My son has already a girlfriend and he is just 12 years old.
@celestial052506 (2914)
Philippines
November 20, 2009 11:48am CST
I can't believe it myself but it happen to my son. He keep it a secret to me at first because he is scared I might get angry to him. He told my best friend about it and I felt jealous why he told other people but not me? It makes me realize that I have to be understanding about it so that he will not hide anything from me. But still I don't agree with it. I just give him advice. The annoying thing is that, he asked money to buy gift for his girlfriend. What do you think is the best thing to do about this?
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@hagirl (1295)
• United States
22 Nov 09
My son was 15yo when he had s*x for the first time..... I did not have the s*x talk which was my fault... The girl was 14yo.... Her mom and I was talking on her aunts porch and my son asked if he could show his girlfriend where he goes fishing... We both agreed they could go not having any ideal that they would have s*x...My son did not tell me for over a month.... Of course, I was mortified but had to act calm to get information..... I asked him about protection and talked to him about the dangers of having s*x without protection..... I also had to explain the experience in detail so he would understand that it should have been when he got older and with someone he loves..... Then I went home and called his mother because I thought it was my obligation as a mother to do this.... According to some of the things my son told me, it was not this little girls first time..... Of course, her mom cussed me out and told me I was crazy.... Her girl denied and started crying.... I told her mom Tell her you are going to take her to the hospital to find out if she is a v*rgin or not.... Then her little girl fessed up.... You know that woman never spoke to me again..... The girls father told the mother to call me and apologize and she would not ..... He told her that she should thank me because I was concerned for our children.... My son used to ask for money all the time for the very same things.... I do not think it would be appropriate unless you are rich and can afford it until they get atleast dating age 16yo or whatever age you have set in your home....
@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
that's the thing I am scared of when they reach to that point at an early age. Sure enough we must give moral lectures to them specially to my son at 12? I don;t know who influenced him to do that? according to him, the girl is the one flirting.. I don;t know if it is true.
@hagirl (1295)
• United States
25 Nov 09
Unfortunately, he is probably right.... I am not condoning anything by any means... but it may not be the parents fault.... These you girls are learning to be independent and they take it to the heel.... Although their parents are teaching them this independence i do not think they are teaching them as far as some of these girls are going..... I am a preachers daughter and thank God i did not grow up as a female in this world...... I probably would be pregnant at 16.... The girls are having more peer pressure at school and the shows that show these women being independent are usually about single women raising children on their own while going to school and working full time..... Think about it is a inspirational story for a single mother out there but I wonder how our young daughters perceive these movies..... We make it look so simple yet if they are faced with the challenges after it is already to late they find out differently.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
22 Nov 09
The money issue, and the girlfriend issue, are two different things.
First, the money cause it's easy. I'm 33 now, and I grew up in a household that taught me the value of money. How? By not giving it to me. WHAT?! Shocking I know, but my parents actually had me earn my money. Funny thing about earning money, when you do that, you learn the value of it.
When you hand out money on a silver platter, not only do you teach them money is easy and simple to get, but you also teach them to blow money on frivolous things. A habit that can destroy marriages and lives, later on in life.
Oh, and another useful lesson that can be learned, is the life isn't fair, and it's ok. I went to an upper middle class school system. While most people were driving to school in mommy and daddies BMW and Porche, I was driving a B2000 Mazada pickup '86 (what I could afford). Was it fun? No. But I learned that it's ok that others have things I do not.
So my answer to asking for money, for a girlfriend or otherwise, is no. Start mowing the lawn, or taking out the trash, cleaning the floors. Oh and not $50 bucks a lawn either. If I can get a lawn service for $20, then I'll pay him $10-$15, since it's my mower and my gas. Now once it's his money, let him use it for whatever he wants.
Now back to the girlfriend.
This is a bit tough. Where's the father? Boys relate to fathers more than mothers (logically). So does he have a good relationship with his father? If not, then it is possible he is compensating for that lack by getting a girlfriend. Also why does he not want to tell you? Are you overbearing, controlling, or emotional?
My own mother at one point was emotional. If I told her anything she'd get bent one way or another. Angry, flippant, sad, scared, worried... and so on. I understood that this was simply the way she was, but that doesn't make me want to tell her anything, and... I didn't.
