Autism and ADHD -- I think I am going nuts!
@beckysue12121 (37)
United States
November 16, 2009 1:13pm CST
Hello all!
I am the mother of a beautiful 7 year old boy, whose name is Gabriel. My son has autism (aspergers syndrom), and ADHD (severely). Lately I am worried about him, because he has been very violent, and his logic seems to be flawed when it comes to other living things. For example, I just got rid of my cat today, because my son was trying to bounce it on the floor, and shake it, and run with it (not watching where he is going). He absolutely refused to listen to me when I told him to stop being so rough with the kitty, and put it down and pet it softly. My main concern (aside from his mental wellbeing) is for my 2 1/2 month old daughter. Every time she cries, he thinks it is because she is hurt....therefore, he must go and try to hurt her. Don't worry, I know my kid, and I can tell when his psyche has taken a turn for the bad. He has never been able to get anywhere near the baby when he is in that frame of mind, but I worry. Why does he think that way?! He isn't exposed to anything like that at home or anywhere else. I supposed that it is possible that he may have seen it on TV (which is heavily monitored, but the kid still picks things up). If anybody has any suggestions for me, please let me know!
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@smileonstar (4007)
• United States
16 Nov 09
Hi,
you have boy and girl right? how cute. I have two girls, one is 5 years old and one is 20 months. They are very busy but I never experience this kind of violent thing that child can do. Well, boy is touch but not that... have you try to explain to him what is going on? have you try to ask him what he done for the day at school? sometime, he has hard day at school for some reason that he can't tell you... I see mostly kid has something to hide cuz he afraid to tell an adult, he thinks they will not believe or help him out. So, try to ask him what he does at school, do any boy pick on him? do you have friends? what are their name. You have to give him some prize while you are talking to him. make sure he feels comfortable to talk to him. And about TV, you should cut down on what he is watching... sometimes, it makes him got the thought. if he asked you why? then you say... oh, cable is out and they will not allow us to watch that show again unless we pay them or something like that.
My 5 years old daughter was a little suborn but after I tried to make her feels comfortable with me and teach her a little of good thing everyday, and give her prize once she does something right... Now, she listens to me and do what I say. Hope it helps but if you want to get more under control at once time, it will not happen cuz he is 7 years old now, but it doesn't mean it is too late... you are the mom and you can give him thing and also take it back as well. And dont forget to make sure that you are the boss not him. Good luck
@smileonstar (4007)
• United States
16 Nov 09
Hi,
sorry to hear that but... I used to deal with my nephew when I was in my country before. He was a bad boy, would hit his mom and use all bad words... you know what I did? he was not respect me at all. but not now If I said NO, then it is really mean NO to him and he would never repeat or do anything in return to me at all. well, I dont want to say what I did to him but it is really up to you. I prank him everytime he repeats what i say and if I order him anything and he acts nothing then I will scare the hell of out him. sometimes, kid is just something. over here I can't do it. I think my brother got him spoiled too much, but now he scares of me. you have to teach him some lesson of being so mean to mom.
My kids would not dare to look at me when im mad at them, everyone would run away to find a safety place when I start to scream. well, i am not evil mom but I just want them to know I am the MOM in the house and no one is BIGGER than me. well, hopely you find other way to control him... but if he is with me, trust me only one week... he will go home with peace and no more repeating thing.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Nov 09
smile dont g ive that kind of advice to a mom of an autistic
child as her child has an illness,he needs the help of a
medical specialist, she cannot handle him like a normal,
bad little kid, he would not understand any of that, she
needs real medical help and medical advice from an expert
in autism.
@revellanotvanella (4033)
• United States
29 Nov 09
did you try working with Chimes? I do not know where your located but thought you could contact them and even if their not in your area they can still give you referral in the right direction. That is actually how I found a therapist that has actually been able to help me, he's experienced in cognitive behaviorial therapy.
