Every discussion created will have to pass the admin before being released...

Malaysia
November 7, 2009 11:00am CST
Do you think it's a good idea? That admin will decide the quality and not us?? Please share your thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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9 responses
@tdemex (3540)
• United States
7 Nov 09
I think it would cost to much cash for the company to do 24hrs a day and our share of the profits would suffer! tdemex
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• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
tdemex ~ I agree on the profits share part, but WAIT I am not suggesting that I agree 100% with this idea as there are pros and cons before they even think of implementing it. This is also a survey on the users' reaction if it works that way.
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• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
Saurabh ~ Frankly speaking, I will think twice to leave this site just because of this as I still have lots of patience than going through some of the discussions that are repeated over and over again, which have actually taken up most of my time before I land on a fresh one, and why would I leave as the task will be on the admin, but I agree that it will surely consume lots of their time and that the earnings will be very slow...
@tdemex (3540)
• United States
8 Nov 09
Sorry! My opinion is I disagree! When I want to post something I'd like to see it when I do! Not when the Admin. gets the time to view it first and wade thru their back log which could be a few hours or days or when ever they get around to it! tdemex
• United States
7 Nov 09
I agree that it would be a very large task and not very feasible. I also think that there would be other problems with this, too. Perhaps the admins at myLot do not have the same criteria for what we would view as quality that we do. Right now, we have control over what we do and do not think are quality discussions. MyLot only steps in when discussions are violations of the TOS. If they had to decide on every single discussion, though, perhaps they would not think that some of the discussion topics that we enjoy would be quality discussions. Then, we might not have as much variety as we do now, because the discussion might not make it through the screening process. If myLot admins were not going to put any restrictions on the discussions other than that they do not violate TOS, though, then it would be pointless for them to approve them first.
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• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
You are probably right that it would be a very large task, but I don't agree when you said about the criteria of quality discussions. I think they have every right to determine which are of quality to their standards and not us, but I DO like the idea that we are in control over what we do in here. What makes it difficult that every user has different opinion about what is quality and what's not?
• Canada
7 Nov 09
I work in online community management as my profession and I've done so for the past ten years. The type of moderation you are suggesting is normally only in place on sites for children or adolescents. In those types of forums, there is a much greater concern for the safety and privacy of the users. There is also a MUCH lower volume of posting than on a site like myLot where people are hoping to earn for all of their activity. It is generally assumed on sites where adults participate that they are capable of reading and understanding guidelines and contributing appropriately. As others have said in this discussion already, "pre-moderating" content is expensive. I have had very few clients in all of those ten years that were willing to pay for full moderation (meaning every post gets read by a moderator). In most cases, websites combine a word filter with partial moderation and an escalation system (myLot appears to do this). I doubt very much that it would be a cost-effective decision for a site this large to hold every post in a queue pending approval.
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• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
First of all, sorry if you have misunderstood my intention of creating this discussion because I am NOT suggesting this idea and agree 100% on it because I am looking at the pros and cons as well. I am merely asking for the users' point of views on the quality control whether admin should do it or we are to determine ourselves since there are so many discussions that some users might think they have no quality, but others would think that they have quality... Anyway, since you have been in this field for many years already, I really appreciate your opinion on this matter especially on how the moderation system works. Normally, what kind of system is being used and does it really work especially the combined one you mentioned above?? Thanks.
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• Canada
9 Nov 09
Oh, not to worry! I don't think I misunderstood your intentions at all I know you were asking for pros and cons and looking at both sides of the issue - which is the basis of good discussion, right? The combined system of moderation that I mentioned actually does work very well. There are certainly troublemakers (or "trolls," as people insist on calling them) on every forum. Some people just find it entertaining to get a rise out of other people However, in my experience, no moderation system is ever fully acceptable to the users. Either they feel they are being too harshly monitored (when their posts are deleted and they don't want them to be) or they feel the moderators should be available to them 24/7/365 (when they want a situation to be dealt with immediately). It really depends which side of the fence they are on at the time, if you know what I mean? Basically, moderators are as good as their training, tools and clear-cut guidelines allow them to be and are as effective as the client allows them to be. Budgets are what usually dictate all of those things, unfortunately.
• Malaysia
10 Nov 09
Thanks, I think I got your point; the basis is the finances to make it work. So, if they have sufficient budgets on this and the users have to comply with the new system, it means it will normally work out smoothly without any flaws, am I right?? Not including the interference from outside parties.
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
7 Nov 09
First of all that would require a large number of admins and moderators to be 24/7 online to check out all disscusions - first as opening thread, then follow up if have answers .. Then it may come up questioning the subjectivity of those admins, specialy on "hot topics" as politic, religion and so on. As it is now, most of mylot activity is more or less selfregulate itself. Is ok this system admins have create, is optimal. my 2 cents.