Instead I always talked to my father. He was way more approachable, and I could talk to him about anything. Still can really. My mother has improved on this greatly, but even today, if given the choice of spending time alone with either one, I'd choose my father.
I would say rebuilding, or beginning to build a relationship with your son, is a far more important issue than the girl friend. I'd let that run it's course. I highly doubt they'll be setting a wedding date.
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@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
23 Nov 09
Not shocking at all. I was raised the same way. My father saved his money well and left my mother very well off when he passed away. He could have afforded to buy me anything I or any of my siblings wanted, but he didn't. He would loan us the money interest-free when we were adults, but as kids we had to earn our own way. I remember wanting to buy a record (by K-tel!) and my mother deducted the amount ($4.00 back then) from my allowance. She also held back part of my allowance every week until I had enough to pay my share of the bike I wanted. Kids today have it way too easy.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
Very well said and good advice. Honestly, I am not that hard to my kids for them not to tell me whatever their whereabouts? actually, my husband is not around with us..he works abroad. I am the only one taking of the 3 of them. I don;t know why he did not tell me at first.. maybe because I always tell them to concentrate in their studies and not anything else. That;s maybe the reason.. He keep it a secret at first.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
25 Nov 09
Well just to clarify, it's not actually about being 'hard' on them. That's part of it, but that's not the whole thing.
My mother was never hard on me. Not in the slightest. There were things that she was strong about, and others she was soft on, but she really wasn't hard on me.
The problem I had with my mother was, she got emotional about stuff.
It's a bit like this church group I stopped going too. The lady that ran the group was always emotional, and that might appeal to some, but not me. If someone had something sad happen, she'd start crying in 30 seconds. If someone had a good day, she'd be bouncy and happy. Then more bad news, and right back to crying.
It's simply not fun to talk to people, when you never know what's going to set them off.
And again, boys relate more to men, and girls relate more to women. It's simply natural. A boy will be more likely to talk and relate to his father about a girl friend, than he will to his mother. Are their exceptions? Of course. But this is why having a father figure is so important for boys growing up.
I learned this many years later, but my father actually had this conversation with my mother. He told her directly that it was unrealistic on her part to expect that she is going to have the same close relationship with me, as she does with my sister.
So, I don't know if any of this applies to you, or if it at all helps, but try not to be over burden and jealous because your son isn't as open with you, as he might be with someone else. It isn't personal. Just be there for him as much as possible. Remember that you are the parent, not the best friend. You are there to teach him about being an adult, not trade baseball cards, and play video games with him.
@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
20 Nov 09
Things like this seem to happen at a younger and younger age. I understand you may not be ready for it. I don't think I would be either. But the fact is that it has happened. Just take it slowly and let your son know you are there for him.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
that's what I want also,, for him to focus on his studies.. but the young today are different from yesterdays... I need more patience.
@SACHIN2708 (1634)
• India
20 Nov 09
ya it happens in this age but it is not good for future ,I think it is time to give attention on his study but I think if parent will scold him so he will not understand anything you should take time to him to forget each and everything and remind him for making future right?
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@bryanwmc (1051)
• Malaysia
20 Nov 09
And they call it puppy love.My 9 year daughter also goes around telling all she has a boyfriend,family's friends son,then she also told me she is sharing her boyfriend with her best friend,so not sure whether your 12 yr old knows exactly what girlfriend means,their version is very different with older teens,i think it is a good sign,hormones speaking.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
Well, I just hope it is just a puppy love not a serious one. that is just ridiculous at that age. hmmmm!!!!
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
20 Nov 09
Hi celestial.
First of all, you should start a well planned campaign to earn his trust, to become his closest friend, to feel free to talk things with you. That is very important for his future and also for your family future. Right now it sounds he preffer to hold for himself or talk senzitive things with .. strangers ..
As about gift for his gf .. if is her birthday or something, is ok, if not, you should try hard to do the above in order to later teach him how to manage a relation with a girl without being necessary to buy her gifts ..
Oh, don't forget to make him to enjoy bring and introduce his gf to you .. and you must play the good-cop role ..
