The responders on the 1st page of a discussion get all the attention.
By sagnik42
@sagnik42 (3592)
India
January 5, 2010 10:19pm CST
Isn't it true?
I find most discussions have long first pages, with all the comments and re-comments. But just once you go to the second page of the responses, you hardly find any discussion there. There are just responses. Hardly any comments from others. Maybe the member who started the discussion comments back, but that is it. No more.
We are also supposed to go through all the responses before posting our own. We hardly do that. I only go through the first page or maximum the second page and then respond.
It is so unfair on the others who respond a little late, don't you think?
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
6 Jan 10
Hi sagnik, as a responder if I see that a discussion opener has commented well on the first page of responses and then reverts to a brief thank you after that then I don't tend to respond to them again.
I give equal attention to all my responses but usually find a few stragglers towards the end who come in with half a line or irrelevance which isn't worth a comment. More interaction takes place on the page which has a few friends on who comment back and forth more, it doesn't mean it happens to be on page one. If the responder is the chatty type it can happen anywhere.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
6 Jan 10
I rarely drop into someones box if I don't know them but I will if I do, one doesn't know how they may respond if not known. Some people just bang off a quick response and others like a bit of interaction. You don't see much of that though on those where the opener never gets back to anyone though. I always like to see you popping in Purple.
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
6 Jan 10
I read and respond to everyone in my own discussions just the same as you do, Thea. When I am reading and responding to other people's discussions, I try to read every response and comment on the ones where I feel that I can add something to the response. I admit, though, that I do look for certain users responses and am more quick to "jump in" to their response box when I see one, such as yourself, because I know that they read and respond to other people's comments in their response box. Some members do not follow up on comments to their responses, even when the original poster of the discussion or other members do respond, and I think that is why there is more activity on certain pages, but you are right that it is not always the first page of the discussion.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
6 Jan 10
I don't really stop to think about whether or not the person will think that I am "butting in". Instead, I say my piece and wait to see if and how the person responds. Then, I will know better in the future whether or not to bother to take the time to respond to them. You are right, though, that discussions where the original poster responds usually are more active than other ones. I am glad that you like to see me "popping in", because you are one of the ones that I look forward to interacting with in discussions.
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@sunnycool (12714)
• India
6 Jan 10
The first pages are often filled with many comments coz we have started them few minutes back and then we would be able place spontaneous comments with our responders and more often we come accross friends who have a funny chat which is in no way related to the discussion and its obvious that some barge inbetween and try to add some humour.If you had started a hot topic then you would get huge responses in no time else you dont get all those within the less time you spend in here right.when we fall asleep then the day begins for some others and the same happens when you add a comment at their boxes they would be sleeping so you get to see that difference.but i never faced any diffieculty while interacting with some in here who make an comment ten hours after i have added one comment and that discussion is almost one week old but we still continue to add though.great day.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
6 Jan 10
As Sunny has said (and I can definitely attest to this), there are many people that can hold very nice interactions on any page of a discussion, and these interactions can span the course of days or even weeks sometimes due to the time differences between users. In fact, there have been numerous discussions where Sunny and I (and other members on here) have commented back and forth to each other quite a bit, and these responses have been on page four, five or six of a discussion, although admittedly my discussions never get that many responses.
@sunnycool (12714)
• India
6 Jan 10
you're right PA we never interacted in your discussion and its weird that i never came accross any of your discussions in my friends started tab---is it that you come up with very few or the tab is skipping your discussion from my view.next time around i dont miss your discussion so you dont have to be so sad and infact waiting for your discussion so i can post my first response.
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
6 Jan 10
Sunny, you have responded to my discussions, but I do not start very many of them, so that is probably why you do not remember responding to them. I like to be able to have time to interact with people when they comment on my discussions, so I try not to start one unless I have enough time to respond, which I have not done lately. I do think that it is time to start another one, though, so hopefully you will be seeing me soon on your "friends started" tab.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
6 Jan 10
Hi sagnik! I think that you need to speak for yourself! I
go through all the pages in the discussions that I start and
try to respond to as many as I can! I don't stop at the first
page ever and I've had some really long discussions! I have
seen alot of people who start out strong on the first page
and stop! But, that really isn't fair! I have had discussions
that went on for many pages and I still try to comment until
the end, even if it takes awhile! It isn't fair to the others
that respond! Sometimes I post a discussion and someone will
respond a month later or even months later and I still will
respond to them!
