Evangelist Pat Robertson Haiti Suffered Earthquake Due To Pack With Devil
By pyewacket
@pyewacket (43903)
United States
January 15, 2010 9:32pm CST
Well looks like once again the fundamentalists type thinkers like Evangelist Pat Robertson believe Haiti suffered the recent earthquake the way it did on Tuesday, since it's people made a pack with the Devil.
Here's an excerpt from an article I found:
[i]During a broadcast of the 700 Club on the Christian Broadcasting Network, Robertson said:
"Something happened a long time ago in Haiti, and people might not want to talk about it. They (Haitians) were under the heel of the French ... and they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said 'We will serve you' ... and so, the devil said 'Okay, it's a deal' and kicked the French out."[/i]
Now come on folks. What a load of crock. Does that mean anywhere in the world that suffers natural disasters and where many people are injured or die made a pack with the Devil? The victims of Katrina??? The earthquakes of China? The recent deadly storms of the Philippines.
How can anyone believe such garbage anyway? Anyway, what's your stance on his comments about this recent disaster was due to the people making a pack with the Devil?
: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/12608
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@Kashmeresmycat (6369)
• United States
16 Jan 10
And what does he have to say about the earthquakes in California? And the volcano eruptions in the U.S.? And the hurricanes hitting Florida and the east coast every year? And New Orleans? And the flooding of the Mississippi years ago? I could go on and on with this, ya know? We could even get into the bombings right here in the U.S. over the years. And what about 911? All innocent people killed by disasters and tragedies.
What a freakin jerk he is, and what a horrible thing to say at this time with Haiti in such devastation.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I've never paid attention to anything most fanatical evangelists spew out, but when I heard this I just rolled my eyes up. I came across this from an article I found later on about this "preacher" of God:
Robertson's just pushing his own sad agenda: "Robertson can't let human suffering pass" without insinuating that "God did it deliberately," says John Cook in Gawker, because Robertson "hates gay people, black people, Catholics, or whatever other poor dying sap he can find to cruelly mock and use to his own political and fundraising advantage." Remember, the reverend blamed the 9/11 fatalities on pagans, abortionists, gays, and the ACLU—and sagely concluded that God unleashed Hurricane Katrina to punish the people of the Gulf Coast for performing abortions.
It's from this article:
http://www.theweek.com/article/index/105102/Pat_Robertsons_hateful_Haiti_remarks
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@Kashmeresmycat (6369)
• United States
16 Jan 10
No, AmbiePam, I didn't. I don't care for people like him, I don't pay attention to people like him, nor do I listen for even two seconds to people like him. The only reason I'm responding to this discussion is because it's Pye's. Otherwise, I don't give them the time of day. I can just imagine what he said about Katrina now that you brought that up, which makes me even more aggravated. People who THINK they can judge helpless people in a crisis, are just brainless empty-headed, uncompassionate fools to me, and will use anything they can to keep the power over their followers with scare tactics. Look at Manson, he used brain-washing too.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I think it is an absolutely crock of sh1t! This coming from a Christian at a time where the population of Haiti needs comfort and spiritual support just blows my mind. I used to watch the 700 Club but got so disgusted at Pat Robertson and his son for their constant requests for money on every broadcast!
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@jwfarrimond (4473)
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16 Jan 10
That's what these people are all about though. Conning gullible people out of money and posessions in the name of religion.
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@jwfarrimond (4473)
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17 Jan 10
Do you think that It'll work for me? I'm not as greedy as him - I'll settle for a mere million - and I'll be willing to share!
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
16 Jan 10
You mention hurricane Katrina, wasn't he the one that DID say that the reason New Orleans was flooded was because the area was "evil" or was that a different religious wack job?
