colonies. If a govenment's ego became too big, they become tyrannical and abusive, even going so far as to doing what they've been doing since the PATRIOT ACT, turning the USA into a totalitarian/fascist/Orwellian dictatorship as you described with the enemies lists, email collecting, etc. No one, not even the government, is above the law. What Obama's doing could be labeled as treason, and deserves impeachment from the White House.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
30 Oct 09
It's amazing and shocking to me that the people who voted for that man still can't see what he is. They'll be praising him right up until he seizes their property and paychecks and arrests their neighbors for criticizing the government.
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@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
31 Oct 09
If they actually had to admit he's a liar and a crook, then they'd have to admit they were lied to and stolen from. And fell for it.
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@millertime (1394)
• United States
2 Nov 09
It doesn't surprise me in the least. It's just another example of our government officials having the arrogance to believe that the laws of the land don't apply to them. They think that they are above the law and abuse their power or operate outside of the scope of their power all the time. The fact that a Democratic White House has FBI files on the opposition party is akin to the Watergate scandal. Of course, that was Republicans and the President had to resign and those involved went to jail. When the Democrats break the law, well, that's ok... Tax cheats in the government, no problem... Senate seats for sale, no big deal... Avowed communists that want to throw out the constitution, why should that matter...
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny." Thomas Jefferson
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
30 Oct 09
IMO this is just one more of the cover your butt actions that Obama and his cohorts are systematically undertaking. Some of which does come to our attention but I am pretty sure that is only the tip of the ice berg as the rest (99%) are being done subversively. I believe the president is elected therefore hired by the people to govern. As we pay his salary and expenses with our taxes he is an employee of the people as such that in no way makes him above the law.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
30 Oct 09
NOt according to him. Or his supporters.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
31 Oct 09
[b]Yeah...I'm afraid it will come to blows, eventually. Sigh. That's what always happens when freedom's truly threatened.
I'm just sayin'....
Maggiepie
IMPEACH HIM. He's a traitor to the Constitution.[/b]
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
2 Nov 09
Maggiepie...you always manage to make me smile.
And YOU are right...it will take a serious threat to liberty...think they'll wake up and see it in time.
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