Do you see anything good about the health care bill? I really want to know.

I don't know because I haven't seen the latest incarnation of it. Is it online to read yet? Right off the top, I'll bet 1/3rd of it is nothing but "christmas presents" for senators that voted for it. I can't understand the mentality of thinking that just doing something, anything, for the aske of doing it, even if it's bad..is better than not doing anything at all. Have we really gotten that stupid and complacent as a voting populace?

I keep hearing senators say, "This is what the people want", and I wonder which people. No one has asked me. I sent Senator Grassley an email regarding the fact that I have no insurance any longer and could really use some help. He never responded, but he's been totally adamant that the people in our state don't want reformed health care. I makes me sick that they sold out to several states just to buy their votes, and they've watered the bill down so much that I can't imagine who it will help. They talk about forcing lower income people to buy health insurance and then giving them a tax credit to help them pay for it. Unfortunately, low income households don't pay taxes in the first place, so there's no way they could get a credit. If they could afford health care, they'd have it already. This whole mess is a joke that they're trying to shove through Congress just so they can go home for Christmas.

What you see as a positive I see as a negative and I have pre-existing conditions. It will increase premiums even more and I will not buy rationed government healthcare so I will be stuck with the higher cost. Obama's approval rating is now seriously tanking according to the always reliable Rasmussen reports because of this. The people don't want it... I won't be able to afford this thing because I know that I will be making too much according to the government to qualify for anything paid by my tax dollars and will have to purchase healthcare when I don't want to. Of course I got to read this thing all over again when the final is out but I'm sure it's still a piece of trash and yes all those people will have healthcare, because they will be forced to buy it... it's unconstitutional.

well i am in canada where we have that sort of health care already. there are definite good points to it (such as everyone being able to get healthcare) and bad points (such as wait times to get into see specialists etc.) for my family personaly, it is a good thing because we have no health insurance, my hubby is not working and i only work part time - not enough hours to get health care with my company, plus, even when he was working, the boss didnt think health care was necessary!

"The latest poll says only 42% of people want this." Does that mean 58% don't want it? So much for the majority. Like other give away programs, after they're in, it's impossible to get rid of them.

i didn't see. hope you get the info with someone soon

Has anyone even read the whole bill? The people voting on it haven't yet had a chance to review the whole thing but they are pushing it forward just for the sake of getting it done. I think the Democrats just want to do this because they will lose the Senate in a couple years and the Presidency when Obama's first term is up. It seems foolish to me. Sure it sounds good, but when the American people realize how hurtful it actually is to our country, it will be too late.

There's far too much that is wrong and detrimental to fit into a response. It would take a page, maybe two pages, maybe 2000 pages since every page of the health care bill is a mistake for America. Suffice it to say that if a bill was good, productive and beneficial for America it would seem unnecessary to have to lie, bribe and cheat to get it passed. The political shenanigans and the subversion of not only the will of the people but the law and the rules of the Senate are enough to prove that this bill should never pass. I am disgusted beyond words.

The U.S government doesn't care what the people want.I thought the idea was to vote in the people that would carry out the peoples wishes.Instead,it seems to be about what the governmant wants.Most of what they decide for the people,doesn't affect them. Our health care system could do with some tweaking,but an overhall seems way too drastic.Of course,Obama doesn't care what is best for the people.In fact,I can't figure out what he does care about,other than hisself.

This seriously, honestly, literally scares me. I'm not even 30 yet, and thinking that my country could be something wholly different, where my money isn't my money and "freedom's" just another word because government makes you choose (sorry, Kris), is extremely frightening. Maybe other countries can truly pull it off. Maybe having watered-down care and cradle-to-grave entitlements does work in some other places. But America is different. 300+ million and more illegals than some of these supposed socially just countries have citizens; more under/unemployed than some have citizens, too. An insanely large government, corrupt from the smallest town council seat to the highest office in the nation. An already "social" idea (sorta) in Medicare that's seriously lacking in efficiency due to government's ineptitude. And if that's not enough to make anyone want to put the brakes on any major "change" and take baby steps to knock off the dirt before you shampoo the rug (or, in progresive land, just make us pay for a replacement altogther), you then see how they conduct business to get things passed. Against the majority's will; secret rooms where favors--wink, wink--are done; intimidation; outright lies and slander; dangerous tactics of painting people as villains in the media SOLELY so people despise opposition; cutting off debate entirely; cooking the numbers; misleading the public in so many ways, none the least of which is ramming the idea of IMMEDIATE change down our throats that, oh, by the way, won't take effect for years; and then the bill itself, which is undoubtedly laced with enough pork to feed the Memphis in May crowd. It's all done for the sake of being done -- just so they can say they did it. And how insane is that? "Hey, at least we did something!" They don't even pretend anymore that it's well intentioned. If it's not obvious to everyone that government simply wants to be in control, I suggest they pull their head from their rear end and simply use basic common sense to see that, so long as these types of politicians have been in power, they have NEVER done anything outside of their own best interest. Everything they've been in control of has fallen apart rapidly, and it's the rest of us bailing them out. Even on the 00000.1% chance that Obama is slightly different, he's far from the only one trying to ram things down our throats. And moreover, he's only the spokesperson for social justice. It's the same cast of characters--career politicians who are woefully inept criminals--writing this stuff and strong-arming its passing. I don't know what good will come from this bill. I really don't believe it's a step in the right direction for anyone but government. So a few more million people will receive coverage and the criteria of coverage (preexisting, etc) will change. Okay. If someone tells me that THIS was the only way to make that happen, they'll be laughed at and called a moron. And I'm the nicest dude in the myLot political section, but someone would have to be a loon to think this cruddy government and their shoddy, bussiness-as-usual tactics are the only way to get things done. Some act like America can't exist without government directing our lives. Rant over. I simply don't see politicians doing right by the people. They're interested in power. They want control. And the long con is evident: creating dependents gives them permanent control.