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
hahaha so you mean bebs, you also have a teen ager like mine who has a problem like this. I like tha advice of wmraul too. This seems will work..
@SACHIN2708 (1634)
• India
20 Nov 09
OH wow he has girlfriend at this age ,I think I should learn something from your son because I am 24 years old but still I dont have any girl friend well actually that is just attraction but I dont think in this age it is good for hin,I confessed that time has been changed but it is a peak time to make future and learn other things ,you should make him undertand in nice manner but do not scold hin other wise he will not undersatnd anything
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
hahaha... SACHIN, you might ask my son how he did it.. Nice advice from you and for bebs too.. we have the same idea... thanks for you both.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
21 Nov 09
Umm... better have that talk with him as soon as possible. Tell him that he is young and that he needs to enjoy his youth because he only gets to be young once.
I did not have a boyfriend until I was an adult. Seriously, no real romantic relationship until I was 22.
When I was 12, I listened to Hanson and read comic books. Yes, I listened to boy bands and read comic books. I was not ready at all for a relationship. I am almost 25 right now, and even though I have a boyfriend, we still act like kids. We are not ready for marriage and a family. We are still young and we want to have fun before it's all over with.
Tell your son to find a hobby. Video games will get him away from the girls, so will comic books, card games (I suggest Magic the Gathering), and sports. Tell him to focus on school first and the women will come later.
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@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
25 Nov 09
You can rent video games or buy them used. My boyfriend and I do because we love video games.
Honestly, he needs to really focus on school right now. If he wasn't a scholarship for college, and believe he is going to need it when he gets there, he better make sure that his grade are beautiful and that he passes his ACTs and SATs. I hear that when his age group gets to college it's going to cost a fortune.
@rogue13xmen13 (14402)
• United States
25 Nov 09
I meant "wants a scholarship". Sorry.
But seriously, tell him to focus on his studies and mastering the four basic subjects.
@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
that is my goal now, to find him something to focus on.. like sports and anything that will not cost money. Video games cost a lot too. I am still thinking of what else.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
21 Nov 09
It seems that kiss are dating younger and younger all the time. When my kids were that age I told them no dating until age 16. They didn't start until after they were 18 the same with my grandkids. This was back quit a few years. First off I would set your son down and have the s3x talk make sure he understands about all The STDs. After that give him some ground rules, hen and where he can see her. But I also wouldn't give him any money to buy her gifts. If you do the gift is coming from you. If he gets an allowance he can use that money. If not have him earn it. Give him some extra chores around the house. Things like washing windows. He will the n learn that girlfriends cost money.
@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
hahaha!! that's a good idea!! I never have thought of that. It might work for him to be responsible.
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@sizzle3000 (3036)
• United States
20 Nov 09
It's ok for someone that age to have a girlfriend. Just make sure it doesn't go any farther thatn hand holdong or a peck on the cheek. As for asking for money if he doesn't have an allowance than I don't see where this is too much. This is where you can take control and show him how minor this is. This isn't a for the rest of your life relationship just one of many but you still don't want to be careless.
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@Bebs08 (10681)
• United States
24 Nov 09
that's the thing that sometimes I lost control because you know our economic crisis today. We have only enough for our needs and that is too much extra... but anyway, I don;t want to be mean to him. I will just explain to him that he needs to sacrifice using his allowance for that.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
I do too. I lost control when things are so hard and then here comes the extra gift for a girl friend.. at a young age? I agree bebs
@derek_a (10873)
•
21 Nov 09
I wouldn't worry too much. When I was 12 years old, I had a girlfriend and had some strong feeling for her. Unfortunately, she was not staying in my country and we had a painful parting.
This was back in the 1960s and I dare not tall my parents in those days. I went through many weeks of emotional pain and never told anyone why I was feeling that way.
If it was my son, I would explain to him about sexuality and the problems of getting involved, but I would not try and put him off as knowing my son, this would only cause him to want it even more. I would also need to know if the young girl's parents were aware, if not I believe they would have to know about it. They may even object. But the problem would remain that the more adults would try to break them up, the more likely they would be to see each other behind our backs. It is far better to get these things out into the open. Kids are shown so many adult relationships on TV these days, that they are bound to want to explore such relationships themselves. It is only natural.. - Derek
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@derek_a (10873)
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25 Nov 09
If this was me, I would need to find out for myself if the girl's parents were aware and what they thought about the relationship. When something is right out in the open, then we are able to see any potential problems that may be around the corner and nip them in the bud.
