Why start a discussion you have no interest in and will not follow?
By StarBright
@StarBright (2798)
United States
November 21, 2009 5:07pm CST
I see Mylot members start more than a half dozen discussions at once. That in itself is fine. We are free to do whatever we want. I understand that, before you bristle and respond with that answer. When I read the responses, I see pertinent questions that go unanswered by the starter. it seems to me that a discussion is a give and take proposition and it is nothing short of rude to ignore mylot posters who take the time to respond to you.
Is there more money in starting discussions? I can do that. I am here as much for fun as I am for the money. I don't think I can give up my day job for Mylot. .
Frankly, I have started skipping those posters who appear to simply ask questions just for the sake of asking a question. I lean toward the mylotters whom I feel are genuinely interested in the topic they start. I would think there are other ways to earn more for those people whose ONLY goal is to make money. Am I being over-sensitive about this? Please help me out on this. Tell me your feelings on this issue.
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21 responses
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
22 Nov 09
Hi StarBright, it is simply rude to not respond to all responses received, as people have made an effort to respond. Also when the poster does not respond it cannot be described as a discussion as no discussion takes place. There is certainly no money to be made by posting a discussion and then ignoring the responders but after a while they usually post a discussion asking why their earnings are low even though they get responses to their discussions. Also a lot of people get bored with that sort of poster and stop responding to them as it is just rude of them not to reply.
People will defend not replying by saying they don't have time, but they have time to post another discussion. Or there are those who just respond to those who only agree with them, or get bored after the first 5 responses. Make a discussion about something which you're interested in and respond back with interest and then interaction develops and one starts to have popular discussions which are fun.
By the way I did a very similar discussion to this ages ago and most of the views co-incided with mine and a few said they'd never realised how it looked by not responding back, or that it made a difference to their earnings, so actually started to change their ways. Others you just can't advise and they just selectively respond when they can be bothered.
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@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Thanks, thea09. It is nice when someone actually reads your post and understands what you are trying to convey. The intent of mylot is good. I would hate to see it destroyed just because people come on here solely for the purpose of making a few dollars.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
22 Nov 09
The irony being that posting then ignoring does not earn them a few dollars. A good tip I recommend is always check this out when you consider a F/R, take a look at a few of their started discussions beyond the first page and see if they've had the courtesy of responding to all. I got fooled once as I found someone on my list actually copied and pasted the exact same response to everyone so immediately deleted them.
I actually ended up with a discussion the other week which had 126 responses, way too many I thought, but was still suprised to find original responses coming up at page 10 and responded to all without it being work.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Thanks Thea09. I'm learning. Great tip. That is what I have started doing. Checking out the history first.
@jugsjugs (12967)
•
21 Nov 09
I think there are alot of people that do start off alot of posts and i think that is a good thing alot of the time as in the past when i have come on here there has been hardly no new discussions that are todo with anything that i either know about to reply to or there are only one or two that i can reply to.So with people posting alot of discussions that gives me something to do.I find there are alot of people out there just like me that can not get round to answering alot of the responses as there are only so many hours in a day and i do have a house to run as well as 6 children to look after.
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@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Jugsjugs, I am not complaining about the amount of time anyone spends on mylot. I am merely suggesting that you bite off only what you can chew. It is perfectly OK with me if I don't see a lot of activity from any one member. I am not monitoring the number of posts a member makes. However, a discussion requires give and take. If you post a discussion, post only as many as you can manage. That is what makes sense to me.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
PS Hats off to you for managing six kids and having time for mylot. I;m sure it isn't easy.
@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
22 Nov 09
The dictionary defines "discussion" as an examination by argument; a sifting of the considerations for and against; talking things over. Therefore, a discussion involves more than one person. Posing a question is NOT a discussion.
Over the years we have seen a number of people who start question after question, and never return to check any comments received. I recently saw one discussion stating his intention of posting 100 discussions a day (deleted by myLot as indeed it should have been) I have seen discussions which are evidently made up, posing all sorts of problems and desperately seeking advice - advice which they never return to see (or if they do, leave no responses).
