Do you think Pres. Arroyo will go after the Ampatuans of Maguindanao?
By moonchild117
@moonchild117 (1987)
Philippines
November 24, 2009 10:00pm CST
The Ampatuans are allies of Pres. Gloria Macapagal Arroyo and is believed to be responsible for her victory in Maguindanao during the 2004 and 2007 elections. In the light of the recent Maguindanao massacre where members of the Mangudadatu clan, some lawyers, and over a dozen journalists were killed, do you think PGMA will let the PNP arrest of Andal Ampatuan, Jr. who is the alleged mastermind of the killings?
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@edujccz (929)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
Maybe she will just say " let justice prevail " and wait for the uproar to die down. we all knew they were friends and other people are saying that the ampatuans are related to the Hello Garci case, if she will do that , then the ampatuans can spill the beans.
Well, thats the kind of politics we have here, they will massacre anyone who is against their position. the clout of the government.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
7 Dec 09
It's actually difficult for the government to do that anymore (delaying tactics) because the case has international attention.
I think it's more of the delaying tactics of the Ampatuans and other sector of government and non-government organizations that is delaying things by questioning every action of the government.
@athomice (396)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
When I heard the news about this massacre...one thing slips my mind! This case will never be solved. Our government will sit on this issue. Normal suspect will be invited in the precint when someone point a finger on them but in this incident one of the victim called his/her relative and said a specific person invovled before he/she was killed. The police did nothing to arrest the suspects and our government keep misleading the public about this case.
The goverment is so corrupt and will let this incident be forgotten forever! Lets just pray for the soul of all the victim!
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@moonchild117 (1987)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
I think that's what most Filipinos are thinking, that this won't see closure anytime soon. It's a trend here, controversies being covered up by another controversy. Though this would be hard to ignore because many organizations, even international bodies, have expressed disgust over the massacre. If PGMA wants to save face, then she should allow justice to reign, even if it would have dire consequences on her political endeavors.
And yes, let's pray for all those who lost their lives there.
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@tholitz (1127)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
Hi moonchild117!
The slow action of Arroyo government in investigating the case and at the same time holding those responsible in these grueling massacre have raised my doubt about this case. As we all know, the Ampatuans are very powerful clan in Maguindanao and said to be close allies of the Arroyo government, who as you have said brought 200,000 votes for her in the last presidential election.
I'm just praying that PGMA will set aside whatever favor she gets from the Ampatuans and bring justice to all the victims of these massacre killing (although the presidential election is very near).
Have a nice day!
@moonchild117 (1987)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
Yeah, it's been how many days and still no solid action from the government about this. Tsk. But I do hope she heeds the people. Even her political party is for the swift action against Ampatuan Jr.
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@fatherblogger (673)
• Philippines
26 Nov 09
Actually, Andal Ampatuan, Jr has been turned over to DOJ a few hours ago. But then, I am surprised that he still cannot be called a suspect.
I am just thinking if they will do the same treatment if he is an ordinary citizen.
@stephon8 (300)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
Yes! i think the President will go after the Ampatuans (well not really the Ampatuans), only the suspect. She cannot go after the whole Ampatuan clan, if only one of them is the suspect. Im sure we will gonna see some justice here, she wont gonna declare state of emergency for nothing. What will she gonna get if she cover up the Ampatuans. Even if the Ampatuans spoil the beans in of what really happen in the 2004 election, nobody will gonna beleive them and its Arroyos last few months anyways. We should all hope for some kind of justice here, the whole world is watching us.
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@moonchild117 (1987)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
I know, and it would be an embarrassment to the country if what happened in Maguindanao would not be given swift action. Many international bodies have already expressed their disgust over this. PGMA should do what is right.
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@soledadclickz (1106)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
Hi moonchild117. I am really hoping that President Arroyo will go after whoever is responsible for the Maguindanao massacre. But I would also like to note that I wasn't really expecting she would do that to the Ampatuans.
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@moonchild117 (1987)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
Other allies in the Lakas-Kampi-CMD party, especially Gilbert Teodoro, wants to arrest the perpetrators. Let's see if PGMA will really go for that.
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@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
I don't think so. Because until now, the government of Pres. Arroyo, did not reponse on the grievance of victims of Massacre in Maguindanao. It should under custody now, the suspect Ampatuan but the government said there is no sufficient evidence and not include them as a suspect right now?
A terrible words or justice secretary. She seems not a lawyer talking like that. She don't know that once a crimes being consummated and there are rumors of responsible criminals they include as suspect and they are under the custody of the police until the case is pursuit before the court.
