You Can Bank On It
By p1kef1sh
@p1kef1sh (45681)
January 10, 2010 4:05am CST
According to the New York Times (online edition) today bankers working for Goldman Sachs are anticipating bonus payments of about $595,000 each for the past year! Other banks are paying in the same ball park. Apparently 2009 has been a good year for the banks. They have certainly seen huge injections of tax payers funds which have then been retained and not loaned out whilst millions lost their jobs, houses etc etc. Is it me? I'm thinking of starting a bank. You give me money. I don't give you anything and then I keep it all. Sounds a good deal to me.
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@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
10 Jan 10
I think your idea is a little simplistic, or that you have overlooked a few points. You start a bank. People give you their money. In return your charge them fees for keeping their money...which you also get to keep. Then the government gives you money hoping that you will loan it out to the people who's money you have...and a high interest rate which you get to keep. And then you only loan out a small portion of the money. Want to know where the rest of it goes? You get to keep that too.
You definitely have a good idea, I just didn't want you to overlook any details....
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@BarBaraPrz (47334)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
10 Jan 10
How nice of you to help p1ke out...
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
10 Jan 10
Could I please be your silent partner???
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@polachicago (18716)
• United States
10 Jan 10
No wonder we are losing jobs and we are screw big time....
It has to be stopped. I saw a video with homeless people in their 20's, while city workers search the town to help homeless people during extreme cold in Chicago.
I don't know if bank owners can look at the mirror every morning...
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
10 Jan 10
That's a pretty good summary! I feel as if I've been held up and robbed at gunpoint--it wasn't my choice, I was forced to give my money to those people and they won't give it back in any way, shape or form. We are now at the point where we were before the American revolution--taxation without representation and that created a war for independence. Now we are in the same spot only it's our own government who is denying us our God-given rights.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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10 Jan 10
I know a few bankers and they all blame other bankers of course. They just don't understand why the public has a sense of outrage about this. Then again, most bankers (I don't mean the people that man the counters in Lloyds etc) that I know are extremely selfish people out for as much money as they can make - for themselves.
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@BarBaraPrz (47334)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
10 Jan 10
Makes me almost wish I'd taken that teller job my aunt offered me when I was a teen...
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
10 Jan 10
hi pikey wow I missed that news. oh my g.bonus payments while people here are losing their homes over foreclosures, why not have all these bloated guys fork over those bonuses to the poor people so they can keep their homes. Yes lets both start a bank, we keep the money sounds like a real bonus. he he he. Our country dads need to do a lot of rethinking here, something is definitely backwards. We need a lot of new jobs, and a way to help people to get back into homes,not give bonuses to people who do not deserve one penny of it. My son has finally got several job leads which is heartening to me. there are still many many people here that are out of work, and a lot of homes standing empty from foreclosure.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
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10 Jan 10
That's such heartening news that you son has some leads Hatley. I really hope that something comes of it. I think that these bankers live on another planet. They seem to be immune from what's going on all around them and for which they are due a large share of the blame.
@sweetie1026 (1718)
• Philippines
10 Jan 10
I think that is a good deal, count me in, partner.
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@sweetie1026 (1718)
• Philippines
11 Jan 10
Thank you, P1key! So, when do we start, i can't wait........
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
11 Jan 10
Hey p1key! That is so not something that I want to hear! In fact,
if it is true I want to go after those employees and demand that
they share their bonuses with the poor people who they are
screwing who have invested in "good faith" and just about
"lost everything" the owned! What do you think those lazy, rich
cowards would do then? Run for their miserable, lying, money
sucking lives?
@grandpa_lash (5225)
• Australia
11 Jan 10
A week or so ago I started a discussion on which is the worst profession: bankers, lawyers, or politicians. I come down on the side of bankers. We sort of expect lawyers and politicians to be liars, but bankers still have some of their old glamour, although the last twenty years has pretty well dissipated that.
I got so disillusioned with the banks that I transferred all my financial business to a Building Society bank, totally member-owned, socially involved at local level, and offering near to the best interest rates in the game, simply because their search for profits is still regulated by ethics. Perhaps we can't all do that, other countries may not have this option, but if they do, jump at it.
