Do you consider buying pirated or fake cd, dvd as a form of stealing?
By hotsummer
@hotsummer (13837)
Philippines
November 9, 2009 1:08pm CST
Here in my country there is a commercial with a message of buying fake cd or dvd is a form of stealing. i do believe it is one form of stealing. Though it is not really punishable by law yet. But i think that there are other ways or kinds of stealing that is not really blatant or obvious form of stealing. like in a hotel, i feel that bringing home some items like fork and spoon which people here do sometimes as they thought that they paid for it and so they can take it home. and like in an airplane that they will put some items in their bags. it is okay to bring home the condiments like catsup in foil inside the bag, but to put in the saucers and etc is another thing. though we paid for our accommodation but still we have no right to bring something home just because we want to have as a form of remembrance.
So do you take some stuff home when you are in some place that you paid for like hotel and etc.
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15 responses
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
10 Nov 09
I don't think even if I do it, I will accept in public. Unless and until there is an option of annoymos post, I won't do that.
So, for the first time, I am not telling you the truth but at the same time, I won't tell you the fake answer.
So, my answer is "no comment!"
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
13 Nov 09
we rather save our money and buy some more important things.
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
LOL. though you didn't give me the answer, i think i get what you wanna say. LOL. yeah i think that we are mostly guilty of this specially here in asia. i think here in asia is where piracy is rampant and the biggest problem.
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
9 Nov 09
I would never buy pirated dvds, as they are definitely stealing. However, I have taken extra cartons of sauces and relishes to use in our motorhome, and I've also taken small shower gels and shampoos from hotel rooms. I think if you've paid for a meal or a service or a room, it's okay to take things that have been factored into the price, but that you didn't use. I wouldn't take crockery, cutlery or towels though - that would definitely be stealing.
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
9 Nov 09
here in my country , in the philippines, it is not really considered by people as some form of stealing. maybe because we are poor country, and buying an original would cost a lot. it is just so natural for people here to buy without feeling any guilt at all. i too am guilty of that. but i didn't actually realize it was a form of stealing already. i just realized it when i saw the commercial and it really made me thing that it is really some form of stealing.
people who buys fake ones does not really steal bigger things like steal from shops or stores, so they thought they are not doing any wrong.
anyways, i try to buy original ones now. if i can't afford i just rent it in stores. so at least i didn't steal.
i rarely watch dvd or buy cd. i only when i really like the movie or the album. so i think buying occasionally an original will not really put a big whole in my pocket. i can save for that. i just bought this morning online a cd. it feels great to pay for it and not just buy a fake one. and also because no one sells a fake of this cd i bought online.
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@whicloudly (12)
• China
10 Nov 09
i prefer to rent a genuine cd because i have non-enough money to owe them
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@shenqixu (130)
• China
10 Nov 09
i would not take some stuff home, when i am in some place tha i paid. it is not a good habit to take tings that do not belong to you to home. Seriously, it is a kinds of stealing. it should not be accepted...In my country, i believe that selling pirated or fake cd, dvd, is a form of stealing, but as the people who buy pirated or fake CD, DVD is not kinds of stealing....They paid for them also it is not good habit or behavior..it is not their wrong..They just want to buy thing mor cheaper..The original Cd, cd is so expensiven and they can not afford and they make this wrong choice..I think the corperation selling original Cd,dvd should consider these situation and make a more reasonable price for the customer in that developing counties. It is not only good for the local people but also the development of their corperation..
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
yeah we paid for those fake ones but only in a very small price though. not an upfront stealing but steal we kinda steal too in away.
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@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
I would definitely say yes if it is in a big quantity those I would be hypocrite if i say I have say I have not tried to buy pirated CD/DVD as it is always seen everywhere. Thus, I have buy before but now i avoid as i could see the quality is not good then for a long time storage the CD which is of low quality the contents is erase and become unusable for a long time, the money spent in buying become worthless.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
11 Nov 09
yes those fake ones are not of good quality. it is hard to find those fake ones with a clear copy.