They declare state of emergency in that area but until now there is no clear whether the military or police arrest those perpetrators. The deployment of the Military is not clear whether they pursuit those criminals or not? Because there is no order from the higher command to conduct operation in that area to show that the government is interested enough to arrest those involved person of the mass killing of innocent people
@neelianoscet (9615)
• Philippines
25 Nov 09
I have doubts because here in my place it is known that pres. Gloria Arroyo have deeply with a lot of gratitude owe to the Ampatuan family as they are both political allies. I highly condemn this new gruesome killing it makes me sad with the latest evens. It makes all the residents here in terrible shock with a mix of anger. Government should not tolerate this latest events or else they would likely lost their puppet in the coming election. I am deeply in sorrow and sad as one of my neighbor were among the innocent victims being killed by this senseless political dynasty of evil minded clan and I do hope fair justice would be serve to those victims as of the current news the fatalities are still counting to 57 victims. Those 100 miliatiamen who commit these massacre are evil men and I doubt to that justice would be serve as the question is how could the government in the local areas protect the civilian were themselves are the mastermind?? Those who are seen among the massacre were a highest official of the police. They are being hired and paid for killing those innocent civilians. I do hope government should pursue those perpetrators as I highly condemn this evil deed may their souls of the mastermind go to hell and they should be return with karma!!
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@glazedonuts (52)
• Philippines
30 Nov 09
I sure hope our Madam President would eventually become a road for the law to be exercised in its full extent and serve justice for the victims. As obvious as it may seem to the lot of us, including me, impartiality should still be observed for both parties. We should give chance to the ampatuans to have their say so as not to give them any excuse that they haven't been given time to explain their side. Nor should we not let our guard down for a white-wash to occur and may lead to ampatuans getting away with their "obvious as the suns rays" so evil deed. Our president should set aside her political connections with the ampatuans and not let that connection get in the way with the investigations,which we are already seeing since day one, what with the slow government response to the brutal killings. Even the United Nations already have a footing early on, and have a clear idea as to who is responsible. Our government must show to the world that it can clean up serious happenings such as this without foreign interventions compelled to do independent investigations. Government investigations must be impartial to its fullest and observe strict procedures to procure and secure forensic evidences, otherwise foriegn bodies might be compelled to intervene in the name of equality and truth.
@Andrea143 (91)
• Philippines
29 Nov 09
Hi! Moonchild... I hope and wish that the government of President Arroyo will give justice to the victims of the " MAGUINDANAO MASSACRE." As a mother, with children , very very sad for our country. I hope that the Filipino people will pray more for our country. All the things that is happening to our country this 2009, is all a WAKE-UP CALL from BRO. up there. We are being tested by God, our FAITH in Him. Look at the Filipinos, talaga we have short memories,"madaling makalimot." After Ondoy last month, look at SM MALL again, full of people again. We don't learn from our lessons , Back to reality again. Unless we are not willing to sacrifice for our country, this country will not move forward. Very Very sad talaga.
@Andrea143 (91)
• Philippines
29 Nov 09
Hi! Moonchild , I wish that the government of President Arroyo would give justice for the victims of the "MAGUINDNAO MASSACRE". Not only wishing but hoping. You know it's very very sad that this things is happening in our country. So the more we must pray hard that this is a wake-up call again for all of us. God bless our country.....
@markjop (7)
• Philippines
29 Nov 09
i don't believe that it would be the fault of just one Ampatuan... i don't understand, why did they arrest only one Ampatuan... My guess is that, if they got hold of one Ampatuan who is innocent to the incident, the whole Ampatuan clan would be vindicated... Why didn't they go and question all the high-ranking Ampatuan in Maguindanao instead of just one? The investigation is just so lame and dumb...
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
26 Nov 09
I think Arroyo's will have to force it or it will again pull her down the drain if she does not do it. I am thinking that the surrender of one Ampatuans that they have to do this or else she will face a very bad reputation with everybody. Even Gilbert Teodoro has made a bold move by distancing the party with the family to save his draining popularity in surveys. They have no choice because there is an overwhelming evidence that puts the Ampatuans to the crime. They have failed to keep this massacre hidden because of the enormity of the casualty they created.
@ethanonthemoon (1494)
• Quezon, Philippines
26 Nov 09
Yes, she would definitely will, but for show only. She's in the hot seat right now.
@strawberry1012 (142)
• Philippines
27 Nov 09
It seems the Ampatuans are already guilty of the crime without the so called "due process". Well anyway that is the way most filipinos will react to such heinous crimes.
The police should be independent on their investigation , if it is still needed because Ampatuans are alrady guilty according to most, and not to rely on the instruction of malacanang.
However, the president should take extra effort to capture the perpetrators, because this crime reflects what country we have. And in doing this it would might somehow alleviate her poor performance rating.
@alexysabelle (905)
• Philippines
26 Nov 09
on the contrary, she might use it to declare martial law for self interest. arroyo is an expert in creating issues and big events to cover some malpractices in her governance.
for the mean time, we ordinary mortals will just do our respective responsibility while at the same time keep close watch to the movements of the events.
May God cloth us with His protection and may His true justice prevail.