Men and cheating.
By laydee
@laydee (12798)
Philippines
December 3, 2009 8:30am CST
I was reminded by what my MBA Classmates told me a few years back when the discussion on men and cheating was opened up in one of our sessions. They were quite older since the class was made-up of top executives.
When I asked them (after they admitted committing such transgressions) about what they expected their wife to react or do after such confessions. They simply told me: "DO NOT LET GO".
I would have easily left once I find that my husband/partner has someone new because I would think that 'he doesn't want me anymore, so why should I stay?' 'Isn't him cheating a way for me to understand that he wants out?'
But they told me that they do regret committing such an act (only when it's not committed continuously or truly a cheater) and if their wives left them, they'd feel that they didn't deserve such a wife thus they wouldn't have ran after her. Which would have meant that they would have separated, should their wives have left in that situation.
Which is why I'm quite curious as to other men or women in mylot.
For men: If you cheated and your wife discovers it, what would you want them do?
For women: If your husband cheats, can you still stay? Was the advise of staying a good advise (for those who have experienced being cheated and stayed).
What do you think?
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5 responses
@ilyzium (1197)
• Canada
4 Dec 09
You know I've actually thought about this many times. First of all I think if my husband were to cheat, I would probably forgive him if it were a one time thing. However, if it were an ongoing thing like with Tiger Woods, for example, that I could not forgive because I see someone like that as being a complete and utter slimeball and manipulator. I think any person that chooses to have, say a longer term relationship with someone else, while married does not deserve to be forgiven. Really, how would you ever be able to trust someone like that, or anything that came out of their mouth? Also you have to consider that risks of STD's if you chose to stay with someone that's messing around. I was readingy a study somewhere that stated there is a correlation between men's income and the chance of cheating, that the higher the income the greater the chance of cheating. Also I think the ego plays a huge part in it as well.
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@Godmother (476)
• Indonesia
7 Dec 09
I have lots of men-friends because I'm an open kind of person and they can discuss anything with me without feeling being judged. And yes, most of them are cheating or are trying to do so. Look, the saying is "it takes 2 to tango" so by what I've heard so far are those men who aren't satisfied with their wives anymore because of her attitude and ignorant towards their feelings. They want to come home to a loving family after a day's hard work, they want to find comfort too. If the wives understand that partly it is her fault too that he seeks refuge or comfort in another woman's arms, then she should forgive him and try to work things out. But if he's just a jerk who likes women, then leave him. Some of their wives forgave them, and some left. But I always try to educate my friends to face the problem at home, and find a way out, educate each other, talk to each other, and not run away to another woman's arms, because I find that cowardly.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
7 Dec 09
I do believe that no one is perfect, and not a single person could ever be put to the test of temptation. I know how you feel with regards to having lots of men friends who are either trying to cheat or are cheating. I do agree with you with regards to 'it takes two to tango' but it will be always the woman (the other woman) who chooses to allow a man to cheat or not.
I don't think a woman in the right mind would ever want to 'share' a married man. I think there's some sort of motivation like money or personal needs that leads a woman to accept a married man. But we all know we wouldn't want our husbands to do that to us.
However, I think at the time of weakness of a married couple, it is the obligation of the other people to be the 'listener' but not to be involved by cheating. They should strive to help the person by advising them both to talk to each other instead of looking for someone else (which often the worst thing to do).
It's good that you educate them to face their problems. At least you were not tempted to be more than a friend. I'm pretty sure the wives would appreciate your actions and I do pray that if ever your husband goes through the 'weakness' other women would be able to do what you did.
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
7 Dec 09
laydee,
Let me begin by saying that I find your perception on cheating very interesting when you perceive a man will cheat because he does not want to be with his wife anymore. As quoted by you: 'Isn't him cheating a way for me to understand that he wants out?'
Well, let me say that you are quite a distance from partially right. In the first place, most people do not simply go about cheating without no rhyme(S) or reason(S). It takes two hands to clap, two to tango and certainly two to antagonize a relationship, too.
It is always easy for us to jump into conclusion that men are untrustworthy, cheaters, betrayers and every known unpleasantry you can think of to make them conniving cheats.
