One day for love in 2012
By vanny
@vandana7 (100303)
India
December 13, 2009 12:23am CST
I really dont know how to express this. But I am hoping those who come across this discussion do not misunderstand me. We have fought, we have been angry with each other, we hold grudges, and we are disappointed with others. Not only with mylotters, we have also been like that within our real life social circles, be it family, friends, or workplace. Now, for one day - just one day in a year - one day in our lifetime may be - let us all forget about our differences. Let us just not think how another person ill-treated us. Let us think how we can go together to the era beyond 2012 just by sheer force of our ability to love and forgive. Just one day. I was suggesting December 1, 2012. It would be a date to remember. Let us ask all our friends and relatives and even enemies to look at this as the day when we collectively form a force through our love to counter the 2012 if it is likely to happen. Can we just try it? It doesnt cost us a thing! But we stand to gain a lot if love does have such a power. What do you say, are you a game?
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
13 Dec 09
Hi vandana,
Those are some really nice thoughts but still, why wait until December 1, 2012? And why only one day?Why not start right now and go forth every day with love in our hearts and spreading love and happiness? If everyone took care to see that all the energy they put out in their own little world was of love then that would be very very powerful. Don't ya think?
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
14 Dec 09
Hi sid, :) I really appreciate that. :) I wish we could do what you suggest. But targets should always be achievable. There are things that are deeply seated in many, a lot of pain to an extent that forgiveness on regular basis is as asking a bit too much. Very difficult for some. So those who find it difficult and have adequate reasons to find it hard to forgive, I just want them to try to recall happy moments they shared with their now enemy, former friend, and kind of relive the moment. I am trying to counter 2012 belief with a positive belief that we can release some positive vibes by having loving thoughts, which are powerful enough to override these cosmic phenomenons. I want to check whether fear of such event can actually help some to put a few of their prejudices behind.
@coolcoder (2018)
• United States
13 Dec 09
How about, instead of being freaked out about a doomsday that isn't going to happen on December 21, 2012, we start being kind to each other each day, and not just three years from now? It makes no sense to keep harping and griping about everything another person does or says, and then for 24 hours only, be kind and compassionate to one another. It should be something we do every day of the year, all year.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Dec 09
coolcoder right on, how about us being this way every day all year every year think how much we could all accomplish
@Buchi_bulla (8298)
• India
13 Dec 09
I am with you Vandana . I will forget all my hurts, depressions, disappointments and forgive the people who caused that to me. I will love all without any condition. I will pray God that for this pure love and affection's sake, let him leave us from the nature's fury.
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
13 Dec 09
Hi Buchi_bulla, I am not asking for extraordinary things. Everybody with whom we are annoyed has hurt us in some ways. People who hurt us have also been people whom we loved once upon a time. But our dislike has completely overshadowed those times, which I feel releases only bad vibes in environment, and in turn, more people are inclined to remember their hurts. If we for a day shelve those thoughts, and concentrate only on the happy thoughts, even relating to our enemies, and are good with them at least for a day, may be the good vibes that we release in the environment come back to us. I dont really believe in 2012 per se. I used 2012 as a source of fear that could unite all of us. Thanks for your prayers. :)
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
14 Dec 09
I don't exactly get your points here, my friend. But I understand that you are preparing something that there will happen on 2012...Did you fear that year will be the big event of all the creatures of the earth?
No need for us to recruit or say love each other. Because is spread all over the world. What kind of love you want to be? If you we can love each other in purpose but if there is no hindrances...
Love is all around, my friend don't worry about that...
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
15 Dec 09
Ah aerous, thank you for giving me opportunity for explaining.
1. I dont believe the event will happen. But many do. We humans have a tendency to unite against any such events, be it the manmade terminatory, or nature made calamities. Ironically, it is fear that unites us.
2. If we as humans fear the phenomenon that is not really certain then there may be a way out of this, which is as of now equally unproven. I am suggesting that it is collective feeling of love. We've never tried it. It is an opportunity for us to experiment it.
3. I suggest that there are many feelings that move across without communicating through normal mode of communication. For example - you are leaving a theater that gives you a feeling of optimism. And just as you come out, you notice an accident. That feel good factor evaporates. But if the same accident was reported over the television, your feelings of sadness might not have been that intense. I suggest that there is something like cosmic energy which leaves from one body and passes through another aligning the internal chemical components (dextro levo rotation) to perceive those feelings. The impact is less at home, as there is not adequate amount of that energy coming from all sources. This is unproven, but it is as much of a possibility as the end of the world in 2012.
4. So is it possible to stop that phenomenon with love? We with our love would form a common barrier across the world, that prevents the cosmic energies having their way. At least, love is believed to have that power, so shouldn't we put it to test?