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I never really paid attention to what he mentioned before, so I had to look it up...and yes he did spew out dire words of doom against the people and the Katrina incident
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Pyewacket if anyone believes this garbage they are no better than the man who said it I am not a big fan of Robertson I just hope this last remark e made open the people that follow him I just hope their eyes were open I think the man is a raving lunatic
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
The real problem is though, his followers really do believe everything he says since they are of the same mentality
@enola1692 (3323)
• United States
16 Jan 10
you know that is sad to believe all those people that perish did something wrong an made a pack with the devil his believes need to wake up an smell the coffee
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Hi pyewacket,
Hard to believe this guy is so popular isn't it? I hadn't read this but I'm not at all surprised. Sadly there are people that will seriously believe everything this man has to say. He preaches with such conviction that I think he actually believes this crap himself. it is ridiculous.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
A lot of these evangelists have all too believing followers...that's the real scary part of it all
@zkapfo123 (319)
• India
16 Jan 10
Hi pyewacket, this type of comments are best left to one's own judgement and opinion. But it's hard to believe, what the evangelist said, "Haitian people making a pact with the devil". I don't suppose anybody in his right mind would believe in this sort of crap. The unfortunate earthquake had occured due to some movement of the tetonic plates, and we all know it. Funny guy that evangelist.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Yes there is a very good scientific reason for the earthquake...Haiti happens to sit literally on top of two major fault lines --just as most of California does and California is still waiting for the "big" one to hit them--when it does hit, that could be as every bit as catastrophic as what happened in Haiti
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
19 Jan 10
Oops-you know you're the first one to point this to me......like the time I did a discussion and I mentioned the benefits of cherries and asked "Did you know cherries are good for goat?" Of course I meant gout......
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@blackbriar (9076)
• United States
18 Jan 10
No one makes a pact with the devil and comes out of it unharmed....
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@blackbriar (9076)
• United States
20 Jan 10
Well looks like once again the fundamentalists type thinkers like Evangelist Pat Robertson believe Haiti suffered the recent earthquake the way it did on Tuesday, since it's people made a pack with the Devil.
Why Pye...I'm surprised you, of all people, didn't get what I said....
@BarBaraPrz (47352)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
16 Jan 10
What a load of crap!
(You left out the earthquake in L'Aquila, Abruzzo, Italy...)
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@BarBaraPrz (47352)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
17 Jan 10
And then there's that little one a week or two before, off the coast of San Francisco...
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jan 10
They're still waiting for the big one in California
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Oops...yes did forget about that earthquake in Italy
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
16 Jan 10
God is still in control. A glimpse at the trend of all these world calamities have shown that people who live a life of lies, embrace in the work of the devils and have distance themselves from our creator suffer destruction most. Humans should live according to the law of God and do justice and be righteous. People have not heed the warning of the tsunami destruction and still pursue their ungodly course. Though God is merciful but he would not spare those who have gone astray from Him. The calamities are signs of God cleansing this world to evict those who have been trapped in demonic cages. Let us all ask God to intervene, to beg God to show us his face and not his back to all his creation.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Mmmm...see I disagree with you and hope you don't mind. Many of us who follow the pagan/wicca path of life would be considered to many as evil and need our souls to be saved...I happen to be a follower of pagan/wiccan beliefs and just wish people would try to understand our beliefs as we are a peaceable people and nature oriented...we respect all life. So not everyone who follows a "different" path than Christian are evil or have packs with the Devil. I just don't plain view natural disasters as a cleansing of the evils of the world by God--if that were true, Earth and mankind in general would have been destroyed long time ago
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
levis143
You see I just don't believe in all that prophecy business...mankind has been predicting the end of the world even before Christ's time. Anytime any major natural disaster happened it was thought it was a sign of the end of the world--so no I just don't believe that
You cite SARS and AIDS...well in times past, we had the plague, typhoid, cholera, smallpox....so once again, people in days with these diseases thought it was a sign of the end of the world too.