Yet, I wonder if we have forgotten to look the other side where they have to put up with their mates' unnecessary paranoia, unappreciated efforts, poor bedside manners, cynicism, ungratefulness, inconsiderate habits, the unwilling nights, unforgiving attitude over past issues where the problem with people is that they want to know their partner's detailed history, yet their love and maturity are not magnanimous enough accept the outcome, and many many more demeanors you can think of. Don't forget, we are all imperfect people, living in an imperfect world.
I can tell you from my experiences with couples who stray, it is never an overnight kind of decision. It is an accumulative account of things which can even begin since courtship days.
Talking about research, there was a study on why the 3rd party would still go into an affair with full awareness and it concluded that these ladies find the UNAVAILABILITY actually very amusing and utterly attractive. Sounds familiar? How about "Fatal Attraction" and "Indecent Proposal"?
As the saying goes: "We all will have our moments..." and temptations is in the list (unfortunately). So, what happens after that, will depend on how both parties can arrive to a compromise to be willing to continue with the marriage or relationship per say. I mean, how can I convince you to stay if you cannot accept and not sway away from your belief that I still want and need you?
Please do not take it that I am taking potshots at women or I am condescending here. I am sure everyone of us is aware of the term "give and take" but how much willingness on both parties is really individual most of the time. Whether both parties can be back together will just have to depend on whether they can evolve within and start anew to reach the endpoint together again. It is just multifarious here as every successful relationship is mutual exclusive.
So, it is not simply men are fond of cheating and they cannot dictate or rather expect to have what they want their wives to do. Especially, when the wives does not want anything to do with the relationship or marriage or most of all - them (husbands) anymore.
Take care and have a nice day.
@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
7 Dec 09
You do have a point there. And yet, it also amuses me how you could say that the paranoia and the sorts are only the problems of men in women. How about the lack for interest of the man? About how romantic they were during courtship and now that they're married he can't even afford to buy her presents for no reason at all?
A married woman once told me (her husband was cheating), that men always remain boys. They are out there working and they expect to come home to a wife that will give her 100% to them without thinking that they have kids that she is taking care of. He expects her to be pretty all day, to be supportive and to be the sweetheart when he fails to realize that apart from her working all day unappreciated and unpaid (if she is a housewife) - a most monotonous chore with no end nor benefits.
That same woman also told me that should the man make the mistress a wife, then he would find her in the same situation as the original wife. The mistress is just cute and all because she has no other responsibility but be a toy for the boy.
So, I guess the main point in this scenario is the fact that as men and women live together and grow old together. They fail to see their differences, and instead of finding these differences 'cute' (as they did when they were still going out), they abhor these differences and would soon want a way out instead of facing the problem. They no longer talk as they would before (when they would be oh-so understanding and patient).
Thank you indeed for the insights. :) Appreciate it.
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
7 Dec 09
laydee,
No offense taken as I am merely stating my case as per discussion and interestingly since you have mentioned about men loosing interest, I'd like to reiterate that there will be no fire if there's no spark. Like I said before, resentment in a relationship just does not happen overnight but rather an accumulative account of things which can even begin since courtship days.
I do understand your other POV and scenario here, as there are just some despicable characters who simply does not have any inkling intention of being sincere and truly committed to the relationship. But then, I suppose it will only be befitting for it to be mentioned in another discussion.
Anyway, great post and kudos, here.
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@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
3 Dec 09
I would want my wife to forgive me but something women can't do that. Forgiveness isn't about getting away with it but its a way to heal the pain.
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@laydee (12798)
• Philippines
4 Dec 09
It's true.
I think the problem there is the fact that when man asks for forgiveness, he expects her to forget everything just like that. Well, it takes years and years to heal a broken trust, and he needs to be ready to support her when the hurt or pain comes back.
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@reignlot (2)
• Philippines
4 Dec 09
i am not yet married yet i want to respond to your topic... for me yes wife should stay... if you really love that person(husband) you should learn to forgive.. as the bible says forgive 70*7 so do u think you have reach 249 times of forgiving that's why you don't want to give him a chance anymore?...do you like to see your children longing for a whole happy family?you choose do you want your family to be one of the broken family?
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