Why does The Koran say that the Bible is accurate?
By badfish
@badfish (208)
United States
November 29, 2009 6:00pm CST
In the Koran it states that the Bible is accurate but man Distorted it to make it say what he wanted. and the Koran is the uuterance of God to Mohammad.
Historically and Documentary literary evidence shows the Bible has not been altered?
The Bible containes no Grammatical errors where the Koran does.
my question is this and I do not mean to offend.
How can they both be accurate and still not agree on basic things?
there is no reconciliation between the two.
There are Major differences. how can the Koran instruct that the Bible is Good when its contradicts the Koran on many things.
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5 responses
@mains50 (299)
• Canada
30 Nov 09
before we start please prove that koran has grammar mistakes.
Islam is the next level of christanity. Same as religion of jewish people.
Why do christain have so many different bibles?
i found an article showing that bible has 50,000 error mistakes:
www.jamaat.net/bible/AwakeArticle(1957).html
@badfish (208)
• United States
30 Nov 09
I will show the grammatical errors give me some time to find the reference. Christians have One bible. Translations are not different Bibles nor more than an english translation of the Koran is not another Koran. when the Koran is translated into English and German and french are those different Korans or just a translation. I have 2 english Korans worded slightly different why are they worded different are they different Korans?
The Errors mentioned are almost all Just differences between the Koran and the Bible or misunderstanding of the doctrine. there were no gramatical errors nor spelling errors nor geographical errors. all the errors are easily explained with common sense and a understanding of Christian doctrine.
the religions are not the same there are many differences. keyed Mostly on the Person of Jesus but also many other things.
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
30 Nov 09
Claims are made about different books being the word of God. Since these different books contradict one another they cannot all be right. I think each person needs to look at the different books and decide for themselves which book is really the word of God.
Isaiah 40:8 (New International Version)
8 The grass withers and the flowers fall,
but the word of our God stands forever."
1 Peter 1:24-25 (New International Version)
24For,
"All men are like grass,
and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25but the word of the Lord stands forever." And this is the word that was preached to you.
I have always been curious the Bible claims to be the word of God. Can anyone give me a quotation where the Koran makes the claim to be the word of God?
1 Thessalonians 2:13 (New International Version)
13And we also thank God continually because, when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the word of God, which is at work in you who believe.
@1hopefulman (45120)
• Canada
30 Nov 09
Thank you mains50! Could you write out the quote in English please?
@Harley009 (1416)
• India
3 Dec 09
Good Question
Islam, means submission or peace, it is not a new religion. It is the religion of God -The guidance of God to mankind- since the beginning of mankind. The guidance was revealed through several prophets in different times.
There were some set of revelations revealed to some of the prophets which are known as holy scriptures. Holy Quran is the last edition of those revelations which revealed through the final prophet -Prophet Mohammad-. The basic theory of all these revelations were same but with some change in the rules and regulations based on the development and type of people.
Holy Quran mentions 4 holy scriptures by name.
Zabur (Pslams) to Dawud (David)
Taurat (Torah) to Musa (Moses)
Injeel (Gospel) to Iesa (Jesus)
Quran to Mohammad
Quran as the last edition of the manual from God, which mentions that the previous scriptures were meant for those people at their time and in each time there were a good news of next prophet and about a last prophet and when the next prophet come they should accept them.
When the Prophet Jesus Christ came all the people living there mostly the followers of Torah and Moses should have believed in Jesus, and at that time Jesus was the way, and he taught people that 'Lord our God is one and worship him alone'. And when the next prophet came the people should have believed in him and when the last prophet came people should have believed in him.
Basics of all theses messages were same, and those prophets submitted their will to Almighty God, so they all were Muslims.
We agree that all those scriptures are true and they are meant for those people at their time but the basic theory is same and matching with Quran. For this time Quran is the testament, the last edition of the manual for human beings.
However the scriptures known today as Torah or Gospel or Psalms are not exactly the word of God, it may contain some. The Bible undergone changes, and even now it is changing as you can see, several versions of Bible, some has different set of books some are having different set of sources etc. some denominations got some set of books some others having different sets, some versions of Bible don't have some verses, and lot of contradictions in Bible. Also Many dogma preached by Christian churches are not in the Bible.
There is no clear words in Bible in which Jesus himself says that "I am God, worship me" But Jesus teaches that "Lord our God is one, and worship him alone"
Jesus says that: he was sent to the lost sheeps of Israel.
Quran stays in it Original language without change of any word and without any contradiction in it. The grammatical mistake what you say are not grammatical mistakes, because the style of Quran is mixture of poetic and textual style and one sentence conclude back to previous lines, and those usages are perfect.
