How do you keep the faith?
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
November 11, 2009 12:06pm CST
This isn't a religion-specific question because I myself do not conform to organised religion (I like to keep the ideas open), but more of a spiritual one.
How do you "top up" your faith and keep it strong? I try really hard to believe that there is love for me and a point to it all etc. and usually I am reconciled with it, but on bad days I second guess myself at times and worry that I'm actually alone.
I'm sure most people experience a crisis of faith at some point in their lives. What reassures you that there is a greater good? How do you revive your faith when you're feeling low.
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@ravend (658)
• Malta
11 Nov 09
I once read that even the greatest believers had crisis of faith. I'm catholic, and apparently even the greatest doctors of our religion had a lot of crisises on the way. I keep praying, keep loving, and keep doing good. In the case of my religion, pain is part of the beauty of life!
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@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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12 Nov 09
It's interesting that you said that "pain is part of the beauty of life".
We watched "Little Miss Sunshine" the other night and one of the characters was talking about how Proust said that suffering was the best part of his life because it's when you really live and learn the most. It's hard to see the wood through the trees when you are in pain, but if you can learn from it then it's not a waste at all. It's important to who you are.
@ravend (658)
• Malta
12 Nov 09
Yes, when pain is there, I thank god for I am able to feel it, for I was able to have something that made me feel pain. If I am in pain because of someone I love, I am thankful because I am able to love. And if I able to feel pain, it means I will be able to feel joy. Long time ago I was put on anti-depressants to suppress pain, but put them off, cos I realised that than with them I would not even be able to feel joy. =)
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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13 Nov 09
I get where you're coming from and I'm impressed. I remember someone once saying that without having felt the depths of despair and pain, you would not be able to feel the greatest joys and love. I've also been told that our worst moments are there to humble us before something wonderful. That would be nice to believe.
@Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
12 Nov 09
Praying, talking to others of the same faith, and reading spritual books can often boost your faith. But, it is very common for people of faith to have times that they feel they have none, or that their God is not really there....we call it the "Dark Night of the Soul"....which is part of the journey that we are all on.
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@mrjburt164 (34)
• United States
12 Nov 09
I first of all feel compelled to respond to the "their god" phrase. Let's try a little logic problem, shall we?
Now if you're defining god as any object of faith, or worship, well, that's at least consistent.
But if you mean to say the supreme being, the master & creator of the universe, How is it possible for there to be more than one?
Is this your god? Or something you've just imagined?
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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13 Nov 09
I agree with you, those are all things that I try to do to rekindle the flame as it were. I think we do all go through it, thanks.
@Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
12 Nov 09
I stated "their God" because not all people believe in the same thing...or the same God. I was trying to be kind to them, instead of enforcing my belief on you or someone else.
What do I believe? That there is only one God for all people.
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@mentalward (14690)
• United States
11 Nov 09
I am like you in that I am more spiritual than religious. When I'm feeling low, I think about all the people in the world who are worse off than I am. It helps me to put my problems into perspective and makes them so much easier to deal with, emotionally, at least. That, to me, makes all the difference.
Love still baffles me.
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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11 Nov 09
A very spiritual friend of mine gave me an exercise that helps. He told me to sit quietly and focus on breathing in love and breathing out peace and eventually vice versa. I like to think love is the feeling you get in your extreme spiritual moments.
I try to remember to be grateful for all the things I have rather than the things I don't, but it's not always easy. I am very blessed though, despite everything and it's good to remember that.
@greenfeathers (1206)
• United States
11 Nov 09
Oh, by being it, I guess..like giving a dollar to the fella looking for a bit of change or waving and smiling back at the little one peek-a-booing around mom at the store or being nice to someone who needs to be kicked around the parking lot a few times or helping out a friend who needs but didn't/couldn't ask..I guess what I'm saying is to be the reflection of that greater good rather than a representative of the other side...Enjoy!
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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12 Nov 09
Sharing the love is a good plan. It's like "Pass It On" and shows everyone that there is kindness and goodness in the world, whether you believe in a higher being or not.
Thank you for your input.