5. Love our enemies? Is it possible? Of course not! We are no saints. Therefore, this seems impossible thing to ask. Isn't it? I was again suggesting dont leave your prejudices. Just reflect before the due date, was everything about that relationship truly bad? Were there no good moments, were there no moments when the other person was kind, and good to you? Agreed, eventually things soured. But the period of love or friendship that we shared was much longer, isn't it? Should we let a period of dislike because of an action overshadow our previous selves so much that we amputate a part of our life?
6. So the ultimate thing that I am asking is on that one day we dont think bad about that person who hurt us, we dont think "why did he / she hurt us", or "if only he/she had not done that", or "I wish this (bad) happens to him/her", or "God will punish him/her", or "He/she had it coming", or anything of that sort. Instead, we focus on how much love we have in us, and how much we can share with everybody, and possibly, how much we enjoyed even with that friend turned enemy. If we feel our hearts with love only for one day, with no anger for anybody, may be we can thwart the cosmic energies getting a smooth passage through us.
7. We can resume our hatreds and thoughts the following day. Too much of bottling is not good. But to reach that level of controlling thoughts completely for one day, we need to practice and resolve. That is why so much of gap.
I thought may be we may experience something good with this attempt.
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
14 Dec 09
Of course, it need not wait that long. And I am so glad aerous there are people like you. :) But I think we can have more people participate in this, if we wait a bit longer. And another factor is the fear. If we try to even do it for one day, and believe me I tried today, it was tough! Under normal circumsances, it might have been easier, but our mind is a strange thing rather my mind is an indisciplined brat, what I try to ask it not to do, it goes about doing exactly that! So it will be a tough call for some of us. It gives us a chance to try and recall some good moments with these foes of ours, and may be even kindness so that we feel more composed, and a need to unite. That is the idea. :) I am not asking that you call up your enemy and tell them explicitly you've forgiven them. I am only asking you not to recall any wrong done to you - for one day.
@eddify (412)
• Pakistan
15 Dec 09
Anybody could be a game for it, to see what exactly happens on this very day. If we live long otherwise everybody knows the predictions about this year so if some of us are alive by that date why not give it a try and see what happens. Its not really about love, its about thinking of everyone as one and united and equal too.
@eddify (412)
• Pakistan
16 Dec 09
Actaully it depends how much your communicating in the said language and how much time u spend reading or listening in the same. Imagien when a kid is born he learns it by listening and then repeating what we say. So in my view if u listen enoguh u will be able to express more.
@Totorns (13)
•
13 Dec 09
Hi there!
Season's greetings!
To be honest with you, I believe your not alone with this. But the fact is, this is reality were talking about here. I was able to listen to a good talk by a person named Bo Sanchez. He said in a speech that relationships are not like something we wish from heaven to fall right away and thats it. He said we have to work for it. So I guess that's it we just have to work for it because afterall, if we really want it, we will endure. Good luck to us all!
Merry Christmas!
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
14 Dec 09
Hi Totorns, that is a nice observation by Bo Sanchez. We do need to work on every relationship. I often think that people with whom we have major altercations, or differences are people we once loved. I think well, we loved them for almost 10 or 20 yeasrs, and one episode of about 2 or 3 days is enough to over ride that? Is that it? Am I so immature? Am I not wiping out part of my life as well? Everytime I think of them, I can only remember the last two or three days when we fought! I seem to have written off whatever pleasant moments I had as something that happened in somebody else's life. It is that realization that has prompted me to revisit those feelings. I also want to counter this 2012 prophecy with an equally illogical but plausible way. Suppose we all are just filled with loving thoughts for a day - with no free passage for feelings of hatred that may be moving cosmically - now such resistance to cosmic energy is likely to reduce any natural force that is coming in. And therefore, it may be possible to thwart nature's anger with such an effort, just by practicing it for one day! We can all check whether we feel good after that. Can't we? Suggesting that we practice it everyday seems a bit tough. Small steps towards bigger objective may be? :)
@JeromeLau (98)
• South Korea
15 Dec 09
Why talk so much?i just have no much time to look your nonsense. I have to write a report that time.
Yes! I'm younger than U . Why? How?
OK, now !It's my turn .First! I just come this site for my friend .And this is not my job . Maybe it's your all work! I come to make money or not ,that's none of your business. Second! If i want to say ,I can say many words.```Despite my mother tongue is not English. But that is my freedom ,OK? :)
Last Good luck to us all! Merry Christmas!
PS:You have misunderstood my words,and maybe me,too.