"Once bitten, twice shy" works against them. They will soon find that myLotters will not respond to their discussions, but ignore them, as you say you have done. Yes, they are rude and they are using the system.
We need to bear in mind, of course, that some people have genuine reason for not responding, or at least not doing so for a period. I know some have suddenly taken ill or had an emergency or lost their computer for a time and were not able to respond.
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@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Hi, cloudwatcher. I am a reasonable person. My observations take into account the possibility that something happens and mylotters have to go away for periods of time. I have not always been as active or consistent as I would like to be. I am targeting, specifically, those posters who abuse and mis-use the system. I, too, went back and looked up the word "discussion" to be sure I was not over-reacting. Thanks for understanding.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
26 Nov 09
I can accept that, dorcam. I like that you care enough to read your responses. It we can see that you did respond to some posts, I think we feel better. The response is the only way of knowing if anyone is listening.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Nov 09
hi starbright sometimes mydiscussions went unanswered because I suffered a calmity in my life that ended up with us homeless and all our belonging in storage, including my precious computer and monitor. now i sure as heck did not expect to be in those circumstances and I am sure a lot of my lotters wondered why i had not commented on their responses. I am doing that now as I have been back for three months. What I am saying is give a little slack as some may have some damned good reasons why they have not responded like illness,lost of jobs, fore closures, been in the hospital, life is not always predictable. Also we only get paid for the first two responses to our discussions,what we do get paid for are the comments we make to the responses so I have really been working on getting caught up with those myself. so some others may also have legitimate reasons why they have not commented back so wait a while. okay?
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Oh Hatley, I am so sorry about your problems. No one should have to be homeless. I am happy that you are back. I am not talking about mylotters who, for whatever reason, go away and stop posting altogether. Nobody understands better than I that s!@# happens. I am talking about those mylotters who are here all of the time and all they do is start discussion. They never resolve any of the previous discussions that they started. They just continue to ask questions.
@d_e_v81 (360)
• Singapore
22 Nov 09
Hi StarBright,
Im just getting a hang of this mylot arena. I have posted some discussions (my first few) which I would really like to discuss about but so far only one person has responded and he has mia'ed. haha.
So I was lookin around for some posts I would like to respond to and stumbled upon yours. Im only planning to mylot every Sunday cos it is more like a hobby to me. I don't think I would having fun here if it were only for the money.
I also notice you can make friends here to respond to each other's post? Can I add yea up? I dont wanna just go about randomly adding people in case I get kicked out or something :p
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
d_e_v81, welcome to the Mylot family and thank you for responding. I like your approach to Mylot. It is a lot of fun. I have been here for 3 years now and enjoy it very much. I consider it a hobby that gives me a little pocket change on the side. It will not replace the day job .
Read the guidelines. It is a short list and fairly simple and straight forward. You should not have to worry about getting kicked off. Sunday on Mylot is a great pastime.
Friends do respond to each other's posts but that is because they share a common interest. I cannot imagine anyone ONLY responding to a friend's post. There are many interesting topics raised and I am sure most of us have no problem putting our 2-cents in when something catches our interest, no matter who starts the discussion. We just want to know that the discussion starter is sincere in wanting an answer, and not posting mindless questions that they themselves have no interest in.
I am delighted to be your friend. I look forward to seeing you here on Mylot. Happy mylotting.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Hi there StarBright,
No there is not more money in starting a discussion. There is no money after 2 responses unless the person who started the discussion actually participates in the discussion. I see a lot of this too. Quite often they are new and just don't know. Sometimes I'll get on and answer their question and also let them know all this. Thing with that is that they probably don't even see the response to know and so nothing is learned. I can only imagine that after a while they would get bored pretty quickly and move on.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
23 Nov 09
Thanks for the info, sid556. I did not know about the 2 response rule until this discussion. I was pretty sure there was no more money to be made by just posing questions . MyLot is pretty closed mouthed about their earnings formula.