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@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
I also do that. I get back to all the responses on my discussions, except for the one liners. Those are hard to comment to. But other than that, I do respond to each and every one of them.
I think that you need to speak for yourself!
Were you referring to me or to the members in general? Did not understand that. Sorry.
@kiran8 (15348)
• Mangalore, India
6 Jan 10
Hi sagink, what you say is true, especially so when the discussion has many responses. It becomes difficult for the one who started the discussion to go through all the responses and respond to them...It has happened to me when I have had more than 100 responses and all I did was respond to them with notime left for taking part in others discussions. But at the same time I dont mind it because I like to read all the responses and also respond to them. But while it is a discussion I am answering I look a t a few responses especially the last ones and then give my own opinion...All the best and have a great evening..
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@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
Hi kiran, I have not recieved 100 responses in any of the discussions I have started. The highest I have gone to is 82, as of now. It is hard work getting back to so many responses. But I also get back to them. It can take a few days, but eventually I get to them.
@voldrox (7191)
• India
6 Jan 10
hi sagnik,
I am back after some gap hehe .. well you are right, it is true that the first page responders do get a little more attention than others, how ever there are some catchy and better ones on the other pages but i guess sometimes we do get a little lazy to check out mhm .. have a nice day sagnik.
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@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
6 Jan 10
Welcome back voldrox. I was also away from mylot for a while.
That is my point. There are so many good responses in the other pages, but we are too lazy to go through them. It is unfair to those who have responded late.
I know it takes a lot of time to go through them all and often it is boring. But, still I think users should go through at least the first 2-3 pages.
@louierrific24 (1114)
• Philippines
6 Jan 10
So does that mean that this post of mine won't get any attention.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
7 Jan 10
I couldn't agree with you more, Sagnik42. One line comments are fine on occasion, especially when they something of substance or give a person something to respond to, but most of the one-liners do not give you anything to work with. Then again, there are those of us that can just talk for days about nothing - but I digress.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Jan 10
hi sagnik42 I do not think its particularly unfair as we all
do things our own way, and theres not really any right or wrong
way to respond as long as we stick to the rules and are kind and civil even it we do not agree with others ideas. But to be really fair I myself will got to the last page to make my response then come back to interesting comments and responses and add my own comment if I desire to do so. Maybe sagnik by reading this discussion you might spur others to go to the last pages to respond. if you think it unfair do what I do I always go to the last response to make my first response then go from there.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
6 Jan 10
Hello Hatley, sometimes with 10 pages of responses that is a hard thing to do.
But I try my best to go through the responses. But sometimes it is not possible and a touch boring as well.
Yes, I do hope others read more responses. Some members just keep on responding without reading a single thing. That is not good.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
hi sandra,
I also do something similar. It is really not possible to go through all the responses in a discussion. But I try my best. I think people should try. That is all we can ask for. Nice to know some DO try to go through the responses. Have a nice day.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
6 Jan 10
Hello, Hatley. That's a different way of doing it. I check all my responses and comment on most of them, and if I'm on a later page on a discussion, I at least look at the responses on that page, so I think I do my best.
@bjcyrix (6901)
• Philippines
6 Jan 10
Yeah, that kind of thing does happen. I guess the discussion creator might have a limited number of time when they started the discussion that's why the first batch of responders get the greatest attention. It does also help that the first responders are on the first page itself. Those are the first ones to be exposed to the readers.
Though reading every response before responding is the ideal way, it would be impractical. Most especially when there were already more than 3 pages of responses. With those that have 2 pages at the most, then that would be manageable but more than that, well, the person who was planning on responding to a lot of discussion on that day might not get to post any because he/she was reading every response on all the pages on a discussion that had more than 50 responses.
It might seem unfair but I think that even the most late response will still get a lot of comments if it was well thought.^_^
@bjcyrix (6901)
• Philippines
17 Jan 10
Yeah that is true. When one has time and has a great interest in what others has to say they would read every response even if it is more than 10 pages of responses. Those with the intention of earning more wouldnt really bother to read since it does cut the time that they have for just posting and posting.
