Who is the "Fearmonger-in-Chief"?

@anniepa (27955)
United States
November 24, 2009 6:03pm CST
According to an Anti-Defamation League report the answer is GLENN BECK, who they say is acting as a sort of intermediary between the mainstream and the fringe! Although much of the recent anti-government anger has been generated by a combination of partisan politics, grass-roots activists, and extreme groups and movements, the mainstream media has also played a role in promoting anti-government anger and pandering to people who believe that the Obama administration is illegitimate or even fascistic. The most important mainstream media figure who has repeatedly helped to stoke the fires of anti-government anger is right-wing media host Glenn Beck, who has a TV show on FOX News and a popular syndicated radio show. While other conservative media hosts, such as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, routinely attack Obama and his administration, typically on partisan grounds, they have usually dismissed or refused to give a platform to the conspiracy theorists and anti-government extremists. This has not been the case with Glenn Beck. Beck and his guests have made a habit of demonizing President Obama and promoting conspiracy theories about his administration.... On a number of his TV and radio programs, Beck has even gone so far as to make comparisons between Hitler and Obama and to promote the idea that the president is dangerous. * On an August 2009 radio program, after claiming that President Obama was lying about his health-care plan, Beck told his audience to read Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Beck said that Hitler told Germans what he was going to do but no one listened. Beck then urged his audience not to make the same mistake with Obama: “Please America…take this man for what he says.” * That same month, David Bellavia, a former army staff sergeant who wrote a book about his experiences as a soldier in Iraq, appeared as a guest on Beck’s TV show. Bellavia discussed the claim that President Obama was trying to create a “civilian national security force” and compared this to the efforts of Hitler and Saddam Hussein to create sinister military forces composed of political loyalists that answered only to them. * On a July 2009 TV show, Beck said that President Obama is a “dangerous” man. * In March 2009, as a guest on another FOX News show, Beck also promoted an anti-government conspiracy theory popular among right-wing extremists—that FEMA is building concentration camps to house “dissidents.” Beck declared that he could not debunk the theory. Before introducing the topic of FEMA camps on that show, Beck claimed that the United States was “headed towards socialism, totalitarianism beyond your wildest imagination.” Later, he also promoted the FEMA camps conspiracy theory on his own show. After much controversy, Beck later backed away from the FEMA camps theory. The FEMA episode, however, is a good example of Beck’s key role as a “fearmonger-in-chief,” using constant laments such as “I fear for my country” to create a sense of anxiety about and hostility towards the government in his audience. These kinds of claims from Beck create an intersection between the mainstream and the extreme. They play an important role in drawing people further out of the mainstream, making them more receptive to the more extreme notions and conspiracy theories. You can read the whole report here: http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/ The segment about Glenn Beck can be found here: http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/mainstream-media.asp Any thoughts? Annie
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
25 Nov 09
By labeling him "Fearmonger-in-Chief" they have admitted the influence and audience that Glenn Beck has. I realize it is frightening to those who would keep certain things from us that someone who will report them actually has an audience. They will only increase his audience - that's what happens every time they try to discredit him. He's not wrong, though. Obama HAS told us what he plans to do. He told everyone in his books and throughout his campaign. He has championed socialist dictators, he has appointed socialists, communists and pseudo-scientific wackos to his administration. He has told us that he wants to change the very fabric of American society. He told us all that he doesn't believe that the Constitution goes far enough or give the government enough power and control. He has told us that he believes in the redistribution of wealth. Guess what? Lots of Americans don't like his goal of restructuring the government, giving it more power, redistributing wealth or re-engineering society by violating the Constitution. Obama lies, he is dangerous. Obama says he barely knows Bill Ayers, yet he figures prominently on the White House visitors list. Glenn Beck tells his viewers that Obama has close ties to George Soros. Et voila! George Soros also shows up on the visitors list. Mr and Mrs Average America do not feel Obama has their best interests at heart. The media wouldn't bother to tell you these things, someone has to. I am sure they will go after Breitbart and others like him because they are not controlling what they publish. Anti-government sentiment is not a crime (not yet, anyway) and there are times when people should oppose the actions of the government. The Vietnam War protestors were displaying anti-government sentiment. Should we have called them fear-mongers? Could the government never be wrong? That's not possible, yet if you listen to the mainstream media you would assume that this administration is never wrong. By this report they are showing their fear... the fear that the American people might wake up and demand that the government stop trying to take ultimate control. This is not the American way, and people don't want to go this way.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
27 Nov 09
So, Glenn Beck told everyone that Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Angela Davis and Michael Moore all have visited the White House, right? The only problem is they weren't THOSE controversial figures but people who happened to have the same names. Did Beck correct himself on this? Read it here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33556933/ Annie
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 Nov 09
It's like a Pavlov trigger - I read that we shouldn't watch Glenn Beck and I feel a need to turn his show on. I had to see what the fearmonger was whipping people into a hysterical frenzy over tonight. Well, he interviewed the author of "The Christmas Jars" and encouraged everyone to start a Christmas jar tradition in their own families. If you've not heard of Christmas jars, they are jars you set aside and throughout the year you put spare change in it and by Christmas it will be full of money. Then on Christmas Eve, you deliver it anonymously to someone in need. It was a nice show, but I did feel cheated out of my daily fearmongering. Maybe I should watch Al Gore's movie... Now there's a Fearmonger!