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@sunilcutein (66)
• India
10 Nov 09
Yes i agree that this is one kind of steeling but which cannot be changed you can see many free downloads from net which cannot be stopped and daily every one downloads so many and the same we get outside like fake CD's
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
11 Nov 09
i don't understand those free downloads online if they are legal or not. with so many things on the net and technology going on so fast, that i don't know which are legal sites or not.
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@Silverbeam (20)
• United States
10 Nov 09
It can be such a hard subject. It comes down to desire and want really.
A lot of us do not have the means to go and get all the music, movies and other things that we think we need in out life.
I know some people would download it and say that they are planning to buy it anyway. Having it before you actually buy it in that sense. What would be the harm in having it early if you were to get it before you go and get it.
Another was for things not easily available. Like material from another country. You could say that since you can not get it from you local wal-mart or best buy, it would be alright to obtain it through other means.
The thing is if you love or like it, shouldn't you want to support the person/s who produced such material so that they can make more in the future? How would you feel if you created a song or piece of artwork only to have people copy it and take it for free? It can be a hard and difficult choice for all of us. you just need to look at what is really important. being honest and living within your means, or having anything that you want without the work needed to get it.
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
11 Nov 09
yes i think some people though they download it they plan still to buy it when they have the money to do so.
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@think_twice (553)
• India
10 Nov 09
If it really hurts you then say me one thing that I want to know from you. You must have an operating system & lots of software in your computer. Do you have genuinely purchased them all? If yes then you must be a millionaire not like us common people and if no then why does buying pirated cds hurts you? Because you are paying a price afterall but in small amount suited to your pocket and offcourse at the cost of quality.
But I don't support stealing spoons, forks, towels etc because you can have this without stealing because its prices are within a range one can try to afford and if you do not afford that then how could you afford to board an airplane or hotel room?
But in the case of softwares they are already sky high and only rich people could reach there. I think you understand.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
i admit my xp i use in my computer is fake also and is not original. but i still believe that we ought to buy the original though. but of course i can't buy the original. and so i don't really guilty about it. but if i can afford it why now. if i can save for it.
@Bearballew (1148)
• United States
9 Nov 09
Yes. I believe it is. That cd in the Walmart or Best Buy has been bought and sold so many times that the price is outrageous for us to purchase, but it is fair to pay each step what they ask.
It is never right to steal. No matter the circumstances.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
9 Nov 09
if the price is too high. i think that they are also doing some form of stealing. i think that they should make it affordable also so that people will be encourage to buy the original ones.
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@happy6162 (3001)
• United States
10 Nov 09
Yes, it is stealing if you buy pirated or fake cd, dvd. I have taken shampoo, soap and hand lotion from a hotel but only if I have used them as they will just throw the open bottles and replace them with new ones.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
yeah we paid for those shampoos and i do take them home. but if i don't know better i could have taken other things that belongs to the hotel. ha ha . like the fork and spoon and some small things.
@rg0205 (2636)
• Hong Kong
9 Nov 09
It is a form of stealing, yes, because they are reselling and profiting from some stolen goods which they have no rights to distribute. It is actually punishable by law because it's a copyright infringement issue. So, well, my answer would be yes, it is stealing.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
9 Nov 09
well i mean we the buyer and the seller. though we won't sell it. if we buy from them we are part of stealing if they are fake items.
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@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
yes it is, but we can't deny that availability of fake CDs and DVDs allowed those who have no access or those who can't afford to go to the movies a way of watching their favorite shows without burning a hole in their pocket. For me, fake DVD and CD will not kill the industry instead they should pay the artists less so those CD will be much more affordable because the primary reason those CDs are expensive is because of the talent fees.
I also agree with you to take condiments, but saucers? well I heard of those who carry hotel towels and blankets too LOL. Cheers!
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
yeah fake ones are easy to buy . just every where you go and it is very affordable.and when you really badly need it and you don't have enough money to buy original one these fake ones are heaven sent. but i still though in my heart it is wrong though. but anyways, it is not that bad though.