@wlee9696 (595)
• United States
11 Nov 09
Just keep praying. It provides solace to the soul and strengthens my faith. Give credit to God - he provides the many blessings that are bestowed upon us through the year. Little things and large things. Realize that without his help and guidance my life would go astray. Everyone experiences crisis of faith - that's when praying is even more important. Sit back and take stock of life and realize you couldn't have got here on you own.
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@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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11 Nov 09
I think gratitude for your blessings is really important. Sometimes I shock myself by realising that just by drinking a glass of clean water without thinking twice about it, I have more than countless people in the world. Our suffering is relative, but in the west we really are lucky.
@k8e630 (8)
• United States
11 Nov 09
For me, it's a matter of prayer and recognizing the small miracles that are present every day. It's easy to look at the war and famine, and feel the weight of our own problems and lose faith or at least start to wonder. But look around you. You have family or friends that love you (both, if you're lucky!). Women bring new lives into the world every day. The sun rises each morning, and even if it's not a beautiful day, at least it's a day that you get to live! Even if it turns out to be a horrible day, the miracle of you was alive for it, and will feel the joys more keenly for it.
I encourage prayer as well, even if you don't recognize a specific 'god'. Whatever higher spiritual being you feel is out there is listening. The more you attempt to connect with that entity, the more you may find yourself led to one religion or another, and there you may find a strong community to help you keep your faith.
Even if you don't feel led to a particular religion, prayer can help you remember that something is out there that loves you, cares about you, created you, and is working toward some purposeful goal for the good of all.
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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11 Nov 09
You're right. Looking at the small blessings and realising your gratitude for all you have can really perk you up.
I try to pray every night and give thanks for all the gifts I can remember that day and also in moments of recognition, like when I see something beautiful in nature.
Thanks.
@SnIcKasS (1375)
• Israel
12 Nov 09
I believe in science. Believing in God is very unclear to me. People don't want to feel alone or helpless, so they tend to think there's someone watching over them. Isn't that a little bit childish? I mean, you grow up with parents looking after you, but when you grow up you're supposed to take care of yourself, yet, you keep believing there's some old-white-bearded guy sitting on the clouds and watching only YOU.
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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13 Nov 09
It's funny. Your post kind of echoes the doubts that I have in my own mind. I often feel the same way you do and that's when I'm having these crises of faith.
I don't believe in a bloke on a cloud though. Whatever entity the source is, it's not human in my mind. I don't believe this god making man in his own image thing. We humanise deities to help us connect with them easier because I don't think people have the capacity to fully understand what the divine is. And if that helps people be a better and more fulfilled person, I don't see the harm in it.
I have experienced moments of "divinity" or "higher consciousness" or whatever you want to call it in my own life though and the energy of a friend who is an advanced healer among other things that are hard to explain here. These are the things that renew my faith. I don't think I'm meant to understand it here, but I suppose my idea is that there's a positive energy flowing through life and it's something we can tap into through our own faith, whatever that might be precisely. That's not to say I might not change my mind in the future. It's just my understanding at present.
@mrjburt164 (34)
• United States
12 Nov 09
Talk about childish! What I find about atheists is usually that they simply don't want to think that they'll have to account for their misspent lives to a god who has a perfect right to do so being their creator. Don't even start with evolution, as it violates the first law of thermodynamics to begin with!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
11 Nov 09
Like you, I am not religious, but I am spiritual. I have been blessed by seeing my world in a positive light, as the glass being continually half full (as opposed to half empty), and I see life as a perpetual roller coaster, while things will not always stay WONDERFUL, if they are bad or low at one point in time, they won't ALWAYS be.
There have been only a few seriously low times in my life where depression has set in, and those have been very situational, in most cases related directly to deaths or losses of loved ones, or to a big loss in my life of some sort. I always bounce back because at my heart, I am NOT a negative person and although I am cynical about some things, I am not apathetic or care nothing about my self and my worth is measurable, I feel that I matter. Because I have a healthy sense of that, I feel that I could likely survive almost anything - I say almost because I can't know, all I have is an idea of my own strengths and weaknesses and my experience with life thus far.