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
22 Dec 09
No Jerome Lau. Whatever it is. If you came here, you do know what love is. And if you even bothered to read the discussion it means you did want something like that. Its ok. Just be happy, and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well. :) Thanks for wishing that. :)
@grecychunny26 (9483)
• Philippines
14 Dec 09
What is December 1, 2012. We can forgive those person who have hurt us in the past, we can forgive them but we can't forget what has happened. I have so many enemies in the past, I called them evil monster and until now. Everything that has happened that cause me to be hurt deeply I already forgiven them but I can never forget it. everytime I remember it I remember the pain and it is still painful. I choose not to be friends with them , never. You can spread love everyday it depends on you, but I will never spread love to people who have hurted me and I don't want to receive love from them too. i am just being true. I want to give my love to people who deserves it. About one day for love, it can happen even as always.
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
14 Dec 09
I am not asking you to forgive or forget in that sense. :) I am just asking you to spend that one day remembering only the good moments that you shared with such a person. If it hurts too much just obliterate the hurt for a day. Let us see if we can only be filled with love for one day, if we recall no unhappy thought about any pain, but only love for all those who are around. Is it possible? That shouldnt be very difficult I think. It just needs a bit of resolve. I am not asking you to call them. I just want your mind to be vacant of any anger, hatred, dislike, etc., and filled with love instead - just one day.
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
15 Dec 09
Thank you whyaskq. :) I like your avatar. :) very cute. :) Well, february 14th is a good date - except that it is mostly confined to romantic kind of love, isn't it? Love is more than just the love between two partners, it is also love between mother and child, father and child, brothers and sisters, friends, and pets. That is why just for a day we will not be prisoners of rancor. That is what I was suggesting. And thans for agreeing to participate in this. :)
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
13 Dec 09
vandana 7 but is that not how we should live every day? I mean what really good will just one day do? If we can come together before then why not do so? surely you really do not believe this
hooey about the world coming to an end in 2012? Prophets and ordinary people have for 70 years said the world was coming to an end.yet here we are in 2010. but if we could all get together all the time like that what wonderful things could happen.Love has trendous power and all together we would have tons of power to make changes. I may be very naive but should we all not be living this way to make changes around the world?
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
18 Dec 09
Hi Hatley, sorry for delay in response. Just that I kept searching for this one, and finally I found it. My responses are simply too voluminous, arent they? Need to learn how to express myself as briefly as possible. :( Coming to the discussion, you are a strange mix of naivette and wisdom. :) If we are told to do something everyday, and for which there is no penal action, or reward, we are not likely to do it! That is human nature! At least, that is what I understood so far! So tell them, look sin as much as you want, except that one day. When you give people that kind of liberty, then the attraction of defying the norm is lost, and they dont do it as ferociously as they would have had such things been imposed on them. For example, try spending one day not thinking about your problems but only positive things in your life. Just one day. And you will know how much you have to control and monitor your mind for that. But if there is nothing like that, you may have several such days where you are quite happy and the problems take a backseat. I too dont believe it, but I do believe that humans unite against any calamity or fear. So, we will unite as we get closer. Those who believe in such forecasts should not have any problem in believing in true power of love and comraderie that can thwart cosmic forces. For those of us who are shall I call realistic, it would help to leave our skepticism just for a day. How about it?
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
13 Dec 09
This is a great idea Vandana. Perhaps one day of love and forgiveness will begin within each of us a new habit that we can practice every day!
Karen
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
13 Dec 09
Yes, that was the idea peacefulwmn. We do tend to completely erase the good times we shared, and focus only on bad, dont we? Why do we do that? After all, it is part of our own life that wipe off! I am expecting nothing extraordinary. Just recollect some good times even with your enemies. As I mentioned elsewhere, I expect this to release some good vibes, and may be it will eventually have a good effect on all of us. :) I believe the fear of 2012 should make it easier for us to unite as humanity. :)
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@shivamkapila (764)
• India
20 Dec 09
well dear nothing will happen in 2012 as the earth will not crush and love can spread all over again and agian
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
20 Dec 09
I know. ;) But most are so scared. :) So I came up with this idea to counter their fears. Giving some hope so that they feel equipped to push away the problem. And if I'd say we start from today, then of course, not everybody would manage that, and therefore they would feel, oh! I did that, so now it is impossible, and that is going to happen anyway, and get depressed. :) So I randomly selected just one day.
@satan88 (584)
• United States Minor Outlying Islands
13 Dec 09
don't tell me you actually believe this 2012 stuff. Why do people make up their mind without looking at both sides of the story. Try looking at actual credible sources. There is no such problem. What exactly do you think we should do? Send out good thoughts? I'm game if you are.