@getbrowser (1708)
• China
9 Nov 09
As far as I know, in my country, China, most people are accustomed to downloading illegal musics and buy the pirated or fake CD. In their eyes, It is not considered as some form of stealing abviously.
If I have chances to make a choice between pirated CDs and legal CDs, But most people tend to buy these fake ones, this reason directly leads to rampant piracy. At the same time, it is difficult to find the legal products. In my opinion, buying pirated or fake CD, DVD should be thought as a form of stealing, even if the pirated actions are so rampant.
In order to avoid these actions, I think the government should take more detailed laws to prevent the pirated products appearing.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
yeah i think in asia it is really rampant. before i just prefer the fake but actually i am not really contented with the fake ones cause they tend to be blurry and sometimes they are not complete. but there are some that are really good. but it is actually sometimes a risk. cause not all the sells fake ones has a tv on their stalls so that you can see first if the cd is clear copy or not.
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@paleorainy (630)
• Italy
9 Nov 09
Yeah, I think I agree with you we could call that stealing, but I'm not totally against stealing.
First off, who would you be stealing from? the artist? He or she could buy your bed, your house, your neighborhood and your town altogether and still have money left...I don't feel that guilty!
Second is about the price of CD's right now, in my country Tory Amos' lastest cd was selling for 22 euros. Tewnty two euros is 5 days groceries for me, it's crazy!!
I remember I wanted to get it, but seen the price she'll live without my money, and then we shouldn't copy the cd? I think it's right to do it. I can understand when CD's are cheaper, but when they're dear too...no way, I think copying is maybe not formally right but acceptable.
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@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
yes me too i can't blame others for doing. and i admit i may be guilty of this still from time to time. sometimes like you do i may tend to think if i will just buy some other important groceries or necessities at home and just buy a fake cd or dvd. cause the original are way too expensive. but they have tried to lower it down. mostly cd and dvd would range to $5 to $10. not more than that. mostly range in between that. so i think it is quite affordable now but it is still a big money specially if you plan to buy more than one cd or dvd. but if i really like the cd or dvd i may tend to buy an original one cause i rarely like something at all.
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@smilecross (22)
• Canada
10 Nov 09
When I was in China, everyone buys pirates, copyright isn't really protected by government. Sure, there are laws which say if you buy pirates then you break the law. But it's just like a normal thing to do in China =( how sad. I really don't want to say that people are not rich, SO they're supposed to buy pirates, but the society is like that, it's not right, and people know that, I really hope it will change and we all know, it takes time.
I would consider buying pirates as a form of stealing. Because when you buy pirates, the money didn't actually go to the people's pockets who spent days and months even years on the project. You're getting things from them with such a cheap price and they didn't get anything back. It's just not fair. Anyways, I think in many countries copyright are being protected well by laws, and there's always some problems with the society, right? =P But we should all do our best to change it. =)
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
yes i think that the government is not implementing a strict rule even here in the philippines also. so i think the reason also because that the government knows that the people will not buy the original ones anyways cause no one have the money to buy original ones so they can't force them to do so, so they don't bother to implement the rules cause it will not help the movie industry at all to earn. cause even it is implemented not much people will still buy the original cause people want to save money. if it is strict here, i will not buy original ones that often. i just plan those i really love to have as my collection. so i may start to have my collection. i am just looking for some cool cd and dvd's worth collecting that i will really love to have.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
10 Nov 09
hotsummer,
First of all, just because these pirated compacts and DVD are available does not mean that they are legal and that buying it means that we are not culpable of theft.
Supporting pirates just makes us an accomplice especially when the money is not going anywhere near the original hardworking artistes but these pirates or thieves. And guess what are they doing with the money? More criminal or vice activities?
So, don't let their presence and availability clout our logic and sense of rights and wrongs.
@hotsummer (13837)
• Philippines
10 Nov 09
yeah, we are guilty also if we patronize these fake ones. but being in poor country as philippines we can't help ourselves sometimes to buy them as i can't possibly buy original items each time. and i can't spend all my money for those original ones.
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