Any tips on how to build credit?
By JenInTN
@JenInTN (27514)
United States
December 16, 2009 5:08am CST
Ok, this is the deal. I am a little irritated because my insurance premiums have been raised based on my credit score. The truth is that I have no credit. I have made my life in a way that I don't owe for anything. I did this because I did not want to be so dependent on my job if something were to happen to me or it. This has bit me in the rear though because now if I needed credit, it would not be there for me. I have always paid my insurance premimums on time and I am really teed off that they would raise my payments to them after so long. It's not much but still it's raised. So tell me..how do I raise my credit score? Any suggestions?
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17 responses
@mentalward (14690)
• United States
16 Dec 09
Unfortunately, the only way to raise your credit score is to get credit. I know, I know, it's like you can only borrow money from a bank if you have enough money already.
I was once told that I should buy a car. There are some dealerships who will do anything to help you buy a car, even if you have bad credit. Then, once you start making payments on time, your credit score goes up.
Other than that, you may be able to find a local store chain that issues credit cards, buy one small thing and, even if you only make one payment, as long as it is on time, your credit score will go up.
My son did that. He was so frustrated at not having any credit score that he found a small merchandise chain and they offered him a credit card. He bought something for around $200.00 and began making payments. (He had the money in the bank to pay it off in full but wanted to establish credit so he made the payments.) Now, he has good credit.
Isn't it awful how you have to have credit to get credit? But, there are some places willing to offer you credit, even these days, although they are hard to find. One thing to remember, though, is that every time you apply for credit, it appears on your credit rating. If you are denied, that also appears. So, it would be wise to ask around and see if anyone knows of a store in your area who will offer credit to just about everyone.
The easiest way, although almost the most expensive way, to get good credit is to buy a car. I'm sure it's harder these days but I'm sure there are still some willing to take the risk. (Maybe they have really large and really tough repossession guys. )
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Dec 09
LOL..I'll keep an eye open for big and tough repossession guys..lol..I was worried about applying for local store cards because I have heard that your credit score goes down each time they check your credit! That seems a little crazy doesn't it? Thanks for the input.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
16 Dec 09
Hi Marti, I'd have to disagree with store cards being the best route as there are better options around. Store cards don't carry the same clout as those issued by reputable banks and don't show as much financial know how as the rates are so high.
Dare I ask if you are any nearer with your claim yet or if the cheque has finally arrived? I do hope they aren't still giving you the runaround.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
16 Dec 09
Hi Jen, your credit score is there to show how good a risk you are and if there is no credit activity an evaluation can't be made. It is irrational to raise premiums because you don't actually have a bad credit history. The simplest way to build a score in circumstances like yours would be to apply for a credit card with zero or low interest, and use it and pay the balance in full immediately, just for the purpose of building a score.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Dec 09
I thought it was crazy for them to do it too. They passed a law last year that insurance companies could raise your premiums or charge you more for a new policy based on your credit score. They sent a little letter in the mail when I got my bill about this new law.
I have actually considered this credit card option but I'm beginning to wonder if I could even get a low interest rate with no credit. Isn't it funny how when you do something to simplify your life, it can still cause things to be complicated? LOl. Thanks for responding.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Dec 09
What worked for me was opening a store charge, JC Penney was pretty easy to get a card with back then. I'd go, make a couple purchases of things I would have bought anyway, paid them off right away. Eventually this allowed me to get a major credit card. Same story. Make a few minor purchases, pay them off.
That really sucks that they would raise your premiums when you always pay on time. And I suppose there's no arguing with them? Or finding other insurance?
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@idowrite72 (2213)
• United States
16 Dec 09
That's funny that you say that JC Penney was easy to get. I was working 2 jobs and living at home and couldn't get a card with them years ago.......and one of the jobs I had was a teaching job!! Maybe that's why I didn't really like shopping there and never really have??!! lol
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Dec 09
Hi dawn! It's actually one of the harder companies to get insurance with in my area. It's Farmers Bureau. Very low rates compared to others so I don't want to change even though they did raise it a little. It's not a huge amount but I figured a loyal customer wouldn't be raised. Anyway..I may mention it when I go pay my bill next time because it is irritating. Take care.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
16 Dec 09
Good morning Jen, my insurance went up to, join the crowd, This is what the bank suggested to my son when he was trying to get his credit established, Borry a small amount of money from the bank & pay it off as soon as u can & that gives u a good rating anyway. I don't know if that's the best info or not. Maybe someone will have a better suggestion.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
16 Dec 09
borry??? i think i made up a new word, lol. borrow is what i meant, sorry about that.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
16 Dec 09
Hey jen, i think everything goes up all the time. I thought it was a yearly thing w/the insurance. I don't know whether it has anything to do w/my credit rating or not. If that's the case that's a crock to be punished for good credit. MERRY CHRISTMAS.
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
16 Dec 09
get a credit card and buy something with the credit card then pay it off. this is one way you can build your credit.
but i never had heard of insurance is base on your credit..hummm they are suppose to do it by your driving record.
are you in the states and what insurance company are you using ?
