The Fallen world into Hell or separation from the Pure and Holy...
@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
United States
November 8, 2009 3:49am CST
First we need to look to the roots of the false beliefs the very contradictions from the beginning placed into the text and if you ask a Jewish person of the existence of Hell they will most likely tell you that in the Torah there is no mention of the word Hell, but are they being honest? What is Sheol and Hades? Other names for the same word that we define as Hell, and the same can be said for the fallen creation called the Devil or Lucifer to bring life to such a creation of evil is not pure and holy. You need to believe that the world has truly fallen into the depths of depravity with no explanation of where this evil came from with all signs pointing right back to the creation and the creator of all things. We can not define the creator of all things as we look out into infinity the eternal space between us and the never ending travel of time that has no beginning. We can imagine that the solar system created in the midst of a Galactic event is feasible to comprehend but we can not fathom the depths of the universe that has no beginning. So we create stories to appease our minds and our hearts desires and we collect these stories into a book and worship the words instead of the power that would draw us together united in love for one to another.
I remember back in the day of Catechism Classes and other religious services it was often taught that while Hell isn't really a place of physical origin it is a separation from GOD so the true definition of Hell is to be separated from the source of life and love. That to me makes perfect sense and I could say that my life has been a living Hell due to the lack of love that was not afforded to me by my Mother this hatred that would in later life involve my Father leading me to a separation of both of my parents. Being hated by one is enough for any person on Earth but by both is a difficult task to bear... A burden that is heavy upon the shoulders of any individual.
Now if we take the Bible literally as it is written we would have to believe that this place of Hell actually exists, and the world is Fallen due to the creation of an Evil that lives in each and every living person or even thing. But not all life has been created evil if we go to the very beginning of the Bible and GOD created living things and GOD looked upon what is created and saw that it was GOOD! GOD being pure and holy as it is written in the Bible will not allow evil into the presence of the pure and holy as it is written then must contradict what is written in the story of Job and at many other times including what is written about the life of Jesus. Evil was to be put behind that which is Good, Pure and Holy that is if the evil really exists.
By allowing the evil thoughts to contradict and twist the pure, holy and loving words and works of GOD we create a contradiction that deeply cuts into our psyche, this is the very root of evil that causes people of all religious roots of Abraham deep emotional pain. We have to rise above this flaw in the psyche of those that teach the immoral thoughts that are so obviously flawed. These contradictions that exist to profit the false teachers who seek worldly gain for what they sell as they write and speak to convince others to believe the lies at the root of their tree of corruption.
Eat of this fruit and you will surely die! Cross the threshold into the evil beliefs and lose your eternal soul, they have sinned and have missed the mark. They do not work good for free, Freedom can not be bought and there is no offering that can buy your eternal life back for you if each individual fails to seek the path to peace and love through doing what is right for each other as a gift that keeps on giving life perpetual...
There is one word that is true...
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
8 Nov 09
I cant understand a mother hating her kid.
and then a father thats not good.
And of course we should do away with evil but how to do it all poeples dont follow the Golden Rule!
Like walk a mile in my shoes before you condem me! or you or any one else.
The Bible condraticts its self in a lot of places .
and thats why I always said it is a book about men written by men to go the way they wanted things to go.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
8 Nov 09
I fully understand what you have written, both about the Golden Rule and people not following that particular path as we think they should... The question then becomes are we wrong for seeing things our way?
As for the Bible written by men to promote the wills of men, yes, I do believe you are very correct about that and that there are many contradictions this I too have noticed, and I fully understand why I didn't see the contradictions previously in my life because I was not supposed to know about the contradictions so upon these thoughts we were not to think, it is all another form of brainwashing as I wrote the the first person to respond it is not easy to remove the gender of a deity, the Native American people did not worship a male or female GOD they worship a Spirit that is Great, this is the true spirit of GOD... We should all be united to know that spirit even as it might be in many forms with many names it is all of one Great Spirit that we are all connected to.
Peace and Blessings,
Sincerely,
Gary
@DavidReedy (2378)
• United States
19 Nov 09
Beautiful and poetic posting. I dig. Say more on that one word...
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
21 Nov 09
Thanks David,
That one word is the work of good, GOD, Jesus as a child of GOD like all of us are capable of being one with that which can not be described but exists...