Lash
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@artistry (4151)
• United States
11 Jan 10
...Hi there p1kefish, This represents the biggest con game in operation yet, in my opinion. They have got Bernie Madoff's scheme beaten by a good country mile. The fact is that the financial system in the US was on the brink of collapse, and may still go under. One-hundred and thirty-three of the banks have closed or been merged so far. That being said, we have printed money, given billions of dollars in rescue funds to the about to go under banks, and yet they come back the next year touting big profits which are the result of taxpayer money being poured into their coffers, and they give out millions in bonus money, for what. There were no profits, it was all money given to them, it is a crime. The Huffington Post and another organization have teamed up to organize a movement to get the American people to move their money from the big banks and put into credit unions and small community banks. The website for information is: www.iamanamericanus.com I am not sure that will help the situation, it may make it worse, but the American people are being taken to the cleaners. Such a disgrace. Take care.
@artistry (4151)
• United States
16 Jan 10
...Hi again, Yes Madoff was one man, and your other points are true. But your discussion focused on Goldman Sachs and the taxpayers money, which I think are US dollars so therefore my thoughts were on the US. Global certainly, but it started here in the US, with the selling of worthless mortgage securiites sold by "the banks" here, which effected many other banks in other countries which bought them. I follow the G-20 and am aware of the global signifance of the problem.
Take care.
@lynkshadow (299)
• Canada
11 Jan 10
Anger... rising. I work for a bank. I'm the little person who answers the phone and takes fraud claims. They keep me motivated with 2% raises followed by the threat of layoffs due to the economy. Yet, as per above like you say the so called big wigs are having there rectums stuffed with the dollar bills I work my a@# off daily to prevent from being stolen. Am I bitter? Duh. It's raining injustice and I can't afford an umbrella.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
12 Jan 10
They have not done anything to deserve such pay rises. The system is fixed so those at the top reward themselves with way too much money and then they have the nerve to tell the real workers who keep the bank functioning that they cannot afford to give them a decent pay rise.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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11 Jan 10
Like I said in another response it's not the cashiers etc that I am aiming this discussion at. You are suffering as much as anybody else. It's the people that do the billion dollar deals and then lose it that irritate me. I don't understand at all what they have done to make them worthy of such massive bonuses when my taxes have had to bail their mistakes out.
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@darleneL2010 (114)
• United States
12 Jan 10
That would make more sense actually....I think that the taxpayers could have made better use of the money than the banks did with our tax dollars...and rumor has it another big business bail out is in the works....This is insanity at best!
@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
12 Jan 10
It does sound like a good deal. there is something seriously wrong with such large bonuses, especially after a bail out. Are they being paid for losing money but keeping the banks afloat? Perhaps we should have let them crash and burn. After all that is what capitalism is all about, the roller coaster of market forces.
I think that executive salaries should be capped. It is obscene to pay such big bonuses and then tell their non executive workforce that they must take a pay cut or the bank goes broke. When will people do something about these lies. Capitalism depends on people starving at one end while the other end is too rich. Communism is the other extreme. Neither of them work but the people in power are too greedy and self interested to ever change things. I cannot see why it is so hard to find a balance.
Cap salaries at the top, make sure no one starves or is homeless. Poverty destroys people, greed destroys people. Why can we not find a healthy middle road which allows people to be rewarded for their sills and intelligence, but not over rewarded, and ensures that everyone has the basic necessities no matter what.
Insurance companies are like this as well. They take tons of money for premiums and then tries to avoid paying when the claims come in. It is all greed.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
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12 Jan 10
The problem is that the "middle way" is always going to be unpopular simply because it is fair. In fact it's even harder to regulate things that way as when does generosity become excess etc. I lump insurance companies in the same group as bankers as well. We have to have it, but why do they have to be so unscrupulous?
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@suzzy3 (8341)
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11 Jan 10
It is the same here ,it makes me so cross,the tax payer bails them out they should give nearly all of it back to the tax payer .they are just greedy ,nasty,selfish people they say they have worked hard.I know a few people who would like to work hard but cannot get a job.How dare they.
@greeneyedlady (1439)
• Netherlands
19 Jan 10
Yep! & Nope! P1key!
Yep! Sounds like the business to be in these days seeing as that is where all the money seems to be! Not actually In the bank but rather In the bankers pockets!
And Nope! It's not just You P1key! I think most of us can see which way the wind blows...Unfortunately it always seems to blow our hard earned cabbage right into the already full pockets of the wealthy instead of where it should be...in My pockets!! ;) XXXX