is "freedom of religion" same as "freedom from religion" ??
@sanjana_aslam (4187)
Malaysia
January 11, 2010 1:47am CST
.. this 2 things are totally different ~
a nation can declare it practices "freedom of religion" but when come to situations off "decisionn making" in certain assembly where the group of judges are of one religon, can a fair judgement be reached ??
i trully do not believe in such fairness happening in our current culture where. have seen in many situations where "converts" into "ruling religion" having more choices n better life than the brothers n sisters of the original faith ..
cheers
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@Bhurishrava (696)
• India
12 Jan 10
Religions are evil. They cause hatred. We be beware of these lest they strangle ou throats. India is the only country that does not discriminate. My mother country is the only nation that respect evrybody's relgion and treats every parson lik his broter.
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
11 Jan 10
Hi Sanjana dear,
I really could not understand what exactly you are trying to discuss here…usually I would have overlooked this discussion, but I’ve always enjoyed interacting with you…so are you trying to point out India’s pseudo-secularism or condoning conversion or what?
@sanjana_aslam (4187)
• Malaysia
11 Jan 10
hi sudip -
-if a country is ruled by muslims n majority people in the country r muslim - will a hindu get fair treatment
- similarly in a country of majority hindus n most atorative r hindus will a muslim/christian gat fair judgement
- in a christian country will another get fair treatment
next if i am in a muslim country n convert into that religion, i will get equivalent treatment as that off the other muslims in the country gets
that is my question !!
@sanjana_aslam (4187)
• Malaysia
12 Jan 10
i thought sudip has always been a white rose .. did u change while i was away ??
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
12 Jan 10
Hi Sanjana,
I have never ever lived in any other country so I really don’t know how it is to live as a Hindu in a Muslim or Christian country. All I have are memories of my childhood when my Dad used to work and stay in the Gulf and mom and I used to visit him sometimes during Durga Puja / Diwali festivals. That Gulf country had a smattering of Bengali Hindu population and I remember that Durga Puja was held there but in the confines of the local Bengali club and that also with great security. Other than that, my views are scarred and biased by stories of how my family was hounded out of Bangladesh by the Muslims there post 1947…so I really don’t know. My views about Muslim nations at least is that they offer few or nil freedom and equal rights to their minorities and it is a tactic by them to force people to convert…most Muslim nations are Islamic republics to its their religious duty too. On the other hand, even at the risk of sounding biased again, I must say that at least in India, Muslims have always been disproportionately pampered by our politicians thought it has not done the community (and the nation in the long run) any genuine good. Christians and other minorities are far more neglected yet they have done very good for themselves by their own effort and with help from their own organizations.
You say Hindus in India are authoritative! Have you ever delved into the Hindu psyche vis-à-vis the Muslims of our country? Forget about 1947 and partition…how do you think the Hindu feels when even today the Kashmiri Pandits are refugees in their own country just because no politician has the will power to tackle the Muslims head on? Why do you feel the Hindu should trust the Muslim when no Muslim organization has voiced any support for these unfortunate Hindus! When no Muslim organization supported the Hindus in the Amarnath land trouble! When all Muslims prefer following their own personal laws disrespecting the civil law of the land which is applicable to all citizens! when I see Pakistani flags flying high in Muslim dominated street corners in my city and the local crowd erupting in joy in Indo-Pak cricket matches whenever Pakistan is winning! When important arterial roads are blocked so that Muslims can take out taziyas and hold prayers while we, the majority authoritative Hindus, scratch our heads on how to go to office! When a writer like Taslima Nasreen does not get asylum in this country because the minority does not like it…when books get banned because the minority does not like it…govt policies are altered because the minorities might not like it…sorry Sanjana, the advantage that Muslims get in this country…I doubt if they enjoy so much freedom and advantage even in any Muslim country.
@sarahruthbeth22 (43143)
• United States
14 Jan 10
Here in the States we are as close as we will ver be to Fredom From Religion. It isn't required that you be of an religion to get a job or live here.Most of us are Christian but there is still room for others and they have the same rights as Cristians under the law.
@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
12 Jan 10
In some western countries, this is not much of a problem. People do respect other religions. Yes, conflicts do happen sometimes. But are these religios or political?
I am not so sure about Islam dominated countries. Fanaticism still rules in some of the Islamic countries and that is a sad thing.
@sanjana_aslam (4187)
• Malaysia
12 Jan 10
hi fred ,
i just read recently that scouts honor read "to do my duty to my god n country .... " n they refuse to accept an athiest in .. how tru i dont know ..
@sanjana_aslam (4187)
• Malaysia
12 Jan 10
hi shib ... hw can u say this when the caste problem is still there ... n people of same religion cant accept people of another caste .. can now accept people of different religion ... i am so impressed
cheers
@sanjana_aslam (4187)
• Malaysia
12 Jan 10
sorry vid i am not from india ...
eg.. in an army force, be it in america where the majority r christians can a hindu expect better chances of being selected ??
similarly in india .. how r the chances of a christian or muslim ..
yes! the nation do voice out they r fair in their choices BUT, at any chance does this aspect "religion" comes off as a last criteria .. (the unspoken ,unwritten silent criteria)
cheers
@venkatachary (1165)
• India
13 Jan 10
Freedom of religion means one can practice any religion of his choice. Freedom from religion , the binding on the religion should not be extremism.In India many religion are practiced.If you think in broader aspect, I being Hindu, I go to a Doctor for consulting for my wife's Diabetes who gave good treatment who is Christians Earlier Doctor have made me to spent INR 3000/- on her disease. Now this Doctor has made to spend less around INR 2000/-. This is humane approach. All religion teaches the same thing. Love thy neighbors.In India , every one live happily .
@EvanHunter (4026)
• United States
11 Jan 10
I think they are totally different but how can someone say that being represented by a person that has no religious beliefs truly represent the people they serve if the people they serve has 80% majority towards a religion. Of course if the majority of people are like minded they are also going to want someone who is like minded also it seems like a common sense thing to me.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
12 Jan 10
Life is about learning and growing. It takes alot of learning and growing to be able to allow others their freedom. Everybody wants to rule the world. Man is a controlling lot. We will outgrow this given enough time. Like with all things, it has to be worked out. Lots of drama and interaction yet needed.
@matsulori (269)
• United States
12 Jan 10
According to how the United States Constitution is interpreted, "freedom OF religion" includes also the right to follow no religion at all. Here in America one is free to worship any way one wishes -- or not at all, if that is what one wishes.
@monojdhole (200)
• India
12 Jan 10
"Freedom of religion" and "Freedom from religion" are not the same thing. "Freedom of religion" means anyone can have faith in and practise any particular religion. The state will neither propose nor oppose any religion for anyone. A citizen is free to follow any religion.
On the other hand "Free from religion" means no one will have faith in or practise any religion. Here the state stops one to practise or express one's faith in any religion. A citizen cannot follow any religion.