@charblaize (1026)
• United States
17 Nov 09
With my son, he has mild autism and SEVERE ADHD!!! He is very impulsive, demanding, independent and getting into the ODD (occupational defient disorder). The other children with the austism spectrum might not have the ADHD disorder, just the ADD or something else. The austism has many other items revolving around it. Now with my son, I have him see a therapist, a behavioral therapist comes to the house. Does he act like this in school? Could it be, that he is jealous of his sister, the cat just wanting attention? I know my son does many things just to see what I would say about it, do to him and think just to be spiteful? Since these children don't know how to communicate well, we will have to continue to repeat ourselves, TRY to stay calm, yet we have to be consistent. That, "consistent" is a big deal with this children, have a routine, and try to explain things to him. I would get him to a behavioral therapist and maybe see if there is something really bothering him, either at school or at home.
@beckysue12121 (37)
• United States
17 Nov 09
I have tried every method of dicipline in the book. The best thing for him is 1-2-3 lose a privelidge or a toy. The doctor says that his problem is that he is so ADHD that he tends to act purely on impulse. He lacks the mental energy to consider actions and consequenses and right and wrong. The ritilin helps though. He acts the same way in school, and has different behaviors with different people. He is a button pusher, plain and simple. I think he gets a kick out of seeing people react.
@charblaize (1026)
• United States
17 Nov 09
Yes, button pushers they are and I know where you are coming from with the impulsive and not understanding right from wrong. Though being consistent and standing your ground, may be hard, but does work. I sometimes have to take him away from grandma's because out there they do not abide by my rules and he knows it, so when he acts up, I will take him home. They may not like it, but I want my son to behave.
@lyzabelle (1668)
• Philippines
17 Nov 09
I do have 4 years old son. He is very active and moves a lot.
He can't talk yet except some words like Papa, mama and Lola.
He is very intelligent do. He has this habit of being irritable and
violent sometimes. You are not alone...there are many mothers in different
part of the world that has kids like this. They are somewhat different.
One thing I love about this son of mine is that he is very affectionate.
He kissed me a lot and hug me.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Nov 09
beckysue surely you know that with autism and severe adhd
you will have a child who is not normal,he will not behave
normally like other kids so if he is getting violent you
must go back to your doctor and if necessary get to a
specialist in autism as he sounds like you and he both
need help.you know that he could without really meaning
to , hurt your small baby, you have an obligation to them
both and you cannot keep thinking of him as a normal child
for he is not.The specialist can tell you why he is acting
that way and what you need to do when this happens, its not from television,you are still thinking of a normal kid,this child
'is autistic and severely so from your description,ypu need
more medical help there.
@revellanotvanella (4033)
• United States
29 Nov 09
could he be mimicking something he sees on television?
@beckysue12121 (37)
• United States
16 Nov 09
Trust me, I am very aware that he is not a normal child. The thing is, that I have noticed that the other autistic children that he goes to school with don't do those kinds of things. These are behaviors that are all his own, and I was wondering at his thought processes. The baby isn't in any danger, because she is always near me (because I am aware of the problem). His doctor is also aware of the problem, but his meds aren't working for that. I think that as he gets older he may understand that what he is doing is wrong and inappropriate, but for now the concept that we don't hurt other living things is hard for him to grasp.
@buckiem (129)
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17 Nov 09
My daughter has a 7 year old autistic boy he does not have it as severe as your boy. It is very difficult her main problem is he is still not clean and using nappies still, he has a lot of problems with constipation and leaking and she recently moved and it started him wetting the bed, I think it is because they do not like change and need to be in a constant routine even down to when he eats. And yes they do loose their tempers very quickly. Your problem might be he is picking things up from school maybe someone is picking on him and he thinks thats what he is meant to do to others it would be worth asking about.
@beckysue12121 (37)
• United States
17 Nov 09
My son is also 7, and he just got out of pull-ups last year (still uses them at night though). I don't think that he is actually angry when he is doing these things, he just doesn't realise that you can't be that rough with other living things. He does pick up a lot of his behaviors from the other disabled children in his classroom at school. I don't know why, but he enjoys being told no. I know that he knows what it means, because when he is on his meds he minds me most of the time.
@DarkMarixx (331)
• Philippines
17 Nov 09
I've thought about this before. Just a suggestion. Try to teach him some mind games like, scrabble, chess or any games that can make him focus thinking of the game and to prevent his hyper activeness. Give him more attention in playing mind games. I think there's a medicine that make him calm and cure his Autism. Try to search some tips to prevent his activeness.