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@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
16 Dec 09
that crazy.. im in maryland and i never heard of that law, guess when i go and pay my bill i'll have to ask them.
but yeah just get a credit card like visa and go and buy little things to help you to build up your credit.
but ive been to tenn a few times, and i just loved it down there. i know i went to knoxville and nashville as well and a few other places i dont remember the names.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Dec 09
It was a law that was passed this year. I am in Tennessee and I am with Farmer's Bureau. They are a great insurance company but they are cashing in on the new law. I'm pretty sure the law was made federal so if you know anyone with credit issues they check their premiums.
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@anniefannie (1737)
• United States
16 Dec 09
i didn't know your insurance went up for your credit score my went up 20.00 this time first time and i have good credit.you need to buy something on credit is the only way i know to raise your credit score.i knew someone could not buy a car because he had always paid in cash.hope you have a very Merry Chrismas.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Dec 09
I have heard that bad credit is worse than no credit. I was really just trying to stay debt free so I wouldn't have to struggle so but it looks like that's the way of the land..lol..I'll have to look into a few things I guess. Thanks for the input. May want to see if that's why they raised on you. It's based on your credit score. I think it was even a federal law that passed. Take care.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Dec 09
You always need credit and even though you might be against borrowing or owing money, sometimes it is necessary. When I first wanted credit, what I did was to buy something on the monthly, 60 day, 90 day and pay it off before the interest was due. When I first got a store card, I would buy something on it and pay it off as soon as I got the statement. What you have to do is to make sure that each purchase is more then the previous and make sure that they are paid off before the interest is put on or as soon as you get the statement.
You can also get a Visa or Mastercard but if you have no credit you will get secured credit, but if they see that you have always paid your bills on time, you will get a regular one with no annual fee.
The insurance company will then probably lower your fees.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Dec 09
You can probably get one through your bank. iT WILL give you enough credit to equal what you have in your bank account. It would be a good idea, but unfortunately you may have to pay an annual fee. But after a while, you could upgrade it to a regular credit card if you pay off each month.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
17 Dec 09
I have heard of a secured credit card. Wonder if I could just get one through my bank or if I would have to go directly through the company? I will have to see how that works. Maybe the loan officer at the bank can help me out with that. Thanks for responding.
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@callarse1 (4783)
• United States
21 Dec 09
Let's start with the credit game . First, might as well get your credit reports. Start out with the free government website: http://www.annualcreditreport.com. Is there anything on your credit report? Is it blank? Is there anything in collections/negative?
If it's totally blank (which I am thinking it is), it's time to apply for credit. Start out with your local credit union. How about your insurance company? Do they have a bank where you can start to get a credit card? If you're able to, get a loan. I know it sounds real stupid, but you could still do it. Here's what you could do: get a car loan and pay it off in 2 or 3 payments. Get a bank loan and pay it off immediately in one payment.
However you do want to show you actually have credit history which you could do with a credit card. Don't apply for too much credit. Applying for too much could make the situation worse. Apply for 2 or 3 accounts. What you will do is pay the bill in full before the due date (if you have the account set up where you can bank online, you could even pay it off in full before you get the bill!) Keep doing that for many years and then you will establish your credit.
Here are some good websites:
www.myfico.com (great website about credit score)
www.creditcards.com (great website for applying for credit cards).
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
21 Dec 09
Thanks for the input on this. I'll check out those websites and see what they offer. I have gotten my credit report and there isn't anything on there. I do have a low score..I guess that's from paying my bills or something but as far as credit references..nope. Take care and thanks.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
20 Dec 09
I would think getting a credit card and only using it for paying for gas may help, but I can't be quoted on it... I'm sure you know all the bad ways of LOWERING your score, lol.
@callarse1 (4783)
• United States
21 Dec 09
No, you are right. It wouldn't lower your credit score. It only lowers it if you apply for too much credit. It's considered two much if you apply for more than 2 or 3 new credit accounts every one--two years.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
28 Dec 09
I was not aware that checking your credit score would lower it. Now if other places check it say lenders, would it lower it that much more? and say you checked your score, and then someone else did 6 months later? would that look really bad?
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
20 Dec 09
That's a thought. Yes..I can imagine the things that could lower a score. I was surprised to find out that just someone checking your credit can lower your score each time. I found that out a couple of years back and so people should be very careful as to how many times they get their credit checked.
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@celticeagle (166761)
• Boise, Idaho
17 Dec 09
My gosh! Since i retired, went on benefits and more or less dropped out of the credit freeway I have heard some of the weirdest things that they are checking credit scores and credit in general for now days. For insurance? Interesting. I won't ask who your insurance is through or even for what but have you checked elsewhere? I have no idea how to raise your credit score. Most of the things I have heard are alittle weird anyway. I would check elsewhere. My insurance company sure doesn't check and if it did I would be checking elsewhere.