@levis143 (70)
• Philippines
16 Jan 10
What is happening now, all these earthquakes, pestilences like AIDS and SARS, and other natural calamities, wars, famine and other painful events are all prophesied by Jesus Christ himself almost 2000 years ago as written in the Bible in Matthew Chapter 24. These earthquakes in different places are bound to happen, and there are many more to come. These are signs of the times that the end of the world is near. Men are all helpless and powerless when face by these natural calamities. It is therefore a great necessity for us to renounce our sins and put out faith and trust in Christ Jesus to save us from destruction that will surely come in this present world.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
I have not heard of anything more stupid, honestly it is beyond silly! The whole of Haiti has made a pact with the Devil? Little babies that were hurt or killed, did they make the same pact? Who on earth is this man to make such statements? That is an arrogant attitude, Is he saying that God chooses to curse people who don’t follow one particular religion? Pleeeease! That is so infuriating! God who is supposed to unconditionally all loving will make souls suffer in such a way because of religious beliefs? Would God make sure the all followers of say Eastern religions will be killed because they are not Christians although they may be kind and considerate human beings? Give me a break!
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
20 Jan 10
Up until now I never paid attention to the ramblings of this so-called person of God, but when I heard this I couldn't believe his audacity. I read up a little further on him and he had made statements that were similar to those who suffered the Katrina incident, and even 9/11--yes I guess anyone that doesn't follow his exact "religion" is in pact with the Devil
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
20 Jan 10
Sorry Pye I got a little carried away there...It's just that some people really get on my nerves with the stupid things they say especially when they are in a position where they can influence many other people...
@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
16 Jan 10
It shows a deplorable lack of sensitivity to flippantly write off the pain, suffering and deaths of thousands of people by saying something so stupid. As an evangelist, who supposedly has good knowledge of the bible, wouldn't you think he'd remember Christ saying, "What you do to the least of thy brethren is what you do unto me." Mr. Roberston evidently seems to think that it's ok to rewrite faith to suit his purposes, instead of what it is intended for. Maybe he should spend a month or two in Haiti helping with the relief efforts, and in so doing remember what faith is supposed to be about.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Unfortunately that would be a bad idea for him to go down there to "help" out...he be too busy trying to convert the "sinners" to his way of thinking--many Haitians do have a belief in voodoo --so oh my gosh..witchcraft
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I would be scared if I were Pat Robertson. He is not God, nor can he second guess God. If one lives where earthquakes are possible, one will happen sooner or later. That is nature, not punishment.
Shame on him. What comes from his mouth sometimes...now that sounds like the devils work to me. Again, shame on him.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jan 10
Yes it's a wonder he doesn't claim that all earthquakes are a result of the people having made pacts with the Devil
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@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
18 Jan 10
Well, God DOES say judge not lest ye be judged, and obviously, Robertson has judged...and harshly. It would be justice perhaps, but according to his own words, it would also be his punishment for having made a million dollar pact with the devil?
Sad.
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@PastorP (1170)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Hi pyewacket.
Sounds like your first line is aimed at all fundamentalists. I'm one, but have not said what Pat said.
You asked,
Does that mean anywhere in the world that suffers natural disasters and where many people are injured or die made a pack with the Devil?
Of course it doesn't. From what you posted, Robertson gave specifics in regard to Haiti, and Haiti alone.
My stance on his comments is this: I don't know. I do know the survivors need prayer and support. I also know that if there is a curse, it can be removed by the atoning work of my Savior, Christ Jesus.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I'm sorry if it sounded that way to you. While I haven't given up my Christian beliefs entirely, I'm a follower of the pagan/wiccan path--after so much of what I've read in (and it wasn't until I was studying the pagan/wiccan path) of the history of Christianity in general I guess maybe I'm a tad cynical. For instance, I totally disagree that only people who believe in the salvation of Christ can one enter heaven...uh, so guess that means a lot of people aren't going to heaven?? Buddhists, Hindus, Jews??
@PastorP (1170)
• United States
16 Jan 10
-- I'll play safe and let Jesus answer your last question:
Mt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
But let us keep in mind though, God has mercifully provided the Cure in Christ.
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@PastorP (1170)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Thanks levis143. I was going to respond this morning and forgot all about it, but your post reminded me. I do agree with your post. In fact, you used one of the Scriptures I had in mind, Acts 4:12.
Here's another directly from Christ Himself:
Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
God bless,
PastorP---Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
17 Jan 10
Really could only do that if they or someone that was born there was in any of these incedents and then ya dont know but to say they made a packed with the Devil its way out there .
dumb
And it was time for France to get out of there Just LIke the English out of India.