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• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
Without any proper system to screen and filter, yes, I agree it would be tedious and costly. I don't think they would be biased on hot topics as such because if they do then it's better to remove the interests in the first place as what I am actually pointing out is what if their system or moderators can pick up the same topics and especially the single liner more of like a statement than a discussion and just remove it.
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@Lucky09 (1763)
• Philippines
8 Nov 09
hi corry^^;; i have read the above responses and it's true that it's not that feasible at all thinking that there are thousands of discussions being posted each day, not including the responses and comments they get... but it would be great if some atleast some could pass the admin for new discussion as i can see repeated discussions over and over, again and again even by the same person...and some are just changing the title but the whole idea and topic are almost the same. i have seen one poster today which i remember that he/she posted before and now he/she asked/said the same thing again.
• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
Hi, Lucky! Oh, maybe he/she has created SO many discussions at one time that it has simply slipped his/her mind! It's totally a bad idea then if everybody thinks that it is not feasible, but at least it is something good right if they could come up with some system on doing the screening and filtering, not on the comments and responses but only on the discussions created because what I've seen in most of the responses they are only concerned about the negative part, but not on the positive part except there are some whom actually weighing between this two. Anyway, thanks for sharing your opinion. Don't forget to report on the poster you mentioned above.
@Lucky09 (1763)
• Philippines
8 Nov 09
i'm thinking of doing that many times but i cannot do it since it is getting lots of responses and it would be a loss to those who respond if it gets deleted. the posters are much older than me in mylot so they actually know what they are doing and what a great strategy to them...hhhmmm. no offense to but i have seen their started discussions on their profile.
@Lucky09 (1763)
• Philippines
8 Nov 09
corry, i forgot, it's not a bad suggestion at all..it's just the way how to do it and the cost but it would really be great if it happens
• Malaysia
7 Nov 09
it would be A LOT of work for the admin. And certain topics are hot only when they're new. I also have this feeling that with such quality control measures there will be significantly lesser discussion threads in MyLot. MyLot can improve much, but IMHO this is not exactly the best way to go about it.
• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
I know what you mean, there'll be tons of work for the admin, but with the huge population of this community, I wonder how do they really work? I am not questioning them or suggesting this idea because they will only decide on what the users think. I am neutral and open for what's best for this site. Anyway, thanks for your point of views on this matter.
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
4 Dec 09
Hi corry, I agree with you, and I think still administration is deciding the same and removing it if it violates the guidelines. But it may take some time and because of the increasing population some threads are getting skipped and taking time to remove it. I understand your point, may be you are thinking that after posting it, we need the approval, isn’t it, I think it is a good idea, because we won’t lost points after making our posts by taking time etc. But the problem is in the practical side, let the admin think about the same.
• Malaysia
7 Dec 09
Hi, Sree! Thank you for your understanding. I rather wait for the post I create to be approved by admin then to respond to discussions that later on will be deleted. It takes so much of my time to think and put the words together, so, it is sometimes frustrating when suddenly I have lost a few number of posts because of some discussions I have responded to have been deleted. However, there is no doubt that it will involve huge sum of money to make it happen, but it's just an idea and if they think it can be taken into practice, that would be awesome, and if it's not, let's think of other way on how to make this site clean and clear from violations and plagiarisms.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
8 Nov 09
I appreciate your idea but I doubt it would be feasible. For a start admin would need a lot more people to keep up with the number of discussions posted every day and everything would be delayed, we would have to wait for our discussion to come up and therefore the interactions and the earnings would be delayed. I also think it would be a rather expensive exercise for MyLot which would result in fewer earnings for us. I think it is better for us all to work together and keep an eye on violations ourselves and report them accordingly.
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• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
Hi, Paula! So, you don't think it's possible? Actually, it's just a thought and I don't simply agree or disagree with it without knowing how their system work and when you mentioned about the delayed in the interactions, what I meant was the discussions we created and not the one we comment on. Well, I agree with you that it's best to work together.
@rosekiss (30414)
• Eugene, Oregon
8 Nov 09
I wouldn't like that idea at all, as we would have to wait before we got our earnings, as it would take way to long, and I think that mylot would suffer seriously if the admins were to do that. However, I don't think, they would ever do that, as mylot would possibly lose users, and that wouldn't be good either. I like things the way they are, and I hope it stays that way. I think we all like things the way they are, where every 24 hours we can see what we made the day before. It really makes no sense for them to ever change their ideas and go along with what we are discussing. I do enjoy mylot very much, and I intend to stay here for as long as I can. Good luck to you and happy mylotting.
• Malaysia
8 Nov 09
That is one thing about the earnings and I agree that the possibility of losing users would be high, but I do see the positive side of this idea though. However, I am always open on how to improve this site as I too enjoy myself in here. Thanks and Happy myLotting to you, too!