i am venting! need your advise...sorry if it is long
By Sweetchariot
@Sweetchariot (1718)
United States
December 2, 2009 10:46am CST
I am very active in my parish church, purely voluntary. Unfortunately in most every group I get involved in, there is one person who always seems to join us...she is a paid employee by the church, and also a good friend of mine.
At one time, she used to say that she was the Liason for the Pastor. While I had no problem with that, I do have a problem with how she needs to control the groups, by making everything her decision. One small group, that her and I were members of, left me with listening to her do all the talking, and how she thought no one else's input was good enough. Of course no one else knew the comments she made against them, because she would only say them to me. To their face, she was as polite as any one could be.(which made me gag all the time). I finally dropped out of that group but never let her know that she was the reason.
I was also a member of the Woman's guild where there are elected officers, President, Secretary, Vice President, and Treasurer. She didn't have one of these roles, however, you might have thought she did. She often lead the group instead of the President,because she didn't think the person was good enough. The group was a fairly large group, but quickly diminished. I believe it was because of her controlling issues, but I can't be sure. Instead of being miserable and resenting her, I decided to drop out of that group, and never told her why.
I finally came to the conclusion that while I enjoy her as a friend, I cannot work with her on anything, because I cannot deal with her controlling issues. It would be best for me to be involved with groups that she is not in.
Recently, we started a fundraising group that consisted of 6 people. Again, it was my idea to start one, but enjoyed the idea of having the input of others on what kind of functions we can have. When she wanted to join the group, I went along with it, because it had been some time since I worked with her, and thought I was over her issues. Well, The first fundraising event was decided upon by my friend, naturally. It wasn't all what we had discussed previously, but it was her idea that we had to settle on. Then during one of the meetings, after someone had given her opinion, she laughed and told that person that she was stupid, and what kind of idea was that! The person she said this to never batted an eve. If it had been me, I would've walked out of that meeting, and never returned. Every fundraising event that we have held, she has never did the grunt work. Instead she plays the role of Hostess, and leaves it up to everyone else to do the sweat work. While I have never regretted doing the physical work, because I love to keep busy, I have despise the fact that she can sit back and take part of the credit.
Now it seems that her work schedule is so busy, that she feels that she can't be involved in any fundraising events, so instead of walkinig out of the committee, she has told the pastor that the Committee has been banished for now, because of her hectic schedule. I was fuming! How dare she desolve our group because she can't be involved! And I am angry because the others on the committee have sat back and let it happen. Neither one of them has spoken up about it, and they have allowed the group to fold.
Am I the only one who sees who she really is? Am I imagining things, and am I very critical of someone when I shouldn't be? Am I in the wrong? Please let me know...I am so angry at her, that I can't see straight. I know I should just let it be, but why is it that everything she gets involved in, it folds, and it hurts the rest of us. I love to be involved in our Parish, unfortunately, if she is going to make her self involved in everything I join, how am I going to be able to enjoy what I do. HELP!
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@evaleighna (16)
• United States
2 Dec 09
i know this is easier said than done but for her own good, tell her off. she seems to be a major control freak and i find it shocking that she gotten through life this far with out someone saying something. if she don't like it then you need a better friend anyway so just write her off.
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@Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Yes, I do need a better friend, and would like to write her off, but It's not going to be that easy, since she is everywhere in that church, and the pastor thinks she is perfect. He doesn't know or wants to know what she is like, and I am sure that she will lie her way thru everything anyway. I will end up the bad guy. I wish I could sit back like everyone else and don't let her bother me...
Thanks for letting me vent!
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Your friend is a control freak. If she doesn't have the time to control and manipulate something, then she truely thinks that no one else can either. My question, is why are you allowing groups to fold just because she's exited? The church and any groups associated with it belong to everyone, not just her.
The first order of business for a group (especially the fundraiser one that you started), should have been a letter to her thanking her for her contributions and extrending 'heartfelt good wishes' to her in her future involvements. Send a copy to her, to the pastor and perhaps even put one in the church bulletin. What you really needed was a game plan for the group...without her. After the letter is written, delivered and/or printed, move immediately on to the next order of business. Groups functioned before she became involved, they can certainly function after she's gone. Exceedingly well, I might add.
Most church groups are based on fundraising or charity in one form or another. They not only benefit the church, but they benefit those involved and who ever or what ever is the recipient of the charity work. If your friend has told the pastor that the group has dissolved because she 'doen't have the time', make a followup meeting yourself to clear up any misunderstandings. Let him know that the group started before her involvement, and will continue even though she has moved on to other involvements. I can't imagine that he wouldn't be relieved. Charity groups within his parish are feathers in his cap to his superiors.
Good luck! I had a friend like that on more than one occasion. They seem to believe that tha sun is in the sky to shine just on them. It's unforgivable that she laughed at a committee member and called their ideas 'stupid'. Some one needs to take the responsibility to point out to her that the group IS a committee and EVERYONE's ideas are welcome and important. It's difficult to politely and tactfully stand up to a person like that, but once it's done a few times, it becomes easier. Trust me.
@Sweetchariot (1718)
• United States
2 Dec 09
Thank you so much for your words of wisdom! I have no idea why we let everything close because of her. I guess I am tired of the only one seeing these things, and watching everyone else accept her behavior. I guess, I don't want to seem like the b*tch, and if it doesn't bother anyone else, than who am I to make a hassle of it. But you are so right in everything you said, and I will make plans after Christmas and speaking to the Pastor about this, so he will know why we folded as we did.
Thank you!
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
3 Dec 09
I dont think you are the only one seeing these things, but you may be the catalyst to cement the groups back into being so that the good works can continue. I also wouldn't worry about coming across as a b*tch...that role is already filled. Your strength is in wanting to act on the urge to do charitable deeds and hoping that the churh will support your efforts. There is more strength in perseverance than there is in a big mouth.
I would think that these days of declining attendance and closing parishes, that the pastor would be thrilled to see continued activity in the church in the form of charitable groups. Maybe he doesn't like being under her thumb any more than you do. Or, he shouldn't anyway...