Let people rule themselves.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I just wish people like that would keep their opinions to themselves...he condemned the people during the Katrina incident too and even 9/11
@jennybianca (12912)
• Australia
17 Jan 10
Im not even going to read the article. It is an offence to human kind when certain types of Evangelists annouce to everyone that a particular disaster is the result of a pact with the devil, or doing evil things.
What a load of c......
Does he think the catastrohpic bushfires in Australia last year that killed 200 people in the most horrific way, a result of a pact with the devil? I think not.
The poor people in Haiti are suffering enough, without hearing that it is their fault, or at least their ancestors fault.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jan 10
Yes how very insensitive of him. Since there is a large population of Haitian Americans I wonder how they feel about his nonsensical ranting and finger pointing of a pact with the Devil
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jan 10
Oops sorry about that...I noticed you asked me as a friend and instead of hitting the accept I hit the deny by mistake...so asking you as a friend..LOL
Sorry about that...
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
16 Jan 10
pft..if this happened in america,the insurance companies would declare it an act of god so they didn't have to pay out.
i'm going to have to file that under "whatever".
pat thinks everything is retribution lately.
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@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
17 Jan 10
he's out there..
he might have overstepped this time.
a lot of people are furious about that statement.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jan 10
I never really paid attention to him before now....sounds like a nutcase to me..LOL
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Plate techtonics, we had an Earthquake in California and somewhere else in the world, because of the way the plates are, they are going to have one, too. The situation could have easily been reversed and California could be a mess like this, too.
Does he really think that the Haitians made a pack with the devil to get rid of the French? Did Americans do that to get rid of the English during the revoltionary war?
Disasters happen everywhere. In 1998, we had an ice storm up here. I don't think it was to pay us back for anything we did. Much of the East Coast of the USA and Canada had it.
I think the Christian thing to do (but I'm not Christian) would be to help one another and to love one another.
Think about it. How would he know if the Haitians did anything? Has he ever been to Haiti? I find it difficult to believe that everyone in Haiti would make a pact with the devil. Maybe he should read his own Bible. If even one person loves God, then the entire town or whatever would be spared. Not real likely that that many people have no love for God. Geesh!
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jan 10
It's a wonder he didn't say that Italians had a pact with the devil too since they had a major devastating earthquake last year...I guess according to him though most disasters are due to packs with the devil...sheesh
The scary part is that his followers no doubt believe every word he says
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@writersedge (22563)
• United States
17 Jan 10
Oh yeah, I know brainwashed people too, "Paster says this and Paster says that." Why can't they read their own Bible and decide what it says? Granted there are some cultural differences and time period differences like the eye of a needle is actually a hole in the wall fortification (easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to seek the Kingdom of God)and so on, but most stuff they can read and figure out for themselves. Also the Bible says that Jesus is the only judge, so why is he judging people?
Even if you try to follow Biblical or Christian Logic, he goes against that?
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@celticeagle (167015)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Jan 10
Ya, I was just discussing this subject with another member. Isn't he a twit though? People just NEVER cease to amaze me. I can respect their beliefs until they start this sort of crap.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
16 Jan 10
Yes I try to be open minded until I hear nonsense like this
@celticeagle (167015)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Jan 10
Atleast people with any sense know it to be just that- nonsense!
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@jambi462 (4576)
• United States
16 Jan 10
I don't know where religious figures such as this hypocrite get off judging people when they believe that only god can judge them. I find it rather unholy for someone to judge a whole entire population like this. Has he gotten to know any of the people suffering in that earthquake? No he hasn't but he thinks it's okay to make claims like this while their people are dying and suffering.
I say shame on you Pat Robertson perhaps you should go back to studying your religion because I seriously doubt that they agree with judging people that are dying and suffering.
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
17 Jan 10
The problem with a person like this is that they all too often interpret the Bible to suit their own needs and don't really follow it's teachings especially where Christ more or less taught compassion, love and understanding of people