This may seem like interfering but there are some instances when we need to interfere in our kids lives, but at the same time be totally open about it. When things are hidden and secret, then we tend to worry about it.
My father had to interfere with the affairs of all my sisters, and once or twice with me. None of us like such interference at the time, but now we are grateful because we may have ended up going down a slippery slope and ruining our futures. - Derek
@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
That's right!! I think you have a point in this issue. I have no idea also if the girl's parents know about this. The scary thing is that the girl's father is a lawyer. This might be too hard if something goes wrong with this relationship,
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@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
21 Nov 09
Parents should be understanding with their children in all the aspect so that their children respect them totally. Even if their children having in that kind of relationship. parents should be reasonable enough for the children will not discourage on their actions...
If the kid ask for money to buy gift for his girl friend just talk it in a better way for not disappointing the kid. It's not bad to tell with kid about the important of one relationship before allowing him/her to enter in that relationship...
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
Well, it is not really easy to deal with this kind of thing. I need more understanding and patience to deal with it.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
Well, I do agree with you, my friend. Perhaps, it is good to talk to your children for better understanding about the situation that he have...I know it's hard to deal with young people nowadays but if we talk them with love I don't think they refuse what we are talking about...
@sasalove (1709)
• China
22 Nov 09
I think the young bud is going to have flowers in their age. If you suppress it more, the negative result is much. That is why your son prepfer to tell others and not you as he think that you will oppose it for sure. 12 years old kid is in the age of reverse psycology.
You should let him know that you care him too much and allow him to contact with the girl. But he should behave himself or you can list the prohibition. Study is the most important thing in his age, and he also has the right to make friends. Respect is the basic thing between you and your son. You can lead to another direciton if you can manage well for the same situation.
Have a nice day.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
I just hope he can manage to make god in his studies in spite of having an early relationship. I should say is just a joke at that age.
@sasalove (1709)
• China
25 Nov 09
Maybe you are too sensitive on this issue, your son may want to make friends only, but just too close with the friend and this friend happened to the girl. I did remember when I am 12 years old, I have my secrect admirer and we form an improving power in my study. I think it is not a bad thing if you could direct him correctly.
@rjvb26 (2518)
• Philippines
21 Nov 09
Be proud at least you know that your son knows how to love another person and how to make other people happy, be proud at least you know that your son is growing, your son can experience this things. There are kids who do not know nothing but themselves and the things that they could get form their parents. Know nothing but selfish thinking as they are only a child. But your son, is good, and mature enough to do things. Let him do things his own way with your guidance, guidance only, never decide what you think will hurt your son, and will make him rebel to you. It is ok for that age to have a girlfriend but be sure to guide him properly and always stay at his side as a parent and as a friend. If something goes wrong, don;t you think it is right to comfort him. Don't you think it is right to explain him things that it is the way of love. If all is good and going strong, then be happy, if not then be on his side. That is all, and i hope this helps. Thank you so much.
@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
I would really hope that this relationship would make him a responsible kid and would definitely encourage him to study harder and get good grades,
@rjvb26 (2518)
• Philippines
21 Nov 09
O and additional, it is ok if he tells it to your best friend first before you cause he is scared and you should understand that. And one thing those relationship can make your son motivated to study hard in school, and if something bad happens, be on his side so he cannot be demotivated. I hope this really helps.
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@MadRooster (51)
• Portugal
21 Nov 09
Thats not the kind of stuff boys like to tell their mother because... well... mothers usually overreact.
If he asked for money, I would tell you to give him.
About giving him advices... no offense but that is more a father business.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
I don;t think only the father could give advice to things like this to their teen age boys? I would think both parents would do it so that the child would understand. who knows what the father would say to him?