As far as reviving my faith, I constantly think of how far I have come, where I excel, and what I know I can do. There is a lot of power in yourself, whether people recognize it or realize it or not. I don't allow people to use threats or the word 'can't' or the word 'shouldn't' or any other ways of trying to stop me from accomplishing the things *I* want to. People who are successes are not successful because they never fail. They are successful because they do not let failure stop them, slow them down, or make them give up.
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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12 Nov 09
My natural go-to response to life is cynicism and I find it really difficult to overcome that instinct. I'd love to be more of a glass half full person because that natural joie de vivre is infectious and I think that positive thinking breeds positive results.
One of my mottoes to life is "This season will also change" which I think ties in with your ideas about the rollercoaster of life. Time moves on, for better or for worse and your situation, whether good or bad, will also.
I have very low self-esteem, so it's especially hard for me to look at myself with love and pride at my achievements. I often can't recognise them when they're put in front of me. That's my hurdle to jump though and it's what I need to work on so that I can have more love in my life. I love other people so much and always accept them, so it's silly that I don't turn some of that love onto myself.
@vandana7 (100282)
• India
12 Nov 09
Hi Phaedra_Scythe, I admit that in moments of crisis, god has been victim of a great deal of disrespect from me. I tend to treat him like he is my friend or somebody so I tend to be sarcastic with him. But then, I start thinking what is it that I would like at that moment, set my imagination free kind of thing, and I tell myself - well that is what god is planning for me, so if he'd given this to to me, I'd be too complacent and not look beyond. :) That is how I return to faith - if I might call it that. :)
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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13 Nov 09
It's what works for you isn't it? You find your own path towards trying to do the right thing and live your life to the best you can.
Thanks for your response!
@workingmommy (67)
• Canada
12 Nov 09
I pray and the days that I'm feeling particularly low I read the psalms and I feel much better. But what helps at other times is talking to others who do have strong faith and they can help you.
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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12 Nov 09
I have some spiritualist friends that are wonderful people and always manage to fill me with love and hope when I pop round theirs for tea. I think I'll give them a call. Thanks!
@mrjburt164 (34)
• United States
14 Nov 09
Man created religion, true, but god created man, & therefore has the perfect right to demand what he will from him.
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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14 Nov 09
But the Bible was also written by man originally. Therefore that is fallible too. It's another way to gain wisdom from each other.
@mrjburt164 (34)
• United States
14 Nov 09
Read The Bible. Investigate It's validity on independent sources. You will find more evidence than you can possibly go through in a lifetime. No, I don't mean sources from the church, Because I know that you will discount them out of hand. Those who try to disprove it's validity almost always end up the strongest believers, as they simply discover it's truth, because other than the odd mistranslation here and there, there just isn't any substantial evidence to invalidate it, and those mistranslations can be corrected by going to the original Greek, Hebrew, & Aramaic, where You will find that they arose largely from no direct translations existing.
@mrjburt164 (34)
• United States
12 Nov 09
I'm confused as to in what or whom you have placed your faith. It seems to me that this is likely your own problem. If you don't know where your faith is placed, its as easy to loose it as anything else you've misplaced.
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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13 Nov 09
Actually I know where my faith is and I'm OK with that for now. I'd rather have ideas that can change rather than beliefs that can't (I'm channelling the film, Dogma, now!)
I believe in spirituality as a fluid learning process and I don't like to have to adhere to a set list of rules from an organised religion, that's all. I find the confines too narrow. That's not to say I don't have tenets of various religions that make sense to me too, but I think religion was created by man and is therefore fallible.
@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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12 Nov 09
I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe take a leaf from the previous post and go and see some friends and family and talk it out with them. Hopefully there are people who can help you and you feel better soon.
@petertam52 (8)
• United States
11 Nov 09
I usually verify if the teachings of the religion of my choice is true or not. Applying the pricniples it teaches to your daily life. If it brings results, at least that ia a start. If it teaches honesty, righteousness, and obedience to the divine, and it brings results, keeping me from harms way, then I think that will hold my faith to the religion even in the most testing time
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@Phaedra_Scythe (3325)
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12 Nov 09
I'm glad you find the comfort and consolation that you need in your faith.