Is a hitch - hiker a potential danger to you?
By katerina
@thea09 (18305)
Greece
November 29, 2009 1:44pm CST
Here in Greece we have a certain type of hitch-hiker which I always stop for. I never for a moment presume they are axe wielding fiends or car jackers. In fact they are more likely to be afraid of getting in the car with me than I am of letting them in.
The mountain road which needs to be covered between here and town has off roads leading up to higher mountain villages. People come down from these and stand on the mountain road looking to get to another village on the actual mountain road. They need to hitch as there are only two buses a day. But they never hitch by holding out a thumb or such methods, instead they stand partly in the road and wave their walking sticks. Indeed, we have elderly mountain hitchhikers here, and I always stop for them.
I stopped today on my way home and for the first time picked up the same elderly gentleman whom I had once stopped for before. He recognised the fact too and did try and persuade me to have coffee with him when I reached his village destination (in the cafenion I hasten to add).
Is this familiar to you too, or is the hitch-hiker always a potential danger?
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23 responses
@GardenGerty (160491)
• United States
29 Nov 09
We do not have a culturally acceptable hitch hiker. People are afraid of hitchhikers, and likewise, hitchhikers are wary of the type of ride they take. What you describe is more like neighborliness, and I hope your part of the world continues that way a long long time.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Nov 09
Hi Gerty, what a shame that must be for no one to be acceptable as a hitch-hiker. I don't stop for other groups really except the walking stick brigade as these are really the only type we have, but they aren't neighbours as too far away to be. They are always certain though of getting to where they intend to go. I did have one elderly gent whom I really regretted picking up as he was very large and his weight sagged over my gear stick (small car) and he refused to engage in any communication at all as obviously unnerved by the fact that he seemed to be rather horrified at the thought of a woman (possibly predator)driver. I was very glad to let him out.
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@moonchild1au (6237)
• Australia
29 Nov 09
Here in Australia, we are always careful of hitch hikers & those hitch hiking (the harmless ones) are careful of those picking them up...there are so many sick people out there that you just don't pick up hitch hikers - well I don't anyway as the bad ones seem to prey on females.
@moonchild1au (6237)
• Australia
29 Nov 09
Don't get me wrong, not all of our hitchers are bad but I just don't want to take the risk...if I had a stick brigade like you do, I would have no qualms in picking them up :)
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Nov 09
Hi moonchild, if it's not as safe in your part of the world to do so then its best not to, I agree. There's ones I wouldn't stop for too but my walking stick brigade I always stop for. Young tourist ones I don't stop for as think they can take the bus or walk as have no idea what they could be like.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
30 Nov 09
30 odd years ago I used to give everyone a ride as here was a lack of transportation. In those days I also used to give tourists a ride but I stopped that as we went through a period of car searches and if anyone had an illegal substance on them, then I too would be languishing in a jail. so I said to myself. I said: You can sod that for a lark - and so I stopped as they invariably had wacky baccy on them.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
1 Dec 09
It is a different era. Now they are packed into tour bus' or stay in all inclusive hotels where they re transported to outside tourist locations. Rarely see a tourist hitch hiking - in fact I haven't seen one for many years. back to work . I will here here until 7 pm tonight with the amount of work given to me. So many totaly unnecessary reports etc.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Dec 09
Hi Cynthiann, do you mean it was safe enough then and yet now its so dangerous? I don't stop for tourists as they'd probably be looking at all in mud everywhere in the car and thinking that the pervasive smell of goat, from the ancient Greek who just had his lift, came from me.
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
29 Nov 09
Unfortunately, Thea, here in the US, we dare not trust hitch-hikers, unless it is someone we know. People have been robbed, raped, or killed for such kindnesses. It wasn't always that way, but it sure is now. Sad, really.
Karen
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
30 Nov 09
My neice is a hard head, Karen. . walton mountain was on tv, thea. Better be safe than sorry i always say.U both have a good mon.
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Happy Monday, Thea and Jo.
Oh yes, I only wish there were still some Walton's Mountain areas, but alas, even in my small town and the surrounding countryside, picking up hitch-hikers is a no.
