Discrimination as an Anti-theist

There is a lot of attitude coming from me, yes. When marriage is determined by 80% of the people that fear something that is harmless, it scares me a little, sorry. We DID elect bush, after all, and that turned out great...While democracy works, we had slaves...we didn't let women have rights...that was all majority vote. WW2 was focused around hitler wanting to kill jews, which is religious in nature. And I'm thinking back to known history as far as wars go. 2 out of 100 isn't 'Most wars'. And I'm not saying individual belief is bad, not when it's kept to yourself, or never stated as the 'One right thing'. Then it gets bad. Organized religion is what I'm against.

How were the things you pointed out erased, by voting. Hitlers plan was to take over all of Europe than set his eyes on America. Point out any war and I can guarantee you there is someone who has intentions of seizing power or making a profit regardless of whatever their supposed religious convictions are. Constantly I see people dumping on religion and say everything is religions fault. Was it religions fault that an atheist dictator took over China and butchered Millions of his own people and Tibetan people? What about Lenin? More importantly what about people taking responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming religion for everything wrong.

Religion has been used as a large tool, but without religion, would that have happened? If everyone believed the same thing and helped humanity out for itself, a lot of this wouldn't happen. A dictator rises to power when a people does not rise up to stop them. I'm not blaming religion for everything. Most religions are peaceful. The one centered around the bible tends to not be, to refine my point. Greed and power are the driving forces behind many things, but it is easily masked in religious discrimination. Without that mask, a lot of it could be prevented by the majority that realize it is still a wrong thing to do.

Hi again Dluther89, and please go easy on me tonight whereas I'm going to have to write a sermon outline for tomorrow . I'm glad I numbered what I did, and I'm glad you followed the numbering in reply. Thanks! First, I agree with your previous reply for #1 and 2. We're essentially on the same wavelength there. Now, back to #3-- Sure it's condemning. All such sin is precondemned by God in the Holy Bible. I'm not about to give preferential treatment to one group. God said homosexuality is wrong and so it is, just like stealing or lying is wrong. In regard to marriage, the Word of God indicates it is for one male and one female for life. In regard to blacks and whites getting married, that is indicated as ok in the Holy Bible. Those that are against it might want to check out what God said about Mose's Ethiopian wife --and I know Moses was not "white," but it was a crossing of the races. Btw, I don't consider myself white--just a putrid pink! In regard to what I do, I can refer to the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek quite readily. I am not an expert in those, but I know how to look up the most ancient texts per the NT, and the OT there is not much question over. I use the KJV and have our church on the NKJV and there is not great discrepancy from the original languages. 3a- the first part of your reply goes back to what I said in points 1 and 2. But, ???, what do you mean you can forgive righteousness and kindness? I don't understand that. Those are good things. I won't tell you I'm right but I will definitely tell you the Holy Bible is right. But, I do agree with you on organized religion--and think you meant like the denominational type. 4-Ah, but it leaves nothing out. The Holy Bible specifically states it condemns all unrighteousness. And there is two that testify as to what is right and wrong. The Holy Bible and the precious life of the Lord Christ. 5-And I am genuinely sorry to hear you have suffered -- probably from someone's painful stupidity. Will be praying for you though.

I mentioned the New Testament does preach forgiveness, which includes what jesus did. But when Bible is taken in its entirety, both old and new testaments, one cannot get a rosy picture of God. Since christians bleive in not only Jesus but also the OT God(Jesus is OT God incarnate), I cannot resist saying that this God is a vengeful one. 'Vengeance is mine' saith the Lord.

Hi Frederick42. Does your view that the Holy Bible presents God as a vengeful monster include what God did for us in mercy and love through Christ taking our sin and dying on the cross?

Yeah, I agree Frederick42, for a classic example would be Sodom and Gomorrah. God destroyed these cities for not listening to him. He saved one family. That family had children, which could lead us to believe that other families had children. There had to have been children in that city, unborn and newborn. Crazy stuff for a nice god.