How can you be so Sinful???? You told your husband No!!!!

I disagree on almost every level. First and foremost, being submisive doesn't make you a second class. In some cultures and/or religions, there are other factors where I would agree that they place women as a second class, and some even state this. Certainly, as an American, I do not think of senetors as a second class to regular citizens. In fact, I would think of senetors as a higher class if I were to think of it either way at all. However, a senetor is expected to be submissive to the will of the people. I hope you don't think of yourself as a higher class than the cheff that prepares your food when you go to a fancy resteraunt to eat. Still, he fixes the food you request, and is therefore submissive to your will. Submissive does not automatically mean a lower class of citizen. I teach Martial Arts, and don't think of myself as a higher class than my students, but I still expect submissiveness from them. It's the only way they'll learn. Also, submissive doesn't mean you can't say no. If you walk into a French restraunt and order a taco, he'll say no. Does this mean he's not submitting to the request of a paying customer? No, it means he's not submitting to an unreasonable request from a non-paying customer. Also, submissive does not mean you can't be free either. One of my students is free to stop taking classes whenever they like. Someone who is submissive is often expected to express their ideas. The submission of women is not about slavery. On the American frontier, there was a definate attitude of requiring women to be submisive. At the same time, there was a whole class of songs sung by men that mocked the idea of women being inferior to men. One that springs to mind was about a couple where the husband said to his wife he could do all her daily chores in an hour. So they trade chores. By the end of the song, she's relaxing about noon because the only thing left to do is the evening feeding of the cattle, and he's bearly finished cleaning up after breakfast. He then finishes the song by saying that she does more work in a day than he does in seven. Obviously, this is an exageration, but it still goes to show that women were not treated unfairly or unequal. Try reading the little house books sometime. Women were treated with a kind of reverence that few men find the energy to give them these days.

yes most religions see women and put women at a lower class..BUT being submissive doesnt make one a lower class..thats two completely different things..YES women according to the bible should cater to their husbands at all times BUT thats not the same as being submissive necessarily...its being controled and owned which again is very much a bible thing....