How can one know the truth if you follow a bunch of lies, and can you prove a lie? Suppose you get into a fight with your spouse, let's say they are slamming doors mad and the fight leads you to some time of separation a moment to cool off a period of time to collect your composure and your thoughts. But here comes your spouse, they want to go for a drive, really slamming doors mad and they lie telling you that they want to go for a drive. How do you know that your spouse is lying? When you are in your right mind and you want to go for a drive you would normally have with you your wallet and your keys. Now if your spouse takes the keys, (Your keys) that were hanging from the lock in the door that they just slammed and taking the keys to start the car that they claimed to be out in the garage in your space not to continue the fight and take a moment to cool down but to go for a drive to be passing through while slamming doors, and then to notice that your spouse is trying to bend the ignition key to the car... Is your spouse in the right frame of mind to go for a drive? Should your spouse be attempting to start the car with your keys? Oh' the ignition key is bent...
The slamming door, the bent key, the lie... It all ties together into a moment of provocation...
You're being emotionally abused, right?
Haven't we all been there and done that?
Heightened emotions are devices of sin... All liars should be given a pass and the victims should be violated over and over again... In the name of Jesus the light of exposure to all darkness in the world.
Strength in the moment of weakness...
@manong05 (5027)
• Philippines
8 Nov 09
I appreciate you lengthy topic GreatWhiteBuffalo, the universe is indeed unfathomable and one can only approximate its infinity and greatness. It is much more difficult that after meditating on its wonders to say that there is no creator behind it's design and existence. It actually takes more faith to deny it against all the evidences.
What makes hell more fearful is not the fiery nature but the eternal separation from the source and giver of life. We feel his presence in our daily lives and it is common to all believers and non-believers alike. We live because of him and I can not imagine how life would be like should we be separated from our creator.
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@TheGreatWhiteBuffalo (4822)
• United States
8 Nov 09
The truth is that the presence of GOD can neither be proved or disproved and faith really has little to do with the evidence or lack there of. We honestly believe based upon how we are taught to view the world as a child.
Two things, since separation is the absence of living with GOD, and the reality that Hell is only that separation whether for a moment or an eternity both would feel the same to the believer and to know this would bring you to a wake up call that there could be such an absence in your life, and all would be for naught. With out eternal life even for a moment would seem eternal...
The other thing now that we know there is no real place called hell other than that created in the minds of those who would believe in such a place... The other thing would be this obsession you have with the gender of GOD... I would invite you to read more of my writings on this topic and consider would GOD actually be gender neutral? Why is this important? Well one gender is wrong and the other is also wrong if one is wrong then both are going to be wrong and the only possible way to be right is to remove the issue all together. GOD is not male nor female, GOD is GOD you could say that GOD is universal. Now if you call Jesus GOD then indeed you have a male deity but can you prove that Jesus actually existed aside from the witness testimony written in the Bible? Again the evidence is lacking and so the proof is once again placed upon your heart. I believe that Jesus existed and I believe that Jesus was crucified, I do not believe that Jesus actually was killed during the crucifixion. I believe there are errors in translation and interpretation passed from one generation to the next. The truth about what Jesus taught to us as witnessed is much more valuable to living the life that GOD would find most satisfying or acceptable. If you know a pure, holy and loving GOD... Since the Church was created after the crucifixion we should take all references that tie Jesus to the Church with a grain of salt the validity of the Church, Synagogue, Mosque or Temple all have great flaws when it comes to teaching the ways of truth. This fact has been witnessed all through out history and we must move away from such flawed teachings or brainwashing.
If you want to learn just how addictive some thoughts are try not saying or writing the pronoun to GOD. You will find that you are addicted to using the term He, or Him and it will be very difficult to change your habit, one clue that maybe something isn't right in how we revere the Great Spirit we all know to be one GOD and yet many find like a lightening bolt there are many branches to the divine.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
8 Nov 09
While growing up our minds aren't developed right away. So many times we run on feelings without ever knowing the reasons why. Now you are an adult, well versed in reason and logic. Now is the time to resolve all the issues. Go to your parents with unconditional love in your heart and logic in your mind to get all the answers. Communication is key in ALL relationships. You say your parents don't love you. Make them look you in the eyes and say it. So many times children don't get the entire story and are left to fill in the blanks with assumptions. Isn't it time for the entire truth. Sometimes it's the children who end up doing the teaching. Don't let this go. It's time to act!!! If I were in your shoes, I could never let it rest. Drama and interaction will bring resolution and happiness. It's all in your hands!!
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