Karen
@sunny68 (1327)
• India
1 Dec 09
i guess it is mostly a safe thing to do. this is a more common practice in small cities where people are more friendly and of helping nature. but in big cities i don't think this is a common practice. people just seem to busy and in a rush to care for others. i have done that several times and didn't have a problem with that. even though i have not been able to make friends with anyone of them...
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Dec 09
Sunny at last, someone who also doesn't think its complete madness and folly and we'll most likely murdered behind the wheel and chopped up in pieces. It would be no use my lot doing that as I don't think they know how to drive to get away afterwards, I'm speaking of the generation here who were more used to having donkeys as transport than cars.
@sunny68 (1327)
• India
3 Dec 09
well....there are still people who are not corrupted by 'modern life'. and such people are more kind and helping in nature. today most people consider helping others as a waste of time as they always seem to be in a rush. times are changing and its changing fast..
@Boyetski (986)
• Philippines
30 Nov 09
I have not tried picking up some random hich hikers my self. But i once picked some hitch hiker that I really can say that they are in distress..
They asked for a ride. a 2 km ride and thats it.. That was my first time though. It was nice helping people but it's not really good to actually trust them in an instant...
Thas my opinion
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Dec 09
Hi Boyetski, it's probably not the best idea in the world to stop for people unless its in an area like the one I live in where I just stop for the old people who use that method of getting around quite a lot. It's sort of the done thing to do here but I wouldn't stop for just anyone and I do check them out first before letting them in. One old lady did invite me to stop and pick some fruit from her garden but when its the Greek old ladies, less frequent than the men, they are much better company as more chatty and goodness do they have a sense of humour.
@Boyetski (986)
• Philippines
2 Dec 09
In my country. Seldom people really picks up some random hitch hikers. Specially in manila area. But In our province where people there usually are not opportunist. I can say that it maybe safer. But what the heck, most of the time those good doer's usually become victims of hi jacked car's hehehe. . .
But I would love to try to hitch hike for my self. I wonder if I can get a ride here? HEHEHE. It should be fun since it's going to be free right?
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
30 Nov 09
too dangerous here.
i hate to broad analyse like that,but i knew someone who was almost strangled by someone she gave a ride to.
i'd have to know the person before i'd give them a ride.
@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
2 Dec 09
No doubt some hitchhikers can be dangerous, but every report I've ever seen on the subject, including studies done in the USA, show that the risk is far far smaller than most people seem to think. The hitchhiker tends to be far more vulnerable than those who pick them up.
Lash
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Dec 09
Hi Scarlet, I know there's all kinds of weirdos out there and I'd be like you and not stop at all for strangers in a big place. The only ones I ever stop for are the walking stick brigade and it is quite expected, I wouldn't want to be labelled as one of those foreigners who just left them stranded there.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
2 Dec 09
Here in Sg, hitch-hiking is not a common thing at all, Thea. As for your story there, you were so kind, Thea to give the elderly gentleman a lift. That's something that I rarely see here, perhaps because of the busy city life and it's not really something like a common sight here.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
Hi Zed, I wouldn't expect much of it to go on in a busy city like yours, but that reminds me are you still a crime free zone over there? There used to be the reputation of complete cleanliness too.
