Is the government butting too far into our business?
By TheRealDawn
@dawnald (85146)
Shingle Springs, California
December 20, 2009 6:30pm CST
There was a letter to the editor in today's newspaper about a story that was in the paper a couple of days ago. I can't find the article online, but here is a summary:
A family in the Sacramento area decided to allow a homeless family with a camper to live on their vacant lot. The lot has electricity and water hooked up. They screened several homeless families from the area and chose one. Sadly, the family was living on the lot only a couple of days when the authorities stepped in and said that the lot wasn't zoned for camping. The homeless family was forced to go elsewhere.
What do you think of this?
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34 responses
@dmrone (746)
• United States
21 Dec 09
Hi, dawnald! I think this is a shame. I understand that laws have to be obeyed, but with people having such a hard time these days i think they could have been more lenient. The people who offered to let these people with the camper stay on their lot were trying to help. It is hard to find people willing to help others these days. I commend the people who were trying to help, and think the government should be ashamed of themselves. They should have left these people alone, you never know it may have helped them enough that they could get on their feet.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Dec 09
Yeah, I know they were just obeying the letter of the law, but I wish there had been some way to make an exception.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
21 Dec 09
maybe the government should buy free mobile homes to these homeless people insted of just throwing them out to nowhere. i wonder what happened to that family. i hope they are alright now.
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@LovingLife139 (1504)
• United States
21 Dec 09
The government always seems to be butting in where they don't belong. Where are our personal freedoms? Our next door neighbor currently has his grown son staying in a little camper out back. It makes the backyard look junky but I honestly don't mind. If the guy needs a place to stay, it should be up to the property owner. Just as in this case. The people were doing a good deed by opening their lot to someone who needed a hook up to resources. What in the world was that hurting anyone? And it was their lot. They pay taxes on it, probably too much in taxes, yet they cannot do what they wish on it?
Since my dad and I work in real estate we've gotten used to dealing with the crap zoning laws work up. It's honestly a bunch of bull...basically, zoning laws seem to be made up only to irk people, to remind people that you cannot do anything you want with property you rightfully own. It's sad to see the authorities get involved in a situation that would only bring another family's money to the town's businesses and get a family off the street. Ugh, that's irritating.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
21 Dec 09
If that had happened over here there would have been a huge uproar and they would then have had to find them permanent accomodation.
Right before Christmas too - so sad
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Dec 09
There was a bit of an uproar, but I don't think it was loud enough...
@cobrateacher (8432)
• United States
21 Dec 09
Hi, Dawnald!
I think it's about time the laws in this country catch up with the realities we live with. Zoning is basically for economic purposes, and the economy is destroying families. Those families need to be permitted to get by as well as they can until they can get back on their feet, without intervention by the government! I wanted to turn my garage into an apartment for someone in need, and the zoning people stopped it. I think that's horrible, and I'm fighting it!
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
21 Dec 09
I absolutely think the govt. interferes way to much in our personal lives. I see more and more examples of this all the time, and some are purely unconstitutional.
They would do well to tend better to their own business, as things are such a bloody mess! The same goes for "big business."
The so-called little people are the backbone they are always trying to break, and I know many, myself included, who are tired of it.
Karen
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Dec 09
They weren't poor originally, but the lost their jobs and couldn't get another one.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
21 Dec 09
hello dawn,
it would have worked if that situation happens in my country. but US is not a third world. you got laws and systems that are strictly made by your law makers and those authorities simply wanted some thing order and not turn the american dream house into a squatter house.no offense but i heard other similar cases too which are quite awful
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Dec 09
If the government had an alternate place for these people to go, that would be one thing, but just get out, goodbye, and that's the end of it? that sucks...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Dec 09
I guess if somebody calls and complains, the authorities have to enforce the law. But one trailer on a quarter acre lot, come on. Who were they hurting?
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
26 Dec 09
There used to be a joke that said, "A lot of laws were established because the government just couldn't bear the idea that someone, somewhere, might actually be having fun!"
Funny as that may seem, at present the "joke" would say, "A lot of laws were established because the government just couldn't bear the idea that someone, somewhere, might actually be finding a way to survive without their 'help!'"
Hmmm...why don't I hear any laughter? (Hello? ::tap! tap!:: Is this mike on?)
Maggiepie
MERRY CHRISTMAS! FELIZ NAVIDAD! BLESSED NATIVITY!
@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
21 Dec 09
Dawn, you say the lot had water and electricity hooked up, but what about sewerage? I can see that as a lawful objection if there was not a proper sewerage connection.
If it was merely a zoning law infringement, that is very sad, and I guess it would only happen if neighbours complained.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
25 Dec 09
I imagine the family on whose lot they were parked would probably allow them to use the bathroom. I mean, obviously they trusted them quite a bit.
Just a thought.
Maggiepie
MERRY CHRISTMAS! FELIZ NAVIDAD! BLESSED NATIVITY!
@ElicBxn (63594)
• United States
21 Dec 09
doesn't that sound like typical government BS!
I've sometimes wondered about letting someone camp in my back yard - but haven't met anyone I would want to do that... Guess they'd be all up our butts for letting our kids camp out in a tent in the yard now a days!