@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
23 Nov 09
I don't have boys, but I have two daughters. I made a rule right from the get-go that they could not date, wear make-up, drive, wear bikinis, etc., until they are 16 years of age. My 16yo has been great. She doesn't care to bare her body, only wears a bit of mascara because she has blonde hair with pale lashes, and hasn't really shown any interest in boys until now. However, last week I happened to be driving by when I saw my 13 year old daughter reach out and hug and kiss a boy on the cheek. I was dumbfounded. When I confronted her I kept my cool about it but she lied saying it was just a friendly hug and that she didn't kiss him. I was sure she had kissed him but the sun was shining right between them so I gave her the benefit of the doubt... until I followed up with a neighbour. Her son was there was when this occurred and had immediately told his mom because he saw me drive by.
I confronted her again, adding that she had now lied to me. I explained the reason for the rule... guys are not satisfied with just that. They want more. It is inappropriate for a girl her age. I had also spoken to the boy's mother who also did not approve of the physical aspect, but didn't really object to him having a girlfriend as he had had one before. I said there is no boyfriend/girlfriend and hands off. They can be friends and hang out with other friends together (they haven't though).
I guess I was in the right place at the right time. They had only been "together" for a week. Apparently that was the first time that had happened. A little disturbing though that she was the one who made the first move. In talking to other parents I found that they weren't comfortable with these kids hugging all the time, but I guess I am the first one to take a stand and put an end to it. My daughter lost her cell phone for a full week because she broke the rule, lied to me, and snuck out that evening while I was out. (Turns out she was in the neighbour's house while I was talking to the mother of the boy that had been there, and while I talked to the "boyfriend's" mother on the phone, in that house).
Kids' brains aren't fully developed until they are about 21. There is no way they can make any smart calls at that age. I am here to guide her and protect her and lead her in the right direction. I can't keep an eye on her 24 hours a day but we do talk about the boy. I think I handled the situation well (not once raising my voice) and I spoke to my husband about it and together we told her what her punishment was.
She hid it from me because she knew it was wrong. That what I feel may be the situation with your son... he didn't tell you because he thought you would disapprove. Honestly, he is way too young to have a girlfriend. JMHO.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
I absolutely agree with you idea and rules. It is always good to guide our young children about having early relationship with a girl/boy. I think, my boy was just allured because he said the girl is the one making move for him. She is always inviting my boy to their church and attend whatever program they have... Well, I think, even if mine is a boy, he must be careful. They are too young.
@ladym33 (10979)
• United States
21 Nov 09
Well most likely it is very innocent at least hopefully it is. If they are just talking on the phone and not really having any alone time together it is probably OK, although I do think it is a bit young, but it really depends on how serious it is. Are they seeing each other a lot outside of school or is this more of a school thing? Are they ever together where there are no adults around? If they are not I would not worry about it too much. I would encourage him to talk to me about it though.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
They are not going out alone as what I know. That is the thing that I am always reminding him.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
23 Nov 09
You should tell him you were hurt he didn't come to you first to tell you he had a girlfriend and that next time he should let you know. That way you can talk to him about the way you feel. I would also suggest having him do chores to earn the money to buy the gift for his girlfriend, that way he will learn how to work for money (if he doesn't already) and he will be more likely to pick out a great gift for the girl.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
it is really a good idea to let our kids work for the money they want to spend for a girl.. they should know that money is not that easy to get and that they would treasure the things they bought because they made it with hard work.
@Fightinghard (37)
• China
21 Nov 09
Don't be angry with him. This is very important. Just lead him how to do, you can tell him some cases and let him know the bad. Besides, your and your wife should give your son more love and pay more time on him if you did't in the past. Maybe he feels lonely, so he......Of course, you should be patient!
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
Well, I am the mother, my husband is not here with us.. He is working abroad. Only me and my 3 kids are at home that is why I am alone dealing with this worries for my son.
@Picquarian (724)
• United States
21 Nov 09
Sometimes kids feel uncomfortable discussing things like these with parents. They are scared of "the talk." Explain that you are not going to judge him, but you are his parent so you want what is best for him. This relationship will not last (12 years old, no, I don't think so.) Just try to be there for him. Young love is sweet and shouldn't be discouraged, but explain to him that certain behavior at his age isn't acceptable.
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@celestial052506 (2914)
• Philippines
24 Nov 09
Oh!! that's a sound idea? You are right!! young love will not last forever but we must be vigilant..