The higher I go, the harder the fall!
By Theresaaiza
@Theresaaiza (10487)
Australia
January 16, 2010 1:56am CST
I am not a computer buff. In fact, my being a computer literate is only confined in Microsoft Word 1997, and Windows XP.
5 months ago, I finally got a laptop that I have always dreamed off given to me by my aunt from the states. I'm from the Philippines, by the way.
Pardon my ignorance, but with Vista, I am like going around in a maze that doesn't seem to have a way out. Some programs will not work.
Do you think I should try having it reformatted to an XP instead but I fear I might make a bigger maze by doing that.
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19 responses
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
I agree to that. A lot of people have grown quite fond to XP so that the changes made in Vista quite created ripples to the already placid lake. I hope Windows 7 don't create the massive waves. hehehe. But I will consider your WIN 7 suggestion someday. I just needed to try out suggestion #9 here by skysuccess. Thanks for the response!
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Feb 10
Hi there, my dear friend. :)
I checked my hard drive and it said there 221 GB. Does that mean anything? i'm reading an alien language here so pardon my total cluelessness. And it says that i have 154 GB free.
Help me out! What really do I need to check?
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@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
17 Jan 10
Yes, have it reformated to XP. Vista had a tremendous number of problems when it came out. I have it on a laptop and now I seldom use that machine. I prefer my XP desktop computer instead. It's the difference between swimming in water or sinking in quicksand!
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
Like you I also have an XP desktop. I have done better with it than with my brand new, shimmering laptop. NOt that I am not grateful but I would have enjoyed it with the XP better. BUt I Guess I'm done complaining and get used to the vista.
I am scared about tinkering with my laptop so i better leave it that way. Besides, if it's any consolation, I have a desktop with XP.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Feb 10
Problem is this laptop was bought in the US so my hopes of having it changed to XP for free are really impossible. And there is no ToSHIBA service center nearby that I have known of unless maybe I searched harder all across town.
YOu see I'm trying to avoid any expenses right now especially that I am not really earning anything. I guess I'll stick with Vista for now.
Thanks anyways for all your kind advices.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
19 Jan 10
My husband bought a computer and had the computer store take Vista off and put XP on. It wasn't horribly expensive, it was done right and we have a wonderful computer without the headache of Vista. Good luck whatever you choose.
@derek_a (10873)
•
16 Jan 10
I have a laptop with Vista on too and many of my programs on my XP desktop will not work on it. I have friends who bought new machines and had XP installed. Up to now, I think it is by far the better operating system, and from what I understand, is better and more straightforward than Windows 7.
I don't like the fact that programs I have paid a lot of money for will not work on later operating systems, so I will resist having anything other than XP whilst I can still get it. - Derek
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Feb 10
Anyway I am guessing that XP will stay a bit longer. I don't think it'd be Windows 1995 anytime soon so I guess I'll just stiuck to XP for my desktop and Vista for my laptop. I really hate having to tinker with my laptop especially that it's sealed with a threatening kiss from my aunt!
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
Hi derek, I myself could take a hint that there's manipulative business going on around these parts. "They" most likely intended to render some programs obsolete so that we will be forced to purchase "upgraded" ones which will make "them" earn. That is happening right? I guess someday XP will be obsolete. Half of me would like to keep up with the mainstream, but half of me wants to go for the thing that I have been grown comfortable. It's quite a dilemma actually. :)
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@hexeduser22 (7418)
• Philippines
16 Jan 10
Just stick to windows XP. Windows Vista may be the most recent between the two but windows XP wins when it comes to performance. Have it reformat by someone who knows what he's doing and your done. There wont be any problem if your already used to using windows XP.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
Hi to you, :)
My laptop's a Vista and my desktop's XP. Between the two, I am more satisfied with my desktop. If only I could bring it anywhere with me, had a better monitor, I would sell my laptop at half its price! I hope you don't get the impression that I am bragging about my gadgets. I'm just saying that Vista is really giving me a hard time. I'll take your advice. I'll stick with XP for my desktop. For my laptop however, I'm still not sure what to do.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Feb 10
I tried reformatting our office PC and it almost cost me my job because I removed the sound card, video card, and all other stuffs I can't really figure out. Believe me, my Dexter's Lab days are gone for good.
