Music Lessons question
By suspenseful
@suspenseful (40192)
Canada
January 26, 2010 11:18am CST
When I was younger, I took piano lessons and my teacher had me practice two or three pieces at a time for the week until I got them right, but I had to stop lessons when my father sold the piano and was unable to get one of my own until just recently as a gift from my husband.
I borrowed some piano lesson books from my friends to catch up and review what I had done before. Now my husband tells me that I have to practice one piece until I get it right and that means perfect, and then go to the next piece.
I usually review the other pieces and of course I do the scales, and theory, etc. and much of that is review. But I cannot see just playing one piece all the time for half an hour.
So who is right?
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14 responses
@GardenGerty (161927)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Nice gift from your husband. I would say that either way is right. I would probably humor him because he is ill. Practice the main piece mostly, the review old work, preview new, but concentrate on main piece.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
26 Jan 10
I do review the old pieces, but some I cannot because I gave the books back to my friend and have only the two recent ones. It is just that he wants for me to just do the main piece, but after a while of doing just it, I make more mistakes then when I first started so for me, variety works.
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@GardenGerty (161927)
• United States
26 Jan 10
I know, I would have that problem as well. I just know that he is ill and it sounds like he is just as bossy as ever.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
25 Feb 10
He is getting less bossy. What we need is someone who teaches music lessons to tell how things work. Luckily I know of a couple. I have been learning on my own, getting music books at the thrift store and have send for some cds and dvds, but with the music books at the thrift store, why do not they erase all those pencil notations? I do not what a b flat is. No one has to point it out to me.
@lakerfanster (2577)
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26 Jan 10
There is no set way really, If you listen to musicians they will tell you very different stories about how they learnt. I would just say do what feels natural to you as you need to be comfortable and if you are comfortable with that way then you will learn better than another way.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
26 Jan 10
He never took lessons, family did not think music was important and when he got the accordian, he got the books. Now if I were practicing Bach or Handel or something complicated like that, I would concentrate on those pieces, but then they are usually so long I would need the whole half an hour to an hour to learn them.
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
26 Jan 10
Are you playing for pleasure? Then do it the way that pleases you... except, as someone else said, since your husband is ill, you could do it his way to humor him. Do you have time to play more than half an hour? If so, why not practice one piece (until it's perfect) for part of the time, then take the rest of the time to play whatever you like. That way you will have time to just enjoy the piano as well as time for more focused practice.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
26 Jan 10
If I were playing just for pleasure, I would not try to borrow my friend's lessons books, would I? I plan to help out at church as an accompanist or play when the other pianists are either on holidays or are sick. Or maybe at the concert when I am not singing, but I would rather be singing. For me, doing several pieces works best. I do practice a piece about three or four times or until it is almost there, and then go to the other pieces and do a lot of review, but I am not going to play one piece for the whole half and hour.
Oh I plan to increase the time later on. I am looking for online lessons. My friend told me what her lessons cost a week, and I checked and it seems that the best online lessons are about the same price, but I will have to buy all at once.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
I love playing the piano, but if I were better and someone asked me to play for the church or at a Christmas do, I would do it. It also just that I am also a writer and when someone speaks of writing for pleasure, we feel as if we go and use pastel colored paper and weird fonts because we are just writing for fun and a hobby and really do not care to do it professionally. I am also a perfectionist and want to see a piece and even though I do not play the notes exactly, want to put my own interpretation, make it my own.
I am also good at playing by ear, both hands, not just the right. I feel that piano playing is creative like cooking. You do the recipe right the first time and after that you add a little of this and that to make it your own. The same with piano playing.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
27 Jan 10
I took piano for 9 years and I do think I had to learn several peices at once practice for a week if they wernt right I had tehm for another week
I used to set for hours at the paiano specially if I had to wait on something.
And if I was mad I pounded it.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
I was always getting ahead of my piano teacher and he would tell me to slow down. I also was not that good at memory. I mean it was not as if I was slow but because I was always looking at the next line, I could not concentrate. Also although I did not know it then, I was more of a listener and a visualizer then a reader and I was more interested in what the piece sounded like then what the notes looked like.
In fact, at that time, I could only play the right hand by ear and I was so frustrated that I could not play the left hand to correspond with the right.