We cannot really know the intentions of a member, only they know this and it is in their discretion if they have good intentions or selfish ones.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
Hi again, BJ. Time is a big factor in this. I know many members who like to read other people's responses but cannot do that because they cannot afford that much time. I have time and I read.
There are also many who has the time but just want to post and earn more. They do not want to read what other people has to say and that is wrong. Even if they read, they do not go any more than the first page. That is not how it should be.
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@thezone (9394)
• Ireland
7 Jan 10
Hi sagnik42,
Thanks for responding back to me, I was feeling a bit lonely here on the third page, now I feel loved
But I do agree with what you say the first page of some discussion do tend to get all the attention. I guess it depends on who replies first and such.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
8 Jan 10
I find most of the activity on the first page. But I hope the trend changes. It will be a real plus for the whole mylot community.
You should not feel lonely. There are so many people who are dying to talk to others. You just need to know who they are. Have a nice day.
@coolcoder (2018)
• United States
7 Jan 10
This is why the moment I see that one of my discussions has gotten a response, I automatically go to reply to it. It's much, much easier to keep track of all of the replies from readers as well as my own. You don't end up getting bogged down in ten pages of replies that way.
@boogerman (1544)
• Philippines
6 Jan 10
Hello there! Well, it depends but that thing usually happens. There are also users who take time to read the entire discussion and interact with some of the responses as long as they can. Replying to the responses received was a responsibilty of the discussion starter but there are others who just post their own discussions but did not managed to reply to the responses. I noticed some discussions where only the first page was long and lots of comments but on the next pages, only responses are posted.
I posted my discussion several months ago and got around 50 responses, I find it hard to manage it by replying on all of the responses using a cell phone. That was the time before I got lost in here for almost a month due to some problems on connection. I finished replying around 3 pages and I was only focused on that topic for around 2 days before I become inactive. But it was hard sometimes especially when several responses have the same thought so I just replied by simply directing them to read my comments on a certain page so it will be easy unlike rephrasing my previous comments. I found out that some of my comments there got deleted, maybe because of being redundant so I just told them to read my previous posts when I notice that the response has similar thought with another.
Anyway, based from my experience, maybe the reason why there are some discussions where only the first page has more comments while the other pages have less is because it takes a hard time for a discussion starter to manage the topic.
Have a nice day!
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
Like mine in this case. You guys had to wait for more than a day to get comments on your responses. Sorry for the delay. Got a bit busy in my college. There is a picnic coming on and I am arranging a lot of things.
Getting back to topic, you are spot on once again. I can only acknowledge the truth of your words. There is hardly anything more I can comment. You said it all.
@boogerman (1544)
• Philippines
9 Jan 10
That's okay, I understand that we have other things to do aside from getting online so don't mind about the delay, at least you have done your part as a discussion starter to manage your topic. I am also in college so I know that you also have lots of things to do.
@boogerman (1544)
• Philippines
6 Jan 10
Another reason could be the time zones. We live in different places so we have different activity at a certain time. Maybe the discussion starter logged out and go to sleep so he/she did not noticed the other responses on the discussion, try to wait for several days and maybe the starter will manage the topic back. Late comments are still appreciated, at least they put their effort in replying to them, delay is considered.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
6 Jan 10
Hello, Sagnik. Personally, I read all my responses and comment on all but the one liners. I don't necessarily think it's unfair to late responders - it's just the way it pans out. Some discussions are very old, but a response from a new member or a new friend will bring it back to the top of the pile and engender more responses.
Good quality discussions will always get plenty of interaction. I do agree in a lot of cases, most of this happens on the first page. One thing I do to breathe new life into discussions is PM some of my friends when I find something really good, and they do the same with me. On a site this size with so many discussions, I feel there's little more anyone can do to even out the balance.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
Well, you too have carried on this discussion in my absence. That is pretty nice sight.
Sandra, I agree with you. It is not possible to find the time to read the responses of others in the discussions we respond. This site is getting pretty big. Have nice day.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
6 Jan 10
I respond back and forth to people on my discussions no matter what page their response falls on. Also, there are quite a few members on here that I am friends with, and we usually have a nice back and forth dialog no matter where our comments fall in a discussion. I am one of those people that "butts in" on other people's comments, usually (although admittedly not always) with a comment pertinent to the discussion topic. I have had a lot of fun interactions this way, even if the original poster on the discussion does not choose to respond to a single person in the discussion. Of course, it is generally more fun when the original poster of the discussion does join in.