@hexeduser22 (7418)
• Philippines
19 Jan 10
I'd say make your laptop XP too. I learned reformatting my laptop accidentally and I can say it's really easy just follow and understand the step by step process in reformatting. I'm sure you will not be lost and be satisfied with your laptop again
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@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
16 Jan 10
If you can find a windows 7 that would be the best. if you are going for windows XP that is called a downgrade not upgrade coz you will be installing a older OS version. If you are into reformatting your HD, Take the Windows 7/ultimate, download it from the internet, its free, it will solve all your problem, for 30 days ( at least) it going to ba a 30 day trial version which is as good as the real version. you would have first hand experience for W7. That is before you reformat your HD to XP. I believe this is a good choice, to compare Vista with XP, Xp is 100% compliant with almost all softwares, but W7 is the best, its a comeback for microsoft against vista
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
Yes, I see downgrade is the proper term. I might consider Windows 7 someday. I do have a friend who could do me a favor but for the meantime, I might try to find my way through Vista. I might end up seeing its benefits one I get into the hang of it. :) thnx
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Feb 10
Does that mean, my OS would zap into oblivion after 90 days?
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
19 Jan 10
i just read yesterday or maybe 2 days ago, its a free upgrade for W7 from Vista (legal Vista) believe the news came from Cnet.and to update you, W7 trial Beta is now good for 90days.
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@iharidh (308)
• Indonesia
17 Jan 10
I gained experience in computers just by hitting the keyboards, without friends to tell me, teachers to teach me. In short, learning by doing. So i think everybody can do that, as fas as we don't touch the core system of the computer.
The first time I use vista I got the same feeling as you got. That feeling I didn't get when I transformed from Windoes 98 into XP. But in a while, I already know to use it. I don't recommend you to downgrade your laptop into XP operating system. The reason is simply because computer technology changes so fast. We don't even realize until windows seven has been launched. From what I heard, windows seven is quite similar to windows vista, just couples of modification.
For you information, here I will give you some sharing about vista.
Like you said, few programs might not work in vista, although the same program worked in XP. I don't quite understand the technical reason, but I heard because of some language development. You are not to worry this problem, because it has quite time from the launching of vista, so I think every program provider should have fix this problem.
The second is about Microsoft Office. In vista, normally you will use Ms Office 2007 which has different extension file with Ms Office 2003 (in XP). Again, this is not a problem to worry much, because files in Ms Office 2003 can be read in Ms office 2007. But normally, this is reversible. Files from Ms office 2007 can not be read by Ms office 2003. This problem can be solved because Ms office 2007 has a feature to link this problem, but you have to accept the consequences of risking some advanced feature in Ms office 2007.
Hope this will help you.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
I dont want to dowgrade my laptop actualy so I intended to learn how things are done over at Vista. I guess sometimes we really should just keep moving forward than get stuck, right?
I have also discovered a way through the MS WORD predicament. There's this compatibility mode where I can save my documents in a way that they are still readable even in older MS versions.
Thanks fro ur time.
@iharidh (308)
• Indonesia
19 Jan 10
Personally I agree with you to move on, because our environment is always moving on. So there's no reason for us to get stuck.
About the Ms Word difficulties, I am sure that you would choose the best for you, because there's always solution to problem, right...
@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
16 Jan 10
if you have a copy of XP - do it! Vista likes to "phone home" to Microsoft - I would put XP on it, it doesn't have to report weekly, nearly daily like Vista - and maybe why you are having trouble since it was sent from the states and not bought there - its trying to locate the server it is used to - yes, they are pre-programmed for certain areas
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
Oh really? I didn't know that. Yeah, myabe the fact that it was thrown over here does have an effect whatsoever.
I do have a pirated XP....hehehe....nearly everything here is pirated, sorry. It's just that I am not very confident of my computer skills. In fact I might only make things worse by tinkering with my machine so I gtta see someone professional or expert to do this.
