Jeremiah 10:2-4
@theoriginalnifer (52)
January 9, 2010 4:20am CST
Last week I was talking to my friend over Facebook and he was saying how he was talking to some people and they were saying the in this part of the Bible it was saying that we shouldn't put Christmas up but when I looked it up on the internet I read that the verses was actually talking about idols made out of wood, etc that was carved. I was just wondering what your thoughts were and what you think it could possibly mean.
The verses say:
(Taken from the NIV)
This is what the Lord says:
'Do not learn the ways of the nations
or be terrified by signs in the sky
though the nations are terrified by them.
For the customs of the peoples are worthless;
they cut a tree out of the forest,
and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel.
They adorn it with silver and gold;
they fasten it with hammer and nails
so it will not totter.
2 responses
@liamsam (31)
• Philippines
17 Jan 10
Christmas has its origins from pagan rituals.
First of all, Christ was not born on the 25th of December as it was the middle of winter where no shepherds in their right mind will go out into the fields to tend their sheep (because it is cold and there is no food for the sheep- no grass for the land is covered in snow) and that Christ was born on a manger wrapped by his mother in cloths (Luke 2:12). How can a baby stand the winter cold in such condition?
What is being discussed in the verse you are referring is the foolishness of man who creates images from the trees making for themselves gods that cannot do anything. (also read Isaiah 44:13-17)
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
9 Jan 10
I think that the verse clearly refers to idols and images (and also to astrology and the meaning that some people attach to meteorological events).
Whether or not you consider a Christmas tree an 'image' or an 'idol' is up to you. If you go by ancient Jewish custom, there is certainly no Biblical precedent for it. Nor is there any precedent in the New Testament (in fact, the Birthday of Jesus is comething that was instituted MUCH later and it's almost certain that the date was fixed at 25th December because it seemed necessary to 'Christianise' certain pagan festivals).
Many of our 'Christian' customs at Christmas have been borrowed from much older ways of celebrating the Winter Solstice. I don't think that is wrong. It simply symbolises the fact that the Christmas message applies not just to Christians but is a symbol of 'Peace and Goodwill to All Men'. The Christmas tree itself is something that appears to have been invented by German Christians in the 16th Century though the custom of decorating houses with greenery at that time is much earlier, even though it never seems to have involved a whole tree. The custom of giving gifts at Christmas is also one that has grown up over time. It was not a part of the original festival.
By putting too much emphasis on the texts of the Old Testament, one is displaying a certain weakness and also a lack of understanding that Jesus, himself, plinly saw the nonsense of some of the minutiae of 'the Law' and that the apostle Paul expressly told us that much of 'the Law' of the Jews is not applicable to non-Jewish Christians.
We are who we are today and it is sometimes inappropriate to try to apply outmoded and irrelevant doctrine to our lives today. What we worship we do so with much more knowledge and understanding in our hearts than the writers of the Old Testament had 3000 years ago. A good and honest Christian does not look for the wrong and evil in things: he welcomes the good and looks to see that of God in all things that men do to celebrate. A wooden image covered in silver and gold is just that but, nevertheless, it may be a thing of beauty and it may be the way that someone chooses to express their love of and respect for the image they have of God.