Is there no God just because of all the Suffering????

I'm afraid you might just be surprised when heaven comes around. We all will know God's unconditional love that will heal all hurt but there will come a time when kiddies must go back to school. Some lessons can only be learned through free choices, consequences and adversity. Eternity isn't about having it made. It's about learning and growing. Thanks for all your comments.

Not sure what you mean. For it is written then we shall know even as we are known.

PS, any Scripture to support your statements? Thanks.

Yes, kiddies will always get a few bumps, bruises, and scraps while growing up. Without both sides of the coin, half a view would not mean much. Thanks for your great comments!!

Hey bird123!, The point is, the freedom is limited and so are the choices and unfortunately the fact is that more powerful person has more freedom and choices. We do not have the freedom to live or die....at least not at some point We can ignore the worst things in world, we can close eyes and ignore but cannot be open and free ever.... We are human beings with best working brain on the earth, we are not supposed to ignore whats happening in the world, instead we are suppose to understand why things go wrong and try and work on it. What choice does an orphan has, he/she is the result of someone else's mistake? Circumstances does not play any role in making choices, you are so perfect that you never make mistakes in your life, and that is because you go by the book of religion Are you Christian? did you have a choice to be born Christian, or a Muslim kid, did he have a choice to be born as muslim, or hindu or jain, did they have choices to make when they were born, as in to which religion they should be born with? What about the choices before birth, if there is a so called soul, what choice would a choice look out for? Give a 2 yr old kid a razor sharp knife to play with, if he hurts himself, was it because he made that choice? was that kid capable of making those choices without knowledge, No, he was suppose to grow up, learn, live through the circumstances he was born with. there is no fun, no lesson to be learnt, only one objective to be successful and leave all the sorrows behind him. Do you think the people who are suffering, are lab rats in your God's laboratory? they are setting examples or others? 1 mere lifetime? ... come on you've got to be kidding me.... just wait, for once think of what you are telling... Its not a chemical formula tested in lab that you are talking about, you sound delusional and living in the world created by priests, holy books and fantasies.... - You do not know it for a fact that there exists more than 1 lifetime.... - You have not seen heaven or hell... you haven't even been out of your country... - you are just so sure of everything that you have been told and taught that you hardly ever took time to understand it, you just accepted it the way it was told to you, you probably are a typical example of brain washed kid...

To really learn one must have total freedom of choice. If you are not free to choose, you will do the opposite of what you are forced to do as soon as you are free. With this freedom comes bad choices. The only reason people make bad choices is because they do not fully understand the ramifications of their choices. Everything to do in life will come back to you in time. This will show you exactly what your choices mean. This is not too punish but to teach. As you know people can make some pretty bad choices. Since what you do comes back to you, it can look pretty bad to someone looking on the sidelines. There are also great souls who volunteer to go through great adversity in order than someone else will see. You are making your judgement calls without the entire picture. The education of God's children spans much more than one mere lifetime. All the secrets of the universe take a long time to learn. For those of us who watch the lessons others go through, it is just a reminder of what the real answers are.The only real choice is unconditional love. After all, that is what we all want back.

We are spiritual beings in our true natures.We are all eternal. The parameters of our life are set by God to aid in the lessons we are to learn. The choices are ours after that. Yes, people are taught many things as a child but at some point a person is to become more than the sum of their teachings. They reach for discovery. I hold to no formal religion. So much that is said about God simply isn't true. If God really exists, then He can be found. Question is Do you want to find God? Perhaps you should start your own journey to discovery. God has the sum of all knowledge. He is very very smart. We are mere ants. That is why so few really understand God. Simple answers which you rely upon never tell the entire story. There is always more that one can not see. All the secrets of the universe stare you in the face. Can you see???? How long did man watch birds fly before he understood how to fly??

I never said one cannot learn through adversity. My point is that adversity is not NEEDED in order to learn and that we can learn MORE if there was no adversity.

The only thing that stops learning is a closed unwilling mind. A need to solve a problem will point the direction.Hurt until it is easier to change will guaranty the trip. Yes! Yes! People can learn and do without adversity but it's human nature not to do anything one doesn't have to do. So much would never be discovered unless there was a need. When you have it made, you just enjoy the ride.Don't you??

So what you are saying is that you have never learned anything through the adversity in your life. Are you sure???

Don't be so sure that God can't be seen. Look again. Widen your view. So much more can be discovered venturing out on your own. All the secrets of the universe stare us in the face. Most of which people do not even see. Thanks for all your comments!!

Thanks so much for your insight. Indeed being homeless surely has to be trying. It does make me wonder where all the religions were. No one to help you and yet they are building mansion churches. Pastors making unGodly amounts of money just for material gain. Man does have the capability to stop this. It doesn't matter whether you believe in God or not. You are touching alot of lives. Maybe sharing your experiences will allow others to see. You are indeed a special soul.

Yes, to really learn, grow or evolve must start with freedom. Things are thought out ahead. Our parameters shape our lessons but it is us making all those choices. We can be our own worse enemies. Thanks for your comments!!!!

If a person chooses to do something terrible, it's just because they clearly do not understand what they are doing. Everything you do will come back to you in time.This is to show us exactly what our choices mean. People's choices can cause suffering. Consequences when they return will be suffering. There is no other way to really learn except through experience.For those of us who must watch, it is a reminder of what the right choice really is.When everything we do returns to us in time, we will learn to love unconditionally. After all, we will realize that is what we all want back. Thanks for all your comments!!