I always stop for the older ones with walking sticks waving round in the air, I started it years ago to practice my Greek on them but couldn't understand much of what they said at all, then found out that of course it's some mountain dialogue they use. I'm quite used to it now though.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Nov 09
hi thea well back in the state in which I was born and grew up yes we picked up hitch-hikers as we all knew just about everyone and because if theywere hiking their vehicle was probably not working as it was mostly farm country and everyone had at least on pickup or truck plus the family car. Nobody ever turned anyone down but those were much simpler times. Now probably they are more careful whom they pickup. but here in Southern California its not too smart to pick up a hitch-hiker unless you can tell they are innocent of any wrongdoing. but in tustin where I used to live I was waiting and waiting for a cab to take me home and this young man asked me where I lived which was just up Newport ave about 12 blocks but I no longer could walk that far. so he said get in, I used to know some people who lived in your apartment complex. so I accepted his ride and got home without any problems at all. another time I was waiting for a bus and it started to rain. a nice young man in one of those huge SUV's came along and insisted on giving me a ride to Larwin Square, he told me he was married to rather famous pastor's daughter. I accepted with much gratitude as it started to pour. so some rides are okay as I am a white haired elderly woman who would not harm a flea ,oh no I might squash the flea but not hurt anyone else. he he.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Nov 09
Hi Hatley, indeed times are not as they once were in these things but it's good to hear that you feel safe enough to accept rides too. Our elderly ones (if you don't mind the term) are much bolder than you and do make their presence known. The men outnumber the women in this respect and are often a bit worried about stepping into my car unchaperoned, so the ladies are my first choice, as they also tend to be more chatty too.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Nov 09
hi thea oh yes specially the s econd ride as the guy told me he was married to Reverend Schuller's daughter. I had admired the rev. for years although I was a little nonplussed at the vast amount of money was spent on the Crystal Cathedral.oh it is one gorgeous building and they do have a large ministry with a lot of things like helping people to find jobs and such that are doing good for people. but it sort of irked me that the ministers had to have such a grand edifice when that humongous amount of money could better have been spent on helping the homeless into jobs and apartments. but of course nobody else thought like me. The building is one of a kind, and I doubt there is another one likeit in all of the US. but it cost millions and millions, and could that have helped the jobless? I think it could have.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
29 Nov 09
Yaddou niece, i wish u would be more careful about picking up fpls. I know there must be bad people in greece to. Hitchiking use to be something u saw alot of here but not anymore. I believe it's againist the law now. there's no way i would pick up anybody unless i knew them then i might think twice about that. we do have bad people here.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
29 Nov 09
I just want u to be careful. I know there has to be bad people there to altho u wouldn't admit it.lol. Someone could dress up like an elderly person, u know. please just be careful.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Nov 09
Aunty you needn't worry, I drive past without stopping except for the elderly mountain ones. They are usually around about 80 years old and perfectly safe and I think they've found a great way of getting around as they tend not to drive around here as they get older. I don't stop for people who don't fit that category or look like they aren't Greek.
I'm glad to hear you don't stop for hitch hikers as its definitely more dangerous where you are as you've shown plenty with your postings here.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Nov 09
Aunty I'm not naive and the baddies are indeed around but wouldn't have enough imagination to pose as elderly Greeks at the top of a mountain. There is a group I would never stop for ever and they could never pass as Greeks as their voices alone are a huge giveaway. There's even the odd Greek I would drive past in the pouring rain.
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@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
29 Nov 09
Oh, here one couldn't pick up a hitch-hiker as they are more than likely not safe. Probably not the ax murderer but, possibly a car jacker or some other type of problem person.
@happy6162 (3001)
• United States
29 Nov 09
It is against the law here to hitch hike so we do not see to many anymore. If I see someone I know then I will pick them up but if I do not know them then I will not anymore it can be dangerous to pickup people you do not know. It is a shame that it has come to this and people are afraid to help out others because some people are dangerous.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Nov 09
Hi happy, understandable in a way in the US where so many have either been murderous or nasty, or at least those are the ones we get to hear about. Is that a national ban now or just certain states? Surely there must be areas which have their own walking stick hitch hikers in such a vast place.
@happy6162 (3001)
• United States
30 Nov 09
I am not sure if it is a national law but I do know in the state I live in you are not suppose to hitchhike but there are still people that do.
@Louc74 (620)
•
29 Nov 09
I've always been too scared to stop for hitch hikers, then I worry for ages afterwards that they were probably perfectly nice, and now some mad, psychotic murdering truck driver has picked the poor soul up to carry them away to an untimely and horrific end!
I'd consider stopping for another female, but with guys I'd always think twice.
I've just remembered - my Dad picked up an Irish hitch hiker in his work van, the guy wanted to get to the train station in our town, but hadn't eaten in over a day, so my dad said to come to his work to get some breakfast. Then he and his workmates decided to chip in and pay his trainfare.
So he sat in the work, and had toast, and tea, several helpings, then my dad nipped to the loo before dropping him at the train station.
He came back, and the guy wasn't there - but his car keys were gone. He looked out the window, and the guy was making off in his car! Lol!
