Homosexuality: Choice or genetics?
By shoreboy31
@shoreboy31 (1433)
United States
November 14, 2006 7:37pm CST
I know this is sure to stir a bit of controversy here, but I want opinions. I'm not asking if it's right or wrong, because my personal beliefs in Christianity tell me that it's a sin. But I've heard it argued that people who are homosexual are born that way. I feel that it's just a choice. What is your opinion on this one?
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28 responses
@nichjake (523)
• United States
15 Nov 06
I think they're born that way. My best friend is gay and he tried to suppress it for years. He was born and raised Catholic so naturally he tried to fight it. He finally confessed to me this spring that he was gay, it was one of the hardest things he ever did, he was actually crying. I was the first person he told and since then he's told his parents and most of his other good friends. This poor boy has been through hell trying to not be gay but in the end he was still gay, he definatly wouldn't have chosen to be gay.
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@shoreboy31 (1433)
• United States
15 Nov 06
hmm interesting example...I find it hard to argue that one, except for one thing...at what age did he realize this? because most people don't start thinking sexually until about the age of 12-14. At this point they start becoming attracted to people...
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
29 Nov 06
Okay, first off, no one really knows, but if you have to ask....
There is an all encompassing theory at the moment which seems pretty good, but I do not think anyone is willing to bet their reputation as a scientist that what I'm about to write is true.
The question should not be is homosexuality a choice or genetics, but what percentage of homosexuals are by choice and what percentage are genetic. Some thoughtful, introspective intelligent homosexuals exist who claim choice while others claim genetics. A reasonable person can easily assume both camps are telling the truth.
Consider that even if genetics can be a cause, what is to stop anyone else from making the choice? Stupid as it would seem to make that choice, we all know there are stupid people. Really stupid people! So, this hypothesis is possible.
Now, the really interesting point is the genetics of this situation. Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest does not allow for a gene surviving in the gene pool that hinders an individual from passing on their genes. There could not possibly be a homosexuality gene if this is true. Well, guess, what? The theory I'm explaining says that there is no homosexual gene. Some scientists now believe instead of a gene, homosexuality can occur when an error happens in the reproduction of a specific gene. That is, it is not that there is a gene for homosexuality but that when a certain other gene does not split and recombine correctly during reproduction homosexuality happens as a result. Under this hypothesis, homosexuality is a sort of genetic defect. This is not going to make some people happy, but there does not seem to be a good explanation for how a homosexuality gene could survive in the gene pool due to survival of the fittest.
You can search the scientific writings for the exact gene this is hypothesized about, I really can not tell you. I just remember the gist of it.
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@shoreboy31 (1433)
• United States
7 Dec 06
Wow, I never heard that idea before...not a gene, but genetic defect...that makes sense...I have often thought of the survival of the fittest theory and wondered how if that was true that there could still be homosexuality...
@sirensanssmile (3764)
• Netherlands
29 Nov 06
Think about how hard it is for homosexuals in the world. Not that I ask you to go out of your belief, just think about what you see happen to them all over the world and through out history in America itself. You can see from fact that it is an uncomfortable thing to be gay. It can't be fun to break the news to your parents or to try to gain acceptance for this in society. Even as far as America may have come it still generally doesn't accept it. If this were an wasy thing then why do we see so many sad stories about "coming outs" gone wrong?
Why would this be a choice? How could this be a choice? You think that people actually just arbitrarily decide to be a homosexual? I completely doubt it as I can name several examples of gay men I know that are very conflicted about it. Some of them don't want to be homosexuals but they are and there is no changing it.
I gave an example of my neighbour in a previous topic. He is the perfect example. He was born in Yemen as a muslim. He came to NL for asylum and dropped the faith. Can you tell me that this man born where he is in the society it is would actually CHOOSE to be gay? No and he has had to live with the consequences of being gay all his life and was nearly killed over it by his OWN family.... You think he chose this?
It isn't as simple as just deciding to go straight. If this were possible I am quite sure that my neighbor would have done this. Setting aside religeon for a moment.... Consider this.
How you feel about the very idea of being with another man is pretty much how they feel about being with a woman. Can you imagine if you were to try to CHOOSE to be gay? It wouldn't work for you would it? You can't make yourself attracted to men can you?