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@cyrus123 (6363)
• United States
28 Jan 10
You started young, didn't you, Lakota12? I couldn't start until after I started school. I took piano lessons for a little while when I was in the second grade. However, I had to quit because it was interfering with my school work. I started piano lessons again when I got in high school and I took for two years. I can't remember how long I took exactly but I took until I went off to college. I majored in music when I was in college but I was a voice major. I did take piano lessons at the same time. Kathy.
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
27 Jan 10
I think what your husband says there makes sense. But ask yourself too; would you prefer to do that, or do you enjoy several pieces each time and perfecting them slowly. I would love different varieties and if possible would want to master all. I don't even know how to play the piano, so it's awesome that you know how to play. I think there's no right or wrong answer, and totally depends on the piano player itself.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
I prefer after doing scales and chords, starting with the review pieces and then starting on the main piece or pieces I am leaning. I have a lesson book and a theory book (actually it is my friends and I am borrowing it, and it already is penciled in, but I plan to get the best piano lesson software after I finish putting money back in our equity account) My husband never took lessons and he just said that after observing our friend who is learning and is doing a few pieces with her teacher. And she told me that she had difficulty with the pedals and applying the right finger pressure on the keys. That is because before she first learned on the organ. The pieces she is playing are quite simple and she is doing a duet with her teacher.
Now that is one thing I could not do, duets. I am too much of an improviser.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Feb 10
I never learned how to drive. I did get a license but never used it and for me it was the parallel parking that I had the most difficulty plus if I passed the written, I usually failed the driving, but if I passed the driving, I usually failed the written. No coordination. I do find it hard with the pedals, and besides I prefer to do a solo. I do like to play different pieces but I usually try them for three or four times before getting on to the next. So far I am able to learn a new piece a day, but I am only on level 3A (most of it is review) and probably when I get a higher level it might take a piece every 2 days or a week even and instead of half an hour practice, it will be an hour.
Right now I am doing 40 minutes.
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
31 Jan 10
Duets? That sounds hard to me too. It's best to play solo, though I don't know much about piano techniques. Thanks for explaining it to me there.. The pedals look hard, but I think just like learning how to drive skillfully and etc.. with practice, one can be good. But I think I would have to take a bit more time in mastering piano lessons, LOL..
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@umabharti (3972)
• India
27 Jan 10
hi,great that your husband takes lot of interest in purchasing a piano for you as per your wish.As you are playing it for ur interest towards playing a piano totally it depends on your own decision to pratice one piece for hours or take someother and play.When i had a Veena then i was playing all atleast weekly twice so that i dont forget the lessons i learnt in my childhood present i dont have it,it got broken.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
Right now the pieces are fairly easy and when they get harder, it might take a whole lesson just to play a one piece. But he does not understand that I cannot play it at a fast tempo the first time, I have to start slow and then gain speed especially when there is a lot of octave reaching and jumping from one octave to another as well as doing scales in both hands, etc.
I do practice every day. That sort of helps.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Feb 10
I think it is best to do a few pieces during practice, else you would get bored. I find if I just do one piece all through the lesson, not counting the scales and appegios and the theory, then I tend to make a whole lot of mistakes and I do not want to do that.
@ElicBxn (63753)
• United States
31 Jan 10
my piano teacher gave us several pieces to work on between lessons and we were supposed to practice all of them.
I found that I did best never giving more than 10 minutes to a single piece because then I started anticipating the score and messing up
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Feb 10
i thought I was the only one who did that. And your piano teacher sounds a bit like what mine was. He would give a lot of pieces to play. I did not know about the 10 minutes. Usually I do each piece about three to four times, but maybe that is equal to 10 minutes. I will have to time myself and find out.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
2 Feb 10
That is like me in chemistry. I always wanted to be a nurse, but I was bad at Math and Science. I did love music, it was just that I wanted to switch from classical to popular, so what I would do when I got home and after my lessons, would play the popular piece from the radio on the piano with my right hand.