The police got him before he left the town, but talk about biting the hand that feeds you!
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
29 Nov 09
Hi Lou, welcome to Greek lifesytle, that's the avatar we were just discussing in the other discussion up at the top. If you go round thinking about murdering psychotic truck drivers you'd have enjoyed the body discussions.
Your poor Dad, now that's the type one would really expect from reading about them in the news or things. So breakfast, train fare and a handy car as well. Nasty thief. Over here I've had men see me struggle if wedged into a tight parking space and I've thought nothing of letting them move it out for me knowing full well at the time that if I'd been in the UK I wouldn't have done it in case they drove off with the thing.
@artistry (4151)
• United States
3 Dec 09
...Hi thea, First of all you are very nice to offer a ride to the man, next of all you are courageous to have offered him a ride the first time. I guess if the crime rate is low and most of the people in the neighborhood are friendly, picking up a hitchhiker may not be so scary. I once reversed it, I was waiting for a bus and a guy stopped and offered me a ride, he wanted to take me out for a drink which I refused, and he let me get out of the car without a problem. I thought afterward it wasn't a smart thing to do as a woman. Go over, if you would to www.authspot.com/writers/quiet+voice.8137 and read "Red Rodeo in Texas", it's a short story I wrote about a hitchhiker with an interesting ending. Thanks, take care.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
3 Dec 09
Hi artistry, I always stop for them as it is there way of getting around a lot of the times. Some of those villages they come down from are quite isolated. I've never once been scared of stopping for them but they really are the only type we encounter unless its tourists and I don't stop for those. If I did need a ride somewhere then standing at the bus stop would be the best place to get one as someone I know would stop.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Nov 09
Hi jillhill, I think I should have come up with another name for my brand of hitchhikers. The first time someone mentioned it being illegal in the US I thought it must be just in the odd state but I'm beginning to get the idea its nationwide. Best indeed never to stop for anyone.
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Hi, the09. It is a very generous offer, but this can be extremely dangerous. In my town, I don't offer rides to hitchhikers. I don't take any chances when it comes to that. If I know you well, like say you are a friend or a trusted family member, I may offer you a ride. Other than that, I am weigh too cautious when it comes to something like this. I know someone told me a story some years back about a man offering someone a ride. They said that he was being generous and that the person robbed him and killed him. It happened in this state, but just in another county. I thought that this was scary.. When I heard this, I was very skeptical about getting in someones ride or letting others take me places by offering me a ride instead. Yesterday, I met this 19 year old girl at The Health Department. She offered to take me home because she knew that I had been waiting a while for my ride. Her mom offered to drive me home because she saw me and my kids sitting outside, and it was cold. I declined the ride, because I had a couple of places that I needed to go. So, I told her no thank you.. Some people are very friendly when it comes to offering rides to strangers. There have been a few times where I was stuck and I did not have a way home. And I needed a ride and I asked this couple to take me to a destination. They could not do it because they had a car full of their own kids. So, to be honest with you, I can't see how someone would be willing to pick up a stranger. These days you just never know.. Someone can be normal at first and then they can turn around and be a killer behind the mask. Hitchhiking can be dangerous for the person needing the ride or the person giving the ride. I just hope that I am not placed in either or of these two situations. It can be safe and then again it could cost someone their life.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
2 Dec 09
Hi Cream, you're in a more dangerous country with more strangers around, I live in a time warp in a small rural place where people help out strangers or people they know by sight, and the old people from the mountains get round that by way and are perfectly harmless. I wouldn't stop for young people or people who weren't obviously Greek elders, and I can check them out at the window before I open the door. There is no crime in this area at all between Greeks and if I pick up an old person going onto a village no doubt he will be related to someone there who will in turn be related to someone in my village. So it really is a different world here and long may it so remain. When I have been hesitant to stop which is usually when I'm in a hurry my son tells me off as he's learnt that it is the expected thing to do here. One does get an instinct though when things are fine to go ahead with.