@revellanotvanella (4033)
• United States
29 Nov 09
i would think he need more stimulating games like even video games and my neighbor has autism and is a avid video gamer and it helps him calm but you have to be very structured with it as he can become entirely engrossed in it so it important to have a rigid schedule around that activity but stimulation is key--he could just need that and thats why he gets carried away with the kitty.
@samawati (140)
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21 Nov 09
Of all my 27 years on this planet I have never heard of Autism around where I live , I come from Africa where this condition is not so common , I had to read on the internet in order to understand what it actually is.
I am truly compassionate with your son's condition and I hope that modern medicine evolves soon to be able to find a remedy to this problem.
@beckysue12121 (37)
• United States
21 Nov 09
I truely appreciate that you took the time to research the problem before you responded to my post. Thank you so much for your understanding and compassion, it means a lot to me.
@Ithink (9980)
• United States
17 Nov 09
I have to wonder if it isnt all due to having autism and ADHD, could it be he is acting out as he is jealous of anything that he thinks is getting any attention that he thinks should be his? I would look into seeing a specialist and talking to them. It could also be that he does need some discipline, not saying beat him or anything but really let him know that it isnt appropriate behavior.
I can only go on how my step cousin acts and my Best friends son, they both have Autism. I wish you all the best. I guess the best thing I could say is really try to get him into a specialist.
@revellanotvanella (4033)
• United States
29 Nov 09
could try some quality time as having another young one can be time consuming and he's acting out because he's unable to communicate this. Its normal for children to act out if their not getting the attention they want.
@mikeysmom (2088)
• United States
17 Nov 09
my thoughts are with you. my son has ADD and ASPERGER'S as well. my son does not have these violent issues so i am very thankful but i really feel for you and your situation. my son goes for therapy twice per month to help him cope with emotional type issues and it is very helpful. i think you need professional intervention here to determine what other help they can provide so he does not hurt himself or someone else. behavioral type therapy and perhaps some social skills as well. good luck with this.
@jugsjugs (12967)
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17 Nov 09
I have an ADHD appointment with my 7 year old son tomorrow.I know how you feel as my son smashed up the classroom every week as well as kicked and punched the teachers and the helpers at his school.The school puts him in a room where there are only bean bags when he gets like that as well as takes his shoes off so that he can not hurt anyone.When he has calmed down he then returns to class to have the one to one teaching.I tried the approach like the school has to take him away from others so he do not hurt them,not easy when you have 5 other children.Go to the dr again and ask for more help as well as more support,if you do not ask for the help or the support then you will not get it.Good luck.
@junmae (1586)
• Philippines
17 Nov 09
My baby brother suffers from ADHD and It really hurts when somebody doesnt understand his situation. He is hyperactive but not violent, he is just hurting his self unconciously. I alove my brother so much that's why i encourage my mom to take him in the school of special child and i contribute for the fees. I am happy that eventually he is changing although very gradual but it is enough at least i know that my brother will change someday. He was also checked by a Doctor and recommend to in a school of special child.
@victoriousm (86)
• United Arab Emirates
17 Nov 09
Hi, I can only relate with you about ADHD. One of my nephews has it. He's hyperactive, has very short attention span (he gets easily bored), sometimes he talks too much, he sleeps very late at night (usually in the morning), loves to play a lot. ADHD is not really a mental disease but a behavioural disorder; still something is wrong with their brain chemicals. Anyway, these kind of children will not listen to logic. It's probably best that you consult a psychologist. We did that for my nephew. The child will be given proper care/guidance and the parents will be given advice on what activities the child should be engaged to. Autistic children may not want to be exposed to people. Sometimes they don't like too much noise, and they will cover their ears. But, I think that you should introduce your kid to other children. The story you related about the cat - my assessment is that your son was only playing with the cat, but of course he didn't know that he's hurting the cat. Give him some small tasks or responsibility at home, like asking his help to fetch the towels, or to fold his clothes, or to carry a small basket for you. But, don't let him near the baby, he might suffocate her (just a precaution). I hope your boy will grow up to be a regular kid. Good luck!