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@Hatley (163773)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Jan 10
oh I am so glad you got your piano, thats wonderful. I asked my musical friends about practicing and they almost all had a bit different answers. so I guess it would be best for you to go
with your own gut feeling. I think you would probably do just as well to play more than one thing in practice so you would not get bored of the whole thing, I mean do your own thing as I am sure you instinctively know what is the right way for you to practice. I think so much of the time we all feel one way about doing something and others want us to do it differently, yet when it comes to doing it our own way is usually the best way. have fun happy piano playing Suspenseful and happy mylotting too.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
26 Jan 10
If I played just one piece all the time, I would get bored. I never learned that way when I was younger. My teacher would have me review, start a new piece that was hard and also a new piece that was not as hard. He knew I was the type that would try the hard piece first, and then got back to the new piece that was not as hard and was really the one he wanted me to learn. I am that way, I cannot learn just easy things, I have to do the hard way first and then when it comes to the one that is not as easy, I find it just a breeze.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
1 Feb 10
He is not a music teacher, but he is a knowitall. I do know what I am doing and when I did take lessons, the teacher gave me at least two pieces to play at a time, and more often three or four. I think it is because each piece has something in it I had to learn.
@gitfiddleplayer (10362)
• United States
27 Jan 10
You are because you are playing it. Practice does not make perfect, perfect practice does. So, if you can play a few pieces at a time then its much easier to play them all correctly because you are in the zone of learning and site reading. If you think its better to dull yourself on one piece of music just to do it to the other ones then I don't think the joy of playing will sound out.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
It would not get better for me to just play one piece over and over again. I find when that happens, the piece sounds worse and worse and then it is like me just having cheesecake for dessert seven days a week. Pretty soon I stop liking it. I am also doing a lot of sight reading and I can recognize a piece just by looking at it.
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@cyrus123 (6363)
• United States
26 Jan 10
I think you are right, myself. Practice until you get it right is the way I see it. I think practicing the same piece over and over for half an hour is overdoing it, especially when you have other pieces to get to. It sounds like your husband is a perfectionist. I thought he didn't want you to have a piano. I guess I missed your last few discussions but he must have changed his mind. In that case, I'm glad he did. Kathy.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
31 Jan 10
I find if I keep playing the same piece over and over again, I start making mistakes. I can do it about three to four times, but that is all and then I have to go to another piece. Of course, when I start to play Bach, Handel, or a piece written by one of those guys it will be a little different, but then they have such long pieces that I cannot get through one in a half an hour session.
But right now I am on the 3A level, so the pieces are rather short.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
Well he did not realize why I wanted the piano. He thought I was like his niece who played and practiced and now that she got into her teens, was no longer interested. He did not realize that my dad sold the piano not because I no longer wanted to play it but because he was not that creatively inclined. He also realized that his family was the same way and how he missed out. Also it could be that he never realized how joyous it is to have a piano and it could also be because he might not have that long to live.
Oh if you think he is a perfectionst, I am a bit of a one myself, but if I keep playing a piece forever, it gets rather boring. So I do scales, chords, review, and then do the piece.
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@cyrus123 (6363)
• United States
28 Jan 10
I thought that it might be your husband's illness, for one thing. Like I said, I'm just glad he finally got you a piano and that you're enjoying playing it so much. I know it can get boring playing the same piece over and over so much but like I also said, just keep practicing it until you get it right. I find that once I get a piece right, I want to play or sing it again to make sure, lol! Kathy.
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
Good but is it best to just practice one piece over and over and over again. Or is it best to practice two or three pieces at the same time? I think that the second way is best because it means more pieces to play and also you do not get bored. That is how my old piano teacher used to teach me.
@chazzief (237)
• Malaysia
27 Jan 10
Aww...you're lucky to receive such gift!
well, it depends on the learner because art is something abstract and there's no absolute way of learning. You should start of by playing easy song. and while learning to play that, try listen songs from the same composer to get the feeling of it..
I've been playing for 13 years and I'm still learning my way especially in classicals. I took two weeks to just learning Bach's Minuet! that's how slow I am!
Good luck with your piano lesson!
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
28 Jan 10
Thank you. I feel that I am doing it right, playing a variety of pieces so that I do not get bored. I used to play a lot of classical music and found it very hard. I know what you mean about Bach, his pieces are very difficult. I wish i had had a piano most of my adult life instead of getting one now when I have just 30 to 40 years left in me. I could have used one steady for the last 40 years.
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