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
27 Nov 09
I didn't say that Glenn Beck said that. The visitor logs that MSNBC and a watchdog group are suing to get released said that. Of course, in this administration that promised transparency, just the fact that lawsuits have to be filed shows the promises to be lies. Now, it's possible that one or two might not be the controversial figures, but if you truly believe that all of those names are just coincidence, I've got some prime real estate in the everglades for sale. What I said is that Obama is dangerous, Obama does lie. Obama has not kept his promise of transparency. Obama does hang out with socialists, communists and wackos of the type you expect to find living in their mother's basement living out their fantasies on the internet. They are not the sort of people you expect to be put in positions of authority, One day you will see what all of this has wrought in our nation. It isn't about defending the guy from your party, or the liberal ideal of this charming, well-spoken, minority president whom, the left insists, MUST be the answer to their prayers. He's just not any good, he's doing a crap job and he's endangering the country. It isn't because of his race or his party affiliation, it's because he's not a good president, he's not qualified to be president and he doesn't stand for or uphold the principles that most Americans believe their country should stand for. All of the fuss about Glenn Beck and Fox and "angry mobs" - these are all red herrings. They keep everyone busy being shocked by everything except what the government is doing. Everyone should worry about a president who is afraid of a news network.
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@irishidid (8687)
• United States
25 Nov 09
Beck corrects himself when he's wrong. I've seen him do it. I think that's more honorable than the dozens of parties Obama has thrown himself. To err is human and Beck has never claimed to be anything but human. Where exactly is Beck wrong in his analysis of Obama? Obama has proved himself to be an arrogant and spoiled, immature leader. Beck's right about Obama. This crap doesn't change that fact.
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• United States
25 Nov 09
I agree with you completely annie about all of this, Beck is a complete fear mongerer, I will still never forget his stupid conspiricy theory that the cash for clunkers site spied on your computer, it was complete BS, he just did it to stir stuff up and get peoples feathers ruffled. Glenn Beck is a nut in my opinion, as are so many others out there. I have no problem with someone who logically dislikes Obama, there are tons of really intelligent mylotters here that fall into that category, but Glenn Beck just defies logic and reason in my book. As do the conspiricies that are mentioned in that article. I say to those extremists, focus on the real issues at hand and stop getting panicked over theories.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
25 Nov 09
There was nothing stupid about that conspiracy theory. Did you actually read the language in the TOS for that site? "This application provides to the DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a federal computer system and it is property of the United States government. Any and all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DoT and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign." Are you aware that they changed their TOS BECAUSE of what Beck said on his program. Supposedly that agreement only applied to dealers that used the site, but can you read that language and honestly claim that it doesn't sound as though the government is taking ownership of your computer?
@sierras236 (2739)
• United States
25 Nov 09
So you are now admitting that Fox News is mainstream. What happened to MSNBC, CNN, CBS, and CNN news being mainstream? That aside, Glenn Beck is Glenn Beck. He states his opinions. Agree with them disagree with them. A lot of people agree with him, and a lot of people don't. Not everyone agrees with him a 100% of the time. It is an opinion news show. Name one news station or opinion show that has gotten something right 100% of the time. If this is another attempt to devalue Glenn Beck, well he may present some crazy ideas but he is who he is and most people are aware of who he is when they tune in.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
25 Nov 09
Actually, I think it was the ADL that referred to Fox News as part of the mainstream news. Seriously, it's a TV network so of course it's "mainstream news" as are the other channels and networks you mentioned. I know Beck's is an "opinion show" like many others on his and other networks. My point and the point of the ADL is that some of these "crazy ideas" he presents could be very dangerous. Encouraging one's viewers or listeners to speak out about what they believe in and informing them about what's going on is one thing but telling people, some of whom may already to mentally disturbed, that the current Administration is going to come and take them away to an interment camp is something else. Annie
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• United States
25 Nov 09
This atmosphere of fear is more frightening than any terrorist group that admits they are terrorists!
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
25 Nov 09
I agree. I've never seen it the way it is today. We hear lots of talk about patriotism and loving America but I've never known America to be so divided. Annie
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
25 Nov 09
Are you sick? You think some fatmouth who tells conspiracy theories about the president is more frightening than terrorists who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings killing thousands of innocent people? How many people has Glenn Beck killed? How many people have killed others BECAUSE of Glenn Beck? Seriously, that statement is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.
• United States
26 Nov 09
Not since Joe McCarthy has there been such horrors in this country. We all work towards keeping out the terrorists who want to come back and do us more damage, but increasing numbers of Americans are falling prey to the hatred spread by those who wish to tear the country apart from the inside. They actually believe the lies and mirepresentations, and act on them!
