Do you think the republicans really care about health care?

United States
December 15, 2009 12:46pm CST
Do you think the republicans care about health care. I think they don't becuase if they did they would have done something about health insurance while bush was in office. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think they really care or are they just acting like they care so they can look like they care about people.
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• United States
16 Dec 09
This is A loaded question like "How come republicans hate immigrants?" When the real question is about Illegal Immigration. Of course Republicans care about Health Care. it's a silly question really. They also care about kids. despite all of the "Bush Hates Kids" signs after he refused to sign off on S-Chip. Just because we don't want to give the government even more power and control over the lives of Americans doesn't mean we don't care about the issue. But since Liberals have no real defense of their ideas they have to go on the attack when people disagree with them. The Obama said that anyone who doesn't support this 2500 page HC Bill that Congress will vote on but won't bother to read, Has a "Pro Slavery Mentality". Even though it was the democrats that fought against the abolition of slavery and the passing of the The Civil Rights Act. It was the REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT FOUGHT TO BRING ABOUT BOTH. It's childish ignorance at best and pure Propaganda at worst. If the Democrats really cared about health care for the people, Then they would simply give tax rebates to pay for health insurance and be done with it. Instead they put up a smoke screen of caring while they pick the pockets of the citizens and use that money to increase the size and power of government to control more and more of your life and mine.
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@missybal (4490)
• United States
16 Dec 09
You speak with a great deal of wisdom. Honestly unless you read proposed and passed bills and follow history with actual documents and block out the media and even school textbooks, there is little chance you have the truth. This I've learned during intense study over the past year.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
15 Dec 09
Republicans care about the same thing the democratic party cares about....more government power. It's good cop/bad cop thing and epending on which little letter you decide to wear next to your name in the voting booth, they are either the good cop, or the bad cop...politics is theater, do not be fooled for one minute in to thinking any of them have your best interest at heart. a far as regular folks go, no one doesn't want some sort of reform to make it more affordable. the hyperoble from the left is that "righties" just want to maintain the status quo....BS....all righties want is the same as us who don;t fall in to either the right or left mold do...we want a constitutional solution that doesn;t bankrupt the country, doesn't impose draconian taxes, doesn't exponentialy increase government power, that deosn't mandate that we have to buy health insurance, that doesn;t create huge government beurocrocies, that doesn;t require a monsterous 2500+ page bill full of legal mumbo-jumbo and one that doesn;t sacrifice the availability and quality of health care we have.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
15 Dec 09
Incidentaly angel, will you be back to resond to anything in your discusions? I'd love to hear your take on some things and besides, you earn more that way, lol.
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@sbeauty (5865)
• United States
16 Dec 09
Republicans only seem to care about opposing everything the Democrats try to do. They say they are representing their states, but personally, no one ever asked me what I think. One of my state senators is Charles Grassley who is a republican who's been on the health care committee from the first. I wrote him a letter and received a form letter in reply stating that he was doing everything exactly the opposite of what I had told him I wanted. I'm a 55 year old woman who hasn't had health care insurance for two years now. I'm not going back to work to get insurance that way, my COBRA from my last job ran out, and there just are no options for me. By the way, the republicans really took care of everything while bush was president. A few more months of their control, and the country would have been totally destroyed.
• United States
16 Dec 09
"A few more months of their control, and the country would have been totally destroyed" While I do agree that Bush wasn't a very good President (for different reasons, probably), I have to say that it wasn't Bush and "them" in control. Democrats had the majority for Bush's final years. And that's when things went from okay to bad to "the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression." There's no one party to blame. They're both inept.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
15 Dec 09
Nope, I don't think they care one tiny little bit! I'm referring to the Republicans in Congress, not Republicans in the general population, by the way. If they cared they'd have done something about during the years they've had control of Congress and the White House. There have been efforts for over forty years to get health care reform so it's not like this issue just sneaked up on us this year. Actually, in my opinion if they're trying to act like they care they're not very good actors. They care about politics, about defeating any bill that is proposed so they can regain power in 2010 and 2012. Before anyone reminds me, I KNOW both sides care about politics and elections, I'm not trying to imply the Democrats are some kind of saints. It just so happens that IN MY OPINION they happen to be on the right side this time and what they want, regardless of WHY they want it, is for the good of the people. Annie
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
15 Dec 09
"I'm referring to the Republicans in Congress" :) your learning grasshoppah! As for why democrats in congress, it most certainly does make a difference why, becuase if they want it to benefit you, they will draft a bill that benifits YOU, if they want it because it gives them more control over our lives, they will draft a bill that benefits THEM...... :( still much to learn grasshoppah!