Just something to think about. :)
@freebooter (4)
• India
29 Nov 06
hats off to u,i completely agree with u,that was awesome....cheers!!
@pikunpol (497)
• Indonesia
16 Nov 06
well i have friend that gay,and he also feeling guilty belive me its more hard to people who already know about its sin but still doing in. they just can stop it (they said ) but i think its better we not judge them for what they already do:)
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@shoreboy31 (1433)
• United States
16 Nov 06
Oh, I'm not judging...I have my own personal beliefs on the matter which only allow me to judge my own actions right or wrong...I will not judge another on his. I've just heard this argued before and was just wondering what ohters thought on the matter..so far some good responses both ways...
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@krisantapapa (820)
• Philippines
16 Nov 06
It's genetic but in the end as they grow up, it becomes their choice to be on that situation. For us humans, the lust is too hard to fight, we sometimes let things happen.....Other says, " LET it FLOW".
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@2timothy (794)
• Philippines
27 Jan 07
We are all born sinners and cannot help ourselves from sinning. Lust is a sin whether it is toward the opposite or same gender. It is inexcusable to say that since we are born with the sinful nature, it is but natural for us to sin and thus take away all restrictions and reason that there is nothing wrong as long as one feels good about it.
All of us have cancerous radical cells which becomes full blown when unrestrained. This is also true with sin. The lust of homosexuality breaks out when one denies God (Rom. 1) and is dealt with when one turns to God (Gal. 5:24).
@Eboue54 (58)
• United States
24 Jan 07
This sure is a popular topic/question. In my opinion, it is a result of genetics. I do wonder, what difference does it make. I guess I'll start my own discussion on that question.
If being gay is a choice, that would also mean that being straight is a choice. So everyone who is not gay should be able to tell the story about how and when they made the choice to not be gay.
@dire_angel (207)
• Philippines
24 Jan 07
I think homosexuality is a result of both the environment and the genes passed on to you by your parents. It can either be enhanced or repressed depending on culture, acceptance in society, and family. Research says it can also be due to hormones that are present in our drinking water. These hormones, studies indicate, come from birth control pills flushed out. Unfortunately, treating water does not eliminate these substances so when a male drinks the water he also induces the the hormones present.
@mikee_meeh (168)
• Philippines
25 Feb 07
It is possible that it can be genetic. But as for me it is more like of an influence, the environment he is in and how or who brought him up. Because how can a child grow like that if he is not taught to act like one.
@justalone (93)
• Philippines
24 Jan 07
Homesexuality: Its from the society that surrounds you, the type of place you lived in, neglection and cruelty.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
7 Dec 06
My guess is it's a bit of both. I'm sure there's some genetics involved making people predisposed to it, but also I think there are some that do it just out of choice. I don't hold it against them, everyone has to live their own lives and shouldn't worry about other's choices unless it harms you, that's my feelings on life lol
@kaspyv (1011)
• United States
29 Nov 06
Genetics has everything to do with it! You were born straight, because of genetics...you had no choice in the matter. So it is with gays, they have no choice as to their sexuality. The only choices they have is whether they want to live their life as a lie and suppress their natural instincts so they can fit in the straight world or to be true to themselves and what they know they were born as. You have no clue as to how much pain and suffering homosexuals go through just to make that choice that society has forced upon them, and unless you become better informed you will never know. To a straight person, being gay is not normal....as it is to a gay person, being straight is not normal. It's kind of like being born a girl or a boy, brown eyes or green, its all in the genes. Gays have suffered enough at the hands of uninformed straight people...its time to let them live in peace. Why can't we all just get along..they don't try to force being gay on you so stop trying to force being straight on them!
@amikathleen (575)
• United States
29 Nov 06
Niether. I believe that is has to do with attraction. You cannot choose who you are attracted to, right? I do not think it is genetic, because attraction is a feeling/connection. I condemn no one for their attraction. It is mean.
@amikathleen (575)
• United States
29 Nov 06
Niether. I believe that is has to do with attraction. You cannot choose who you are attracted to, right? I do not think it is genetic, because attraction is a feeling/connection. I condemn no one for their attraction. It is mean.