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@jezzmay (1845)
• United States
19 Jan 10
I do not know much about laptops, but my laptop
has XP on it. I like it and I think I would not
like Vista. I have a son that has Vista on a desk
top, I tried it, I do not know much about it. I do
not want to know about it. I keep my XP.
Have a great day.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
10 Feb 10
I understand your loyalty to the XP! Haha, we are practically on the same boat on that one. Except that my boat upgraded to Vista and it's wavy out here.
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
17 Jan 10
Hey Theresaaiza! How funny that you should bring this up! My
friend just gave me his old laptop! It is some brand that I
have never heard of, but he is my "computer guy" and it was
his personal laptop so it must be a good one! It has Windows
Vista in it and I told him to please put in XP because that
is what I'm used to! I haven't started to use it yet because
he hasn't set up the Router thingy! It even has a little webcam!
My PC doesn't even have a webcam! I wanted it so when the weather
gets nice here I can take my computer outside and mylot! And
hopefully take it when I go down to Florida this Spring to
see my Mom! Hope I learn to use it by then!
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
Oh it won't be too hard. XP seems to be the easiest thing on the planet right now. I Hope someday I will have to say the same for Vista when I get used to it!. Wow, Florida! Enjoy!
@Arkie69 (2156)
• United States
17 Jan 10
The XP Pro is the best operating system Microsoft has ever come up with, or probably ever will. I Hate the Vista. I bought a new laptop the other day and it has windows 7 on it. After getting to know it I hate it more than I do Vista. The windows 7 is a piece of junk. I am going to see if I can find someone that can format it and install the XP Pro on it. It is a very poor computer the way it is but I am afraid I will mess it up if I try to do it myself. If I can't do that then I am just going to find me a good used desktop with XP already on it.
Art
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
A lot of my responders, including myself actually share the same sentiments as you. If I were to choose now, XP would be best for me. I guess the benefits of the updates seem pretty vague for me right now. However, I am willing to give myself some time to get used to it.
@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
16 Jan 10
I use windows vista myself and I've not had any problems with it. If you want to reformat your hard drive and install windows xp on it make sure you back up any important data first and then you will have to purchase a new unused copy of windows xp home edition. I would try to work with vista though as it's not all that bad. There are some programs that may not be compatible with vista. The important thing is to make sure you always download the latest updates from the Microsoft website as this includes updates for software and things like that. You can set this so that these updates are downloaded automatically. Good luck. Andrew
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
16 Jan 10
I do get those updates everytime i plug in the internet cable. How do I know if they;re safe? They just automatically get in. I guess I haven;t mentioned too that my antivirus feature is not too good. I only have the free version of avira. And I doubt if it detects anything at all.
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@AndrewFreyne (6281)
• United Kingdom
16 Jan 10
The windows updates are safe as long as they are originating from the Microsoft updates website. I have my system set so this is done automatically whenever I am online. I would recommend you use a good antivirus product like Norton 360 which you have to pay for but it's a good product. Otherwise you can use a good free version like AVG free. Andrew
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
It's great to hear that the updates are safe/ I have heard though that they tend to slow the computer down. How true?
@janeajozelle (197)
• Philippines
16 Jan 10
yup, that the problem with vista it only recognize the new devices and the obsolete devices become useless unless in xp they got better interface.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
I agree, sometimes, it's hard to keep up. :) thanks for the response
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@ashishp2c (286)
• India
17 Jan 10
vista differs in a lot of thhings from XP. I think you should use it for some time to get used to it. Windows 2007 is also good as compared to vista.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
Seems to me they introduced Vista first to deliberately irk all of us, so that when they launched windows 7, everybody would go racing to buy that newest OS. hehehe. Sounds very cynical of me. Thanks for the response.
@angela018 (143)
• Philippines
17 Jan 10
hi theresaaiza..
talking about vista.. well some programs , software and applications are not compatible in vista. you should know if the said program, sotware or application is requiring a vista or xp. there are alot of software an d application that has an info about what kind or windows they are compatible with. check first before installing..