@celticeagle (166761)
• Boise, Idaho
17 Dec 09
I just had a thought (OUCH!!). Why don't you check around and see what places do show up on your credit and then buy something where you have to pay it in payments and have it show that you payed each payment on time, etc. I just can't believe they can have that kind of rule over your life and I would check for other insurance.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
17 Dec 09
Hi celticeagle...the letter they sent was that by the new law passed premiums could be based on the credit score of the customer. I actually would pay a hunk of money more if I changed companies because they are very reputable and elite here. Farmers Bureau is who it is through. I have insurance on my house and car there. They didn't raise it a lot but it was raised nonetheless. Anyway..I'll have to check out a few options. The bank suggested buying a car but that can be a 3-5 year committment. Take care and thanks.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
16 Dec 09
The only thing I can suggest is getting some credit! Absurd as it sounds, it is the only way to build credit! You could apply for a credit card and use it pay bills like I do and pay the balance every month so you are not charged any interest. It is really great how you have organised yourself to be completely debt free, I think that is to be commended!
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Dec 09
Well...it has been a lot of doing without until I can get it kind of struggle but to be honest it really has bit me in the rear. I can't get anything now until I have the cash. It's a double edged sword. I like being indepenant and not owing or having to worry about debt but at the same time, there are things that are not accessable to me because of it. I can book things with my debit card because it works in the same manner as a Visa but there are things like this insurance bill that have been raised because of my "no credit" status. Can't win for losing sometimes..lol..Thanks for responding.
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@Hvaniday1 (550)
• Malaysia
19 Dec 09
That is a big difference between your country's and mine. It seems like very complicated kind of staff, why not you try to call her maybe she could help you. I nearly forget her name...let me see ah... there you go Suze Orman. I think she is the right person to talk to.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
17 Dec 09
How about instead of using cash in the store use only one credit card. Then when the bill comes in or even before the bill comes in pay it off with the cash you would have normally used. Everyone needs to have at least one credit card and use it from time to time to maintain good credit, unfortuntely. If you pay it within the month then you won't get finance charges.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
17 Dec 09
I understand about not wanting a credit card but I really think that is the only way you are going to get to build your credit. I no I can't stand them either. However, if you only use one CC and instead of paying upfront cash use the card then pay it with the money you were going to use in the first place. That way your credit card will always be empty and paid on time. You would think paying everything with cash and not having credit debt would give you good credit. Its just not fair as far as I'm concerned. Again good luck to you.
@sahsports4883 (441)
• United States
16 Dec 09
I don't know how you can raise it, I know many people have a credit card to try and better their credit score. I made the mistake of having too many and now I'm in major debt and I can't get out of it and to top it off I'm unemployed. I know a lot of jobs check now to see how your credit is and if you have any which sucks for people like me. I wouldn't be in the situation I'm in if I had had enough money to pay bills and buy food in the past, sometimes you can never win.
You would think they would look for people who don't have debt and don't really have credit and think of them as good but they don't work that way. They hate selling people in a lot of debt and with bad credit scores but I suppose they forget about the people who have neither.
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@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Dec 09
It stinks for sure! I have had car insurance with them for over 5 years and I added a house two years ago. I bought my house through a legal contract and so that doesn't help me much either. I can put him down as a reference but it doesn't show up on a report. You really can't win for losing sometimes. Thanks for the input.
@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
17 Dec 09
If you don't need credit then don't get it. There are several ways to get it but it requires that you borrow to get it, what a catch 22 that is. Don't build your credit, build your cash reserve.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
17 Dec 09
That has been my plan all along but it's tough not having access to the same things that I would if I had good credit. I do agree that being debt free is best. I would have to get a high interest loan or a secured loan. Thanks for the input and take care.
@momtrying2makeit (3270)
• United States
17 Dec 09
Hi Jen I feel there are some good websites that could help you learn how to make your credit better. I think that for me I tend to know that my credit is bad and the first thing I have done is got all three of my credit reports for free so I can look over what is in my file to know where I stand. I did not order my credit score because there is a cost but you can order that from the credit reporting places as well. I will try to send you some info on a program about cleaning up your credit and so forth and maybe you can see if it is something worth your time. Nice topic to talk about and happy mylotting as well.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
17 Dec 09
Thank you very much. I don't think that people realize sometimes how important credit is becoming. I thought I was doing good by staying debt free but the truth is if they were to raise all of my bills a little based on the fact I have no credit..that could be very expensive too. I have my credit reports and although there is nothing really bad on there, I just don't have anything to say I am not a risk. Anyway..thanks again and take care.
@maezee (41988)
• United States
16 Dec 09
Do you have a contract cell phone? With a monthly bill? If so, and you pay it on time..That's a good way to get credit. Otherwise, you pretty much HAVE to open a credit card account up, even if you're not going to use it. Maybe put like $10 on it a month and pay back the balance in full. The only problem with credit cards.. is that they're illustrious. Once you have them, even if you only got one to "build your credit", they become a necessity, and you start using it. I originally got my first credit card about 3 months after I turned 18! And wound up in $1,300 worth of debt (up to my limit) after about 3 months of spending like crazy on nothing in particular. You just have to be careful. A big part of having good credit is actually having a credit card, though, and making monthly payments, keeping your balance low (or zero - even better), and just in general showing the credit bureau that you're responsible with your bills.