@samigirl_69 (27)
• United States
30 Nov 09
I am a little leery of total strangers but I live in a small town in the middle of farm country and it's nothing to see a farmer walking down the side of the highway because his tractor quit working or got stuck. Depending on the person sometimes I'll stop and offer a ride into town or to the nearest farm. We have a cheese plant in the closest town and it's nothing for me to stop and visit my husband at work and give one of the driver's a ride to the local cafe or convenience store instead of making them walk all the way across town.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
1 Dec 09
Hi samigirl, that sounds a nice kind of place, farm country with a cheese plant. It sounds like here that its safe enough to stop for someone who is obviously of the local variety. I should have renamed the elderly brigade on our mountain as somthing other than hitchhikers, they are more like you broken down farmers.
@vandana7 (100127)
• India
30 Nov 09
Hi thea, though the fear lurks, but we too behave like good samaritans many times. :) I remember there was a muslim lady and her daughter. They'd arrived from another city. She was dropped some place. She was keen to extend the friendship, but it felt kind of odd to do so. Not because of the religion, I dont believe in differentiating based on religion at all. It was because it seemed odd to start a friendship that way. :) That too because we'd enjoyed the ride as much. :) Another student we gave lift to a couple of months ago, he felt so touched and was so keen to get off the car - you can drop me here - kind of thing. Well, we dropped him somewhere where he could get other transport. We were returning from some place out of the city. :) So we do pick people on our way if we can. :) But as I said before, it is a dangerous thing to do.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Nov 09
Hi vandana, I cannot do anything but agree this is a dangerous practice or Aunty will be round to smack more sense into me. I wouldn't do it apart from on the mountain and with the elderly but apart from tourists in the summer those are really the only types we get. I don't stop for tourists as if they can afford to holiday here then they should be able to afford a taxi or plan their day out better.
So you be careful to about who you're stopping for or Aunty will be in here too telling the both of us off.
@linamachina (521)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Hi Thea, as most of your US responders replied, hitch hiking is not the legal and picking one up usually is something akin to putting a sign on your forehead - rob me or worst. Although I am sure there are parts in the States that are still friendly enough to pick up hitch hikers without too much worry as long as one felt safe but where I am, I would be most hesitant to do so. I do recall one time when I was in Baltimore, Maryland and we left a huge event, the traffic was horrible and the cabs were crazy full and we couldn't get anywhere and we started walking back to the hotel, it was like many miles away, but we were hoping we would find a cab further away from the hoopla when a woman pulled up along side of us and asked where we were going. We were not "thumbing it" but must have looked like we were looking for a cab. My guy offered her money to take us to the hotel (about the same as a cab ride) and she agreed. I was horrified! I did get in the car but reluctantly, I wanted to wait for a "real" cab. And I thought she was crazy to just stop for anyone (I mean I do look pretty harmless and my guy looks clean cut and not strung out but still...)the entire time I berated (that's strong, I "counselled") her for being so reckless, and said things like what if my guy and I were crazy people and you are a young lady doing this, blah blah, safety issues, blah, blah and ended with the "does your mom know you do this? She laughed me off but then I said the opposite, and of course did what idiotic people do, asked if she was a serial killer (sometimes, the light is just not on in my head). I put myself in her position and thought this is crazy for her to do this especially in a city and I know I would not be able to pick hitch hikers up with the ease that she did. But all ended well, I elicited a patronizing promise to be careful (she was on her way back to pick others up to make extra money)and we got back to the hotel.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
30 Nov 09
Hi Lina, well I've obviously been going about this all wrong and should take your lady from Baltimore as an example and start charging my pensioners for their free rides. I think if she was doing it in such an enterprising way then she would most definitely have been safe. Locally if I didn't have the car for some reason I'd definitely hope for a lift if needed one but wouldn't hitch, but have mostly been lucky in someone stopping. The only time I've ever needed to go over the mountain without the car was to collect the car from somewhere and I went to the bus stop and a local stopped and drove me up to town and took less time than the bus which takes an hour and a half. But this is a rural and safe area and not the badlands of America.
Anyway I'm glad you've not got the requisite rob me sign on your forehead and were indeed a reluctant hitcher yourself.
@happy2512 (1266)
• Philippines
30 Nov 09
Some are dangerous some are not but for my own safety if I am a driver I will never stop to give them a free ride unless I know that person. Its dangerous they could be a car-jacker, serial killer etc.