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
I didn't have difficulty with some programs because they are already vista compatible. I have reviewer CDs because I am currently reviewing for my Nursing exam, NCLEX, and some of them wont work on my vista. So i end up using my desktop whcih is an XP. There are movies that I cannot play in my vista too. Sometimes, it gets really boring with my laptop. I nearly can't do the usual stuffs because of its too advanced features.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
16 Jan 10
Hi Theresaaiza,
I think you can consider another option.
Upgrade your Office Suite and other app software programs to ones that can run with your Vista OS. At least, this will ensure that you have the latest and updated to have vulnerabilities which will compromise your machine and get hacked.
Or, you can always partition up your current drive and install XP onto the new partition, along with your other familiar software programs. I think this is a much better alternative than reformatting the whole drive and go backwards. This will allow you to enjoy the best of both worlds as you await for the rest of your apps and software programs some catching up time.
Yes, you can do this as Vista is the only OS currently that allows you to add partitions without having to reformat your entire drive. Check it out, it is relatively quite easy.
I hope that this will be of help here.
Have a nice day.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
Hi sky, that is really a great suggestion. I just don't know anyone who could do that for me yet. Although I already have person in mind. So did you say, I didn't have to reformat? And that I could just add a partition? I could really try that.
Thanks so much.! I'll give you a feedback.
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
19 Jan 10
Yes, Theresaaiza,
You do not need to reformat the whole drive as Vista is the only OS that allows you to partition without having to reformat your hard drive.
Just check out the books on Vista OS or you can always bring your laptop to your nearest authorized service center and have them assist you. Check it out and I am sure you will be impressed to the fullest.
Do keep us if not me, posted, and if you have any problems don't hesitate to check back.
Thanks for the BR and do have a good time with your new OS.
Take care.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
19 Jan 10
P.S.:
If you are already working on your computer, please remember to backup before your perform this task.
@ifa225 (14460)
• Indonesia
16 Jan 10
hello there,
I feel the same way too. i would rather take 2003 windows xp than the latest one. It is tougher. and the important thing is, i feel comfort and i had well known this operator before. I guess tech is being product to easy your life. So pick the one you most comfort about it.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
If comfort was the issue, my I would have loved to downgrade my PC back to XP. It's just that I am apprehensive to make changes to my laptop as I might cause further damages and glitches.
tnx for the response
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@lipstick2009 (1236)
• Philippines
16 Jan 10
I haven't tried Windows Vista, i think somebody told me it's quite complicated.
So far im satisfied with Windows XP Service Pack and i think im going to use it
for a long long time.
I've heard Linux is good in barring viruses and spywares but its quite complicated too..so really i will stick to Windows XP.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
16 Jan 10
I am not so sure but for me yes, I find it complicated especially after having been used to the XP for a long time. I don't really want to downgrade since we know that technology is advancing all the time and I definitelyt dont wannna get left behind but I am clueless how to move about in Vista. That's what's giving me a hard time.
Thanks for the response.
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@chdsandeep (397)
• India
16 Jan 10
Yes, there are many problems with Vista so it is better to upgrade to window 7. I have used window XP and window Vista and i found Vista was looking nice but was not nice in real but XP has no comparison and that is still ultimate and i think if you have no problem with window XP then go for that and if you wish you can buy new window 7 as that is also very good.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
19 Jan 10
I may consider upgrading to Win 7 soon. As of now, I guess I need a lot of catching up to do as far as Vista is concerned. I'd like to take these OS one day at a time. :) Thnks
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@myzire72 (1154)
• Singapore
27 Jan 10
Since your laptop comes equipped with Windows Vista, then it should have no problems supporting Windows 7. IMHO, I would suggest that you go for Windows 7 rather than Windows XP. However, don't take my word for it. Search for reviews on Windows 7 and then decide for yourself. Personally I have read lots of reviews about Windows 7. It seems many gurus out there like it better than Windows Vista. I have used it for a few months now. So far so good.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
10 Feb 10
So are you saying that Windows 7 bears more resemblance to XP than Vista is?
Okay, I'll try to look for reviews on it. Thanks for the suggestion. :)