I don't really want anyone to leave. The bigger the community the more variety we have here. I am hoping to change their hearts and minds so we have a better MyLot.
@ronnyb (6113)
• Jamaica
22 Nov 09
Well I understand where you are coming from and I can understand how someone who is passionate about writing would feel about persons who are just taking advantage of the system here for monetary gain.However I have always held the belief that mylot is for all kinds of people,the writing puritan,the money hunters ,those who like to help ,social networkers and many others.I just do what I am here to do and that is basically to partake of all theat mylot can offer and I wont judge another person,we all can peacefully co-exist.
With regards to persons who start many discussions ,I just respond to as many as I can because that is my reason for being here.I dont feel anyway about the writer but thats just me .
Great discussion though
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
23 Nov 09
Hi, Ronnyb: I don't think Mylot is a forum to fulfill a passion for writing. There are many more productive ways to do that. I don't have a problem with anyone taking advantage of the system here for monetary gain altho there are more productive ways to do that, too. One of the advantages of being a MyLot member is that you get paid while you enjoy the give and take of the discussions. I like that MyLot is for all kinds of people as you describe. The collective experience makes for a more interesting forum. Forgive me if I was not clear in my post and gave the impression that I objected to any member's purpose for being here on Mylot. I merely want MyLot members to follow the purpose of MyLot, not spoil it for the rest of us, and not be rude. All of us can peacefully co-exist and find our way here without riding roughshod over anyone else. I don't think that is asking too much.
If each of us does as you say, ie, partake of all that mylot can offer and do what we are here to do within the mylot guidelines; and if we do it in a professional and courteous manner then there is no reason why we can't peacefully co-exist. That is just stating a fact without being judgmental. MyLot should work for everyone, not just the few who choose to make their own rules as they try to short-circuit the system. Happy mylotting.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
23 Nov 09
May2k8, I can understand how it can be confusing when you read all of the different points of view on a given topic. Some are saying "Yes", others are saying "No" and another group is saying "Maybe." Still others are so passionate about the topic of discussion that they become extremely angry. Often, the discussion starters add little facts as they go that were not disclosed in the original post.
You should not get a headache from Mylot. It's supposed to be fun. Respond only to those discussions that interest you. Then you will not be bored. You may want to check out the discussions that have zero responses first. I like to mix some of these in, because they are fresh and I can give my opinion and have a discussion with the starter without having to look at pages and pages of what anyone else has to say. It is faster and simpler. You also help the members who may otherwise not get any attention.
Do not think of topics you start as interesting or not interesting. If they interest you, that is what is important. Since mylotters are all over the world, you never know what mylotters want to discuss on any given day. Some topics are universal and others are not. Sometimes it is surprising what is of interest to the world. We are all so different and yet so much alike. I have found news items that I thought would light up the airways, only to find that no one cared. Other times, I have been amazed and surprised to find some questions that struck a universal nerve.
Happy mylotting.
@VANILLAREY (1470)
• India
26 Nov 09
There are many discussion which does not require a response from the author. There are times when the author does not know what to say to a response. Besides Mylot does not pay for posts within ones own discussion.
If the discussion is for knowing something then it is appropriate for the author to thank people with good response.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
28 Nov 09
Oh dear Vanillarey, I understand when sometimes you are absolutely "speechless" when attempting to respond to some posts. People do say the darndest things.
Mylot is very closemouthed about the formula they use to calculate pay for posting. However, I think you need to check with them regarding what you get paid for. It is my understanding that you get paid for everything you post. You are expected to respond to people who answer your starting post. That is what makes it a discussion. On the other hand, Mylot discourages responses that do nother but thank posters.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
22 Nov 09
Hello, StarBright. I get annoyed at this, and I have removed quite a few serial discussion starters from my friends list. I tend to respond rather than start discussions, but when I do start one, I check back on it each time I log on, and nobody goes without a comment unless they say something rude or stupid.