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
18 Dec 09
He he Satan! Now it is my turn to laugh! No, not at all. :) I am not at all concerned about 2012. :) But I see so many discussions out here that I feel many are mentally accepting it to be true! It could, for all that it matters, be a propaganda before releasing the movie. I have yet to see Notradamus's evil in blue in North Africa. :) So no, I dont think this will happen before the evil in blue turns up. LOL. Either Nostradamus is wrong or this is wrong. LOL. Kidding. Logically it doesnt fit. We are grossly underestimating the forces of universe. If any such thing were truly there, at least some of the planets in our solar system would have been spinning wildly by now. After all, we have distance of about several years in terms of earth time. Even if they are not in a line and whatever, it still doesn't make sense because such things if they occured before would have been recorded relating to other planets. Researchers have not managed to predict our poor earth's earthquakes with all the data at their disposal, but they are able to precisely predict the turn of axis with data that may be highly inadequate! Beats me how somebody can be so intelligent. LOL. And lets just say, the US President didnt say write off the loans anyway 2012 is coming, and mothers stop studying there is no future. LOL. Nor did the researchers pull out their children from schools telling them look we just have 5 years (presuming this talk started approximately 5 years ago). So there is no point in you going to school, you wont live to work anyway, so here I liquidate my house, let us all enjoy our last few years on earth. :) That is my simple logic about 2012. Not very scientific but still it makes sense, isn't it?
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
18 Dec 09
So Satan, I was trying to use their fears to unite them and make them feel loved and cared, and help them care for others I guess. :) If such thing does happen against all my logics and information of credible sources as you put it, then I would have already started a process that may be (please read it exactly as that - may be) effective in stopping it! An equal amount of illogics has been applied to state that there can be a barrier to the universal phenomenon formed out of love and lack of dislike for others for one day, which would offer resistance to cosmic forces and the phenemonon would leave us alone. This is not proved but neither is the cosmic phenomenon that such timid souls are feeding their minds on. :)
@sunnycool (12714)
• India
13 Dec 09
hi vandana i am really shocked that you came up with this one and implies that you believe such kind of stuff that the world is going to end by december 21,2012.i think it would be better if people can show their love towards their enemies and loved ones every time rather showing it on the day before when a huge disaster would take place.I know that you have something to say about it and i am ready to answer it
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
13 Dec 09
Hi Sunnycool, that is a big compliment coming from youngsters like you. No. I never believed it, ever. :) I just saw too much of violence and students agitation today that prompted me to come up with a discussion that wanted peace all around. Under normal circumstances, we are hardly likely to give it due attention. But with an impending fearsome event, it might just be possible for people to push aside there personal feeligns and look forward to a better future. I just wanted to check whether it is possible to unite like that, even for one day. I am not asking go and hug the person who has wronged you. I am just asking everybody to only remember better times with their friends and relatives so that only good vibes are emanated for one day. What it will do, I dont know. But it was just a suggestion. I dont even know whether such energies come out from everybody!
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
15 Dec 09
Me too. :) By the way Jaromelau, you need to write three to four lines that express your feelings/opinions. :) The idea is to get others to know you, and how you think. That earns you money, if you are here for money. :) Just love makes me think you are much too young to understand any of this. :)
@vijayanths (7877)
• India
13 Dec 09
Hi, Vandana, collective thoughts have great powers. Mass prayers have good results.I am in the game. Do you think too much about 21st December 2012?
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
13 Dec 09
Honestly no. :) But I just wanted to see if we can all have this collective power to be friends with everybody in our thoughts for just a day. For just a day we remember - we dont have to go out and say - hey mister I forgive you, please come for lunch at my place. We just have to remember pleasant moments with that person, that is all. I thought that would emit enough good vibes. Its an experiment, wanted to check whether it is possible. :)
@yugasini (12893)
• Secunderabad, India
13 Dec 09
hi vandana madam,
why you are posting this type of discussions, for 2012 december we have to wait two more years,in all these we do not know what happen to us,we have to angry,hate,love,fought with friends,relatives even with spouse,room mates,class mates,bench mates,work mates,etc etc,let us see what would be happen on that day,have a nice day
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
15 Dec 09
I like your attitude yugasini. :) Amusing and so realistic. :) Yes, without all that, we are not really living, are we? :) That is part of our lives. :) I dont believe in 2012. But there are many who do. And I am only looking at using this a way to make them feel something can be done about it, something that is within our hands. :)
@Baluyadav (3643)
• India
13 Dec 09
hi,vandana,i know that you better know how to express and you did it successfully above discussion.So leave aside the 2012,silly year..i appreciate your proposal.How it would be beautiful if all of us unite together without any inhibitions,unite forgetting everything in mind,mingle with love,affection,with no fear,no tension,no differences...you can convert it as ONE DAY like all other international days like-mothers day,friendship day,thanksgiving day..you can fix one day exclusively for this proposal.How it will be?
I will be the first member in that organization,even there is a fee for join also.
Have a nice time.
@vandana7 (100303)
• India
20 Dec 09
I knew I could bank on you Baluyadav. :) Exactly, "no fear, no tension, no differences". Like the way you put it. As long as we have enemies, we have those three problems without fail, dont we? Every year? Lets first try in 2012, then we might consider it for each year. In any event, anything that becomes a ritual is rarely done with complete heart and soul in it. Isn't it?