Since my response falls on page two of your discussion, I guess we will test out your theory.
@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
6 Jan 10
Testing testing my dear. It is harder to remember where we've responded though if it's out of our own boxes as we don't get any alerts, whereas if its in ones box or withing ones own discussion its easier to keep on track. I don't think of it as butting in though, just dropping by for a nice chat.
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@thea09 (18305)
• Greece
6 Jan 10
That is the only thing I want from any changes, alerts for responses and name and shame on the neg button.
When I saw the pages and pages of requested changes it made me realise that if they implement just a few of them I'll have no way of knowing how to get round the site anymore, being a techniphobe. It will be back to salads only I presume.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
6 Jan 10
"dropping by for a nice chat" - I like that description.
It is difficult to keep track when you "land" in several response boxes, especially if it is not your own discussion. I do try to go back and check to see whether or not the person responded to me, though. That is one of the things that was requested in the GoAskAlice series of discussions - alerts for everybody that comments in a response box of a discussion when another comment is added, even if they are not the original responder. That will make it much easier to keep track of our comments and give us more opportunity for back and forth dialog, so I really hope that they implement it.
@jenfer (166)
• United States
6 Jan 10
Quite true!.. but I'm sure that two out of ten try their best to read others response, regardless if its on the first or last page. It's also depends on the topic, if I really like the discussion, I personally scan all the comments before posting mine. And sometimes, when I'm not in the mood to put any comments I just read discussions and comment threads.:)
@celticeagle (168126)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Jan 10
I would never get done if I read all the responses before I did mine.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
That is exactly what I do minx. But I do try to read the responses as much as I can. But sometimes I just do not like to read so much or do not have the time to read. Everybody has the same problems.
But there are some who just do not care to read any response and just respond and comment themselves and leave. That is not really fair.
@May2k8 (18389)
• Indonesia
6 Jan 10
I don't think so, if there is anything I can say then I will respond to all who are here. I always sliding the mouse and see if the discussions is over then the first page through open new pages until the last page if I get time to read all. Many people not always stay in their own discussion, possible they'll back.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
Hi May, it is nice to know you 'slide' through responses. That is a nice thing to do.
And Boogerman, you are absolutely right. We should help the new members. There is a lot of things they should know about this site and not every thing is written on the walls. We should help them excavate the hidden things in mylot.
@boogerman (1544)
• Philippines
6 Jan 10
That was true, there are some users who don't stay in their own discussion, some of them are new users. That was considered as they are still exploring this site. We can help by guiding them and telling them that they can also earn from posting comments. When they tried to manage their own discussions by replying to responses, they will find out that it is an easier way of earning unlike on posting different discussions and replying to different topics because attention will be focused on a particular subject so it is easy to share the views about the topic. The ideal purpose of a discussion is to exchange views with other users and interaction must take place to have a good discussion.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
7 Jan 10
I do think that it is unfair as well. However, I will also say that I am one of the people that is guilty of doing that as well. Now, on the discussions that I start I will chatter back and forth with people as long as they want to keep it going. That doesn't matter to me if they are on the first page or if they are on the eleventh page. I think that is an important part of what a conversation is all about.
Also, though, I will also say that I am not one of the people that is constantly giving additional comments to members above me that have commented on a discussion unless they have said something that is incredibly profound or incredibly funny.
@maria1081 (1251)
• Philippines
6 Jan 10
What if I ran out of ideas to say? There are times that our mind can be creative and spontaneous but there are also time that even if you wanted to response to all of them you go blankly.
And if you read carefully there are reponses to discussion that are similar but written differently, so how can you comment about that if you encountered the same idea but written in a different manner? Of course you'll just leave it.
@sagnik42 (3592)
• India
7 Jan 10
Of course, Maia, I will leave it.
I am not asking people to comment on every response. If they do it on their own discussion then that is upto them. But I hardly think anybody comments on every response of a discussion, which has infact been started by some one else.
I am just trying to draw people's attention that usually the most active page of a discussion is its first page. The pages after that are usually neglected. I think people should take a look at the other pages as well. That is all I am saying.