MyLot is about more than money - it's about having fun in quality discussions and making new online friends. Strangely enough, most of us find that when we forget about the money and concentrate on the discussions, our earnings go up. You're not being over sensitive, but don't waste time on the serial starters - give them a wide berth and look for the quality discussion starters. Quite a few of them have already responded to this one.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
23 Nov 09
Thank you Sandra1952. You are so right. I like your attitude here. I feel the same way. I am learning to avoid the serial starters (good phrase). They are indeed annoying (another good description). I am pleased at the responses to this discussion. It is much more than I could have ever hoped for. Thanks.
@corrycrystal (1775)
• Malaysia
26 Nov 09
Hi, StarBright!
I guess as we go through some discussions, we know which members will do a follow up on their discussions, so, I think it's better to ignore those posters who just post any random discussions, but have no interest to do a follow up. Since they are not interested to comment back then, I guess it is no use to respond to their discussions. I don't mean to point those members who are unable to respond in a short time, but the 'subject' of this discussion.
I also don't understand WHY start a discussion if they don't want to respond? Even after weeks and months?? But then they will start another discussion after another. I have always pondered over to this one question.
So, I don't think you are being over-sensitive about this because every member like you who knows the real meaning of discussions will find it's pointless to respond to a discussion and it's not even called a discussion if there is no feedback from the poster.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
28 Nov 09
Hi, Corrycrystal, it is strange that anyone would start a conversation that they have no interest in. I think they don't see it that way. They are too busy chasing the Mylot pay. Anytime you put money first, you will usually have an inferior product. I have always believed that you do what you enjoy and the money follows. Oddly, I don't think any of those offenders have responded to this post to defend themselves.
@inedible (768)
• Singapore
23 Nov 09
They probably believe that starting discussions gets them more money. I think there are probably a few who do want to respond but find nothing good to respond to (like maybe they're only receiving generic or stupid replies, or they disagree with the responses but are worried about starting an argument or flame war), but a lot of the topics I see started by those non-responding chain-posting discussion people tend to be short and not very interesting (and often stupid) questions. Those who chain-post good, well-thought-out questions tend to respond. Maybe not to all, but at least to a few.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
26 Nov 09
I guess we do have to consider the source. When we look at the question, sometimes, they are not always interesting. But, there are some that really have potential and people have sincere feelings about the topic in question. Some even call for help with a problem in their life. They tug at your heart strings and make you want to find them and help them personally. Then they just turn their backs and walk away.
@llyyaa (14)
• Philippines
22 Nov 09
Hi starbright, im fairly new here and have yet to start a discussion but if and when I start one, i'm going to make sure to follow-up on it and nudge others to respond. You just can't force others to respond if they don't like what you've started, it's a free world, you do as you please. I am still thinking of a discussion that others won't ignore. Peace!
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
23 Nov 09
Welcome to MyLot llyyaa. If my rant helped one person, then it is well worth it. I look forward to your posts. Just be sure the discussion is one that interests you as well.
I have no intention of trying to force others to respond to me or any other MyLot member. I am not talking about discussions I start. I am talking about discussions others start and never monitor. As I said in an earlier response, to me it is like turning your back and walking away from someone whom you asked for help. That is rude anywhere you go.
"All I'm asking is a little respect when you come home. R E S P E C T, Find out what it means to me. Ohhh shoop shoop shoop." Courtesy of Aretha Franklin
Happy MyLotting.