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
25 Dec 09
In a word: yes. This government uber alles is the pits. It's not new, but it is the worst I've ever seen it. Sad. We used to be the freest country in the history of the world. And now, the morons in D.C. claim they are soooo concerned about the poor & homeless. Phah. Liars!
Maggiepie
MERRY CHRISTMAS! FELIZ NAVIDAD! BLESSED NATIVITY!
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
30 Dec 09
Exactly!
Well, the rest of us must, as always, step up to fill in the gaps caused by the government. If only they'd just get out of the way & stop making things so much harder! Grrrr!
Maggiepie
MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR! ^..^
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@tamarafireheart (15384)
•
21 Dec 09
Hi Dawnald,
The goverment is always trying to make so hard for the people even the homeless, all the goverment is interseted in is money, I supposed they didn't like the udea of this homeless people using the water for free, and yes, the the goverment is butting in too much into our business.
Tamara
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Dec 09
The people who own the lot are paying for the water, far as I know.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
21 Dec 09
Hey dawn~ I think that this is totally unfair! If the family
whose property it was allowed them to live there then what does
the government care? If the family doesn't mind them using their
water and electricity then what the hell does that have to do
with the government! And yes, I do think that the government
is butting too far into our business and don't get me started!
What they are doing to me with my Disability and making ME
pay for Medicaid is totally absurd and when I try to fight the
system and explain that it is redundant they agree, but tell
me I still have to pay! So I am Disabled, paying for Medicaid,
told that I can't see my OWN doctors since they won't take
straight Medicaid and then TOLD that I should GET A JOB! Now
then what was the reason they granted me Disability in the first
place? Duh?
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@yugasini (12893)
• Secunderabad, India
21 Dec 09
hi downald,
really it is good thing i appreciate that family to offer their vacant place to poor and home less people,we find people like this once in blue moon,no body is willing to offer vacant place to the poor and needy,it is a good to their part,but govt. forced to vacate them from that land,i hope that they will get the shelter soon,have a nice day
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@mjcole82 (40)
• United States
22 Dec 09
The government has always had a habit of getting into our business. Under Bush the Patriot act was passed allowing for much more looser protections of American civil rights. The government can wiretap your phone without a warrant so long as they feel you are "a threat to national security" - a vague term that can be twisted to fit almost any activity that challenges the government legitimately under the First Amendment.
So yes ABSOLUTELY does the government but too far into our business, but i don't see this changing anytime soon. Do you?
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@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
21 Dec 09
pft..that sounds like my area.
with the economy,a rather large community of homeless was popping up
from people of foreclosed homes-they told them they had to "move on".
move on to where?
they act like people unfortunate enough to be homeless should just disappear rather than help them.
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@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
23 Dec 09
i mean,they have camping grounds on the other side by the woods.
they wouldn't be hurting anybody there.toilets and everything.
it would at least give them time to maybe find new employment.
@Farside604 (870)
• Canada
22 Dec 09
Id really like to talk to he bureaucrat who came up with that zoning law that may have had some meaning but probably does not apply here.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
21 Dec 09
This is where I get mad! If the camper has adequate electricity source and water disposal then it is not a health risk to anyone in the area so what is the big deal? Ti is causing the family that had to leave so much unnecessary stress and just imagine their disappointment? They must have felt so very happy that they had somewhere decent to stay. What relief the parents must have experienced only to have it snatched away from them.The action of the "authorities" is disgustingI wish that I could send them a hundred thousand fleas!!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Dec 09
Or perhaps we should have the Wizard send them a heart?
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Yes, I wish Santa would put a coal in all their stockings this year! I wish all such bureaucrats had to live as their victims do--especially in such a cold winter as this! It snowed in Dallas yesterday!!!
Maggiepie
MERRY CHRISTMAS! FELIZ NAVIDAD! BLESSED NATIVITY!
@hoodwinks (157)
• United States
21 Dec 09
that is sad to hear, I can't believe to be hearing this. I can't believe that the government would even do that to them. that man or person who was willing to do that has such a black heart. while he went home to nice big comfortable places while they have to be on the street. trailer or not that on the streets. sad that our country is dealing with that 3rd world country's are dealing with. but its ok that we have people who are on the senate seats committing crimes right under our noises.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
26 Dec 09
DAWNALD--BRILLIANT idea! ^5!
Maggiepie
MERRY CHRISTMAS! FELIZ NAVIDAD! BLESSED NATIVITY!
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Dec 09
Sorry but in this case, the law is an a**...
@trios2009 (47)
• United States
21 Dec 09
I think that if someone is reaching out to help a homeless family, then the government should allow them to do so if they wish! Authorities complain about the homeless sleeping in stairwells, on sidewalks, and in parks, but they don't do anything to help the situation. Most of the time, these people can't go to a shelter because the shelters are already overcrowded and are turning people away. If a member of the government had ever been homeless, or had someone close to them who had, then they wouldn't be doing this. The family owned the lot - they should be able to do with it whatever they choose as long as its legal.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Dec 09
Well technically camping isn't "legal", but I still think they should have allowed it.
@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Yes, we are a nation of laws, but the law is supposed to be "tempered with mercy!" I hope these bureaucrats are raked over the media coals!
Maggiepie
MERRY CHRISTMAS! FELIZ NAVIDAD! BLESSED NATIVITY!