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@jerzgirl (9291)
• United States
25 Nov 09
The FEMA-built concentration camps conspiracy theory began under Bush. It's just that the extreme right have decided to own the idea as their own when before they cried about the extremism of the idea when it belonged to the far left. Anyone making wide promotion of an extremist theory is risking pushing the buttons of radical extremists, regardless of left or right. Since no one knows what's on the other end of those buttons, we often don't know until it's too late what will happen. Everyone has a right to their own opinions, but it's not always wise to cry "FIRE" in a crowded room.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
25 Nov 09
Exactly! Too many people seem to think that bit about yelling "FIRE" is meant to be taken only literally and that everything else is acceptable! Annie
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• United States
26 Nov 09
While I don't agree with everything that comes out of his mouth....I do think he is covered under freedom of the press and freedom of speech. There is nothing wrong with screaming fire if there is really is one. He may not be correct on everything he says....just like most news media hosts....but he is right a lot of times. I guess it is about perspective. To left leaning people he is "causing trouble". To right leaning people he is "telling it like it is". Neither is completely true. If you are going to come down on him for his BS than you going to have to come down on Meddows, Copper and the rest of them for theirs. But you can't. Because they are free to tell their opinions.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Nobody is saying he's not "free" to give his opinions. My question is, do the things he says sometimes cross the line? Is it possible that someone who is already unstable could be pushed over the edge by what they consider to be validation from Beck and others like him? I know the right hates Rachel Maddow and all of the other media members who come from the left but I honestly have never heard her say anything that could lead anyone to commit violence against those she speaks out against. Annie
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
26 Nov 09
*FAIL* Annie, he actually debunked the FEMA camp urban legend, you should watch his entire segment on it, he even had a person from popular maechanics on to do it, the same debunker for the 9/11 conspiricy. Incidentaly, I have not seen him be wrong yet where he didn't correct it on a following show. So, do you have a piece to show me where he was wrong or was pushing something that was blatently untrue?
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
25 Nov 09
I think that this show should be listed as a tabloid not a talk show. How can liberals take conservatives seriously when their mouth pieces are always screaming that the sky is falling? Why don't they just use some sane mouth pieces and we might believe them from time to time?
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• United States
25 Nov 09
You make me think back to last week. I was flipping through the news channels as I always do when I caught something on MSN News. They were saying how happy they were that Dobbs was going off the air and how he was a "danger" to our society because of the things he talked about. They also said that Beck, Rush and a few other conservative news shows hosts needed to be next. They said them all by name but I can't remeber them all.I had to laugh. I guess that is one way to make it too the top.....get rid of the competition. Their excuse was that they are causing an "angry" uprising in this country by being critical of Obama and his Admin. That is like saying it is CNN's fault for slamming Bush, or telling conspiracy theories on him which made people angry at him. Is it their fault? No. It was Bush's for being such an useless, under handed jerk. But they want to blame the messanger because it works better for them and their ratings. But seriously, these hosts are not causing the "anger" in this country. Our law makers are. If they don't want talk show hosts on the left or right tearing them apart than they need to try telling the truth and the whole truth. Then Beck and the others would not have anything to talk about. But asking a politican to be honest may be asking too much. As for the FEMA camps...I don't know if they are true. I have not spent a lot of time on it. But if Beck wants to talk about it more power to him. We all have the option of switching the channel if we don't like what he is saying.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
25 Nov 09
I haven't heard the theory of these FEMA camps, but I'm sure if you told people in 1940 that the president would be putting American citizens in concentration camps because they had Japanese or to a lesser degree German heritage, people would have called you a complete nutjob and a conspiracy theorist.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
28 Nov 09
Just a note from my response that wound up burried on the second page of this thread (ack, I hate getting in late to a discusion). Beck actually did a program essentialy debunking the FEMA camp urban legend. He didn't go as deep in to it as I have in the past, but his show on them actually debuked them.
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• United States
26 Nov 09
very true. I am sure they thought their government would never do that to them....but it did and still have apologized for it either.
@wlee9696 (595)
• United States
25 Nov 09
I think Glen Beck makes some interesting points. Government has historically always been filled with conspiracy. How the campaigns are run, how the laws are passed it is all one big cat and mouse game. People keep looking for someone to blame - well the people we all need to blame are the lawmakers. They are all to blame, they have been in congress too long, they serve no interest but their own and this applies to them all - democrats, republicans they all share equally in the destruction of our country. There is conspiracy afoot - there are too many hidden agendas in Washington - without people like Glen Beck exposing those theories we couldn't evaluate what is happening and then make up our own minds as to what to believe or not believe. Don't shoot the messenger - listen to the message then make you decision to support or oppose.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
27 Nov 09
I'm pretty sure neither one of you get my point, especially Rose. It's really not a matter of "shooting the messenger" but a matter of the messenger inciting his followers that may already be near the edge to commit violent acts against others out of fear. Annie
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
28 Nov 09
annie, I'm sorry, but that is a pretty weak argument, you could say the same about anyone on tv on any show, on any type of programming.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
28 Nov 09
oh, annie. my response got burried on the second page by the way, so if ya wanna and aren't too pyssed at me for calling your argument weak....
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