Islam is the only religion which acknowledge belief in Jesus Christ.
Quran says:- "Do they think that Quran is not from God? if it was not from God you must have found a lot of discrepancies in it."
May Almighty God guide us all to the right path.
Peace.
@badfish (208)
• United States
4 Dec 09
Where is there evidence in the Bible that Islam is a continuation of the same religion?
the messages really are not the same there are Lots of differences which are vital points. Jesus Divinity, Atonement, The Sacrifice of Jesus, and escatology etc.
after the evidence has been reviewed ( Historical legal archeaologial manuscript etc)it is HIGHLY improbable that the Bible has undergone any changes, other than translations which do not alter the original.
Jesus in the Book of John Claims to Be God stating he is I AM, and after this Jews picked up stones to kill him for claiming this. in the book of Revaltion states he is the Alpha and Omega. In the begining of John claims he was with God and was God. also claims that by him all things were created. and many many more
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@murderistic (2278)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Badfish, I am assuming you are a Christian. As a fellow Christian, I think it's safe to say that we do not have to prove by logic that the Bible is the book of God and that it is accurate. Faith speaks louder than logic. We cannot prove that Christianity is the right path by finding the flaws in other religions... all we need to do is show that good in our own! How God humbled Himself to dwell with His people through His son Jesus Christ, and how Jesus was slain on the cross as a sacrifice for the sins of the world. The teachings and life of Jesus reflect how amazing our loving God is - He told us to love our neighbors AND our enemies, to care for the poor, sick and marginalized. The message of the gospel is love. And that is what we need to preach and to live - LOVE. Because God IS love.
1 Corinthians 13
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
@opalina143 (1240)
• Morristown, New Jersey
30 Nov 09
You are conveniently ignoring all the passages in the old testament where God tells the Israelites to conquer nations and murder all the people, including men, women and children. There is a passage that says Blessed are they who dash their babies against rocks. That sure doesn't sound like love to me.
Not only that, but if Christianity's message is love, why has it led to so much bloodshed? Witch burnings, wars, the Inquisition, the subjugation of peoples in South America, etc? Historically Christians have been some of the most violent people on earth.
@badfish (208)
• United States
30 Nov 09
Although I applaud your faith. I kindly disagree. God is orderly and Logical. why follow a path that is non sense? I like to seek out the answers and a flaw in a system is a big deal when dealing with eternal salvation.
we must be ready to give a answer for the hope that is in us.
quoting the Bible is just about meaningless if we do not understand its meaning and revalence. Im not claiming to understand everyrthing nut I do believe it is possible for things to make sense.
@deviltamer (64)
• India
30 Nov 09
Well, I don't the answer exactly but I can correct you in some way that if Quran is not altered any times whereas bible is surely altered with as it has NO grammatical error. A book so much old and yet not having any mistakes is somewhat unbelievable. A lot of work is going on by scientists and theory makers on this. Check out Da vinci code and Angels and demons to connect to my idea of Jesus. Just Jesus, nothing else in the story I barely think I believe. The thing surely strikes me, that there might be misuse of Jesus image by church and kings of rome.
@badfish (208)
• United States
30 Nov 09
I would like you to reference some of these errors? those books are fiction and based on fictional accounts of things that never occured in history.
I do not understand the Image by church of rome and kings or what your are refering to? please clarify
@deviltamer (64)
• India
30 Nov 09
Those documents you are referring to as proof as in my belief and thesis are highly altered, you read it HIGHLY. The chance are what the original author may have written in Greek that Jesus was Mary's son, passing on with so much Translations and authors with different mindsets now come to us that he was the son of a virgin Mary. I said maybe don't take it necessary. Hence, by this way Bible in any way cannot be used as proof. I have this website supporting my view, Just for your convenience I am quoting them. The same thesis applies for Quran also.
@deviltamer (64)
• India
30 Nov 09
you are too much stubborn man at your point if you continues that way you will never gonna understand what I want to say. Relax and meditate and read it twice and try to interpret it differently.
...................... If you hadn't done what I have asked please don't read further and don't reply If you can't.
I didn't said that someone tampered it but somebody can sure interpret it wrong and forward it. Moreover, societies change and with societies rules, regulations and meanings changes, morals changes. The same document carries forward. And with no proof other than original documents that date 2000 years back I will be satisfied that Bible has no alterations even with so many translations. A text with same thing can be interpreted differently by different people even having no errors in the copies then how can you de so damn sure that Bible is a evidence.
What you may interpret might not be what Jesus or the person who wrote that qoute (call me atheist,it doesn't matter) mean.
Now read it all once more for the sake of this discussion and reply only then