@bdugas (3578)
• United States
22 Nov 09
I find that mostly people that post on here want to vent their rage at something that made them mad, or have an opinion and want to express it but not really interested in answering your reply to them. And sometimes this is best because when they do take the time to respond to what you wrote, if it is not the same opinion as theirs then it becomes a argument. I have come to understand that sometimes I get a reply back and sometimes I don't, I try to keep up with what has been said if I start a discussion, but some got so many going that they lose track. I understood it is how many respond to your discussion as to how much money you make off it. Yes you are because no one cares on here, if you respond or not, just that they get their opinion across, or at least that is how it seems to me. One woman was ranting about something that I tried to give her help on or ideas, and was told she don't need them, so I guess it better that you just reply and not worry about whether they come back to answer you back. What maks me mad is when someone ask for help and you try to give them the info they would need and they come back with I don't need that I already been told, wouldn't it be easier to make that clear in your original statement than to wait till everyone responds and then tell them you tried that or not interested. But we are all different here so each one uses the site in a different way.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
I see those rants, too, Bdugas. It is frustrating when you sincerely try to help because you see the immediate pain and anguish they express in their starting post. Then you realize they did not want to discuss anything with anyone. Altho they asked for help, all they really wanted was an audience to get it off their chest. I'm sure many of us personally know people like that and we learn that what we have to do is completely ignore them and not get caught up in their day-to-day drama. They are talkers and not listeners. They do not want a give and take conversation, only "Listen to me."
Those of us who want more out of Mylot have to be more discerning in which posts we respond to.
@jpso138 (7851)
• Philippines
22 Nov 09
Well, I think that there are people who just start discussion merely for the sake of starting and trying to get more earnings. In my case, I barely start a discussion. Most often, I reply to discussion rather than start one. I barely have time to follow since I am quite busy with my work. I am afraid that I might not be able to monitor all discussions and won't be able to reply to them. It would be unfair to those who responded.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Thanks, jps0138. All I ask is that people be as considerate as you. Probably the majority of mylotters are working or in school. Mylot is an enjoyable pastime. Bite off what you can chew. To those trying to earn money here on mylot, I understand that, too. However, I would advise them to not give up their day job.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Thanks weasel81. I respond more than I pose questions. Sincere mylotters will do as you do and follow their discussions. It's the give and take that makes mylot what it is.
@hilltrekker (213)
• India
22 Nov 09
situations are different for different people at different times. so can't guess and tell about everyone
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
Hi, Hilltrekker: No matter how you slice it, the rules do not change. It's like traveling in an automobile. Everyone on the highway may be headed to different places at different times and for different reasons. You do not have to know where anyone is going or why, I repeat, the rules do not change. As long as you are driving that automobile, You must stay within the speed limit, stay on your side of the road, avoid hitting the car in front of you, obey the signs, and don't drink and drive.
I'm sure Mylot took into account the fact that there would be different situations, different people and different times. After all we are communicating with people from all over the world. That is one of the things that makes Mylot so special. Ask a question and you get a global perspective rather than just the opinions of your close, personal friends who almost always agree with you.
The best way to let a mylot user know that his or her response was of value, short of giving a Best Response, is to at least acknowledge their post. To do otherwise is like turning your back and walking away without saying a word. That is rude.
@getbrowser (1708)
• China
22 Nov 09
For all friends on myLot, when it comes to posting discussions, different may have different reasons.
At first, I have to say that myLot has provided us a communication platform that helps us to keep in touch touch with others, to seek help, share our experience and make extra money at the same time. But sometimes, we can meet some people who pay much attention to earnings here. So, what they want to do is just to post more and more discussions and get more responses in order to make more money.
To be honest, this action has put undue stress on earnings and pay no attention to the real meaning of myLot.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
You are so right, Getbrowser. It is true here just as it is everywhere. Something is lost when the primary interest is making money. I have always believed that if you do what you love and do it well, then the money will follow. Put the cart before the horse and you will merely stumble over your own feet with little to show for it.
@IceQueenNJ973 (28)
• United States
22 Nov 09
It's obvious that some people start BS discussions that they dont care about to make an extra few cents...it's stupid and pathetic especially since everything I do I like to put a lot of time and thought into. I just hope people are taking this site seriously and putting effort into their discussions and responses.
@StarBright (2798)
• United States
22 Nov 09
IcequeenNJ973, I believe the sincere mylotters like you deserve better. I, too give thought to my responses. When someone puts out a call for help with a problem, I try to give my best. I like to think I am helping someone. Lately, tho, I'm beginning to think there may be some contrived problems just for the sensationalism. If that is true, those people are pathetic (good word).