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• United States
16 Dec 09
Actually annie President George Bush DID try to fix health care. But the democrats fought him tooth and nail. You really should pay more attention.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
15 Dec 09
If you're talking about only the politicians, then I'd say Republicans really don't care. But neither do the Democrats. As stated above me in other opinions, it's all about what gets them more power. As it stands now in mainstream culture, liberalism on a political level has a lot of guilt in it. Politicians do whatever they can to exploit and create victims in order to get the public riled up. "People dying in the streets" is a lot of victims! Poor Johnny and Janey's cancer medicine was too expensive because of the heartless Republicans! Boo! It's all their fault. These good people are victims of the right-wing. It's all sickening. And I think it's hard for any politician to actually care about healthcare. Most are rich by the time they get into political office, and once there, we pay for their AWESOME healthcare packages for them and their families. The only reason I tend to lean right of center on the healthcare issue has to do with what the "caring" liberals are trying to accomplish: taking over 1/6 of the US economy and ultimately working toward a single-payer system. The government wants its hands in too much. Our government is inept. I believe if either side truly cared, they would do the following WITHOUT the extorion and the 2000+ page bills and ultimatums involved: Not punish small businesses, tightly regulate (by means of an American outsourced private panel) health insurance companies, allow people to purchase ANY plan instead of just going state-by-state, regulate these silly lawsuits, and clean up the fraud and the waste that takes place in Medicare/aid. The fact that they're trying to completely change America's healthcare is the surefire sign that they're just trying to increase the size of government. A lot of people don't see the danger of large government. And while there are MANY, just look at one horrific example. Relatively small--compared to what they're trying to grow--government has gotten us into trillions of dollars of debt, and we the taxpayers continue to subsidize every screw-up. Imagine government 20-times the size. Is that worth a few million more people receiving healthcare that might not even end up being as good as emergency room care? Don't forget: there's ALWAYS a difference between a plan on paper and a plan in action. Like Mike Tyson famously said: Everybody's got a game-plan until they get hit.
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@MJay101 (710)
16 Dec 09
I think they care about their own health care. I think most people do. But I think that a lot of republicans favour the private sector approach - they are ideologically incapable of considering a public system. This is fine - if you can afford it. If you can't, you're pretty much boned. But republicans would say: why should we contribute to the cost of healthcare for the poor? To me, it's a no-brainer. Health is a fundamental right.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
16 Dec 09
" Health is a fundamental right" Not according to our consitution it isn't. If the folks in this country genuinely feel that way though, the propper way to go about things is a constituional amendment including a "right to affordable access to healthcare".
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
16 Dec 09
Mjay, there are a lot of misconceptions through out the world about the U.S. system of healthcare, much as there are about yours and Canada's. There is one in particular that there are 47 million people here with out healthcare....this isn;t exactly true. When one breaks down that mumber, it is found that out of that 47 million, at least 12 million are not even US residents, millions more are folks who are well off enough and just prefer to pay out of their own pockets, another group in that number are younger folks who just choose to not carry health insurance, another group from that number are folks who are eligable for services such as Medicaid but either do not know they are eligable or know they are but do not apply for it. this drops the number signifigantly. Then there are a number of smaller local and state programs which provide low cost or free medical services to those who can't afford it. SImply put, it is not a "crisis" as many are making it out to be. Sure, I would love to see things fixed up a bit, and healthcare here can be expensive. But, we have what could be considered the most advanced healthcare available in the world, we would be remiss not to go abut some reform very carefully as to not bring down the quality and availability of that healthcare. No one here DOESN'T want to fixx things, we just don't want to dstroy it while we are fixxing it.
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• United States
16 Dec 09
"But I think that a lot of republicans favour the private sector approach - they are ideologically incapable of considering a public system." Not true. that fact the we actually Have considered a public option is the reason that we oppose it. Creating a "public" "option" (which is neither) Is a sure way to guarantee that No One will be able to afford health care. It's just another gov't Ponzi Scheme.
@speakeasy (4171)
• United States
15 Dec 09
Only as much as the next politician and that includes the Democrats - "will it help get me reelected?" The reason it has not be done before is very simple - as a county, we cannot afford it. However, as we have already seen with the bailouts and stimulus packages - Obama doesn't care how deep in debt we go. If we can't borrow it, he will just print more.
@mikeysmom (2088)
• United States
16 Dec 09
i think they only care about themselves and how much money they can line their pockets with. they are all fat cats and that is how they want to stay. keep the rest of us down and keep living their high lifestyles.
• United States
15 Dec 09
They care the same way everyone cares. The problem is getting them all to agree on what to do about it. THe same problem we have had for years. Everyone cares about it and everyone has a different idea on how to fix it and what needs to be done.None of them agreeing. That is the same problem now. Even within the same parties. There are enough dems to pass a healthcare reform bill right now without even one republican vote....but they can't all agree on what needs to be done and how to do it. Until they all find a plan they can all agree on or at least the majority of them agree on then we won't get healthcare overhaul. The republicans don't have enough votes to hold this thing up. What is holding this bill up is the fact that the democrats can't agree or even compromise with each other on it. To tell you the truth this bill has been watered down so much that I don't know why they are even voting on it anymore. The public option has been taken out and so has the Medicade buy in. There is really nothing left in this bill but a mandate that makes it illegal NOT to have insurance and a bunch of tax increases. How is that going to even begin to fix what is wrong with our healthcare system. It is one big sad joke.