What sort of term is AFRO-AMERICAN?!

@mommyboo (13174)
United States
January 31, 2010 3:01pm CST
I'm sorry, I just saw this term in a POLL somebody posted! What the heck sort of term is this anyway? Is AFRO considered a race or something now or is the person that just posted the poll an idiot? Also, I still don't understand the whole hyphenating something-else-american, is that like making a statement or something? *going back to bashing head against the wall*
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• United States
31 Jan 10
As far as I know Afro American is an old PC phrase which, as I mentioned to the blue bunny in this discussion, is related to the popular hair style that socially conscious black Americans wore during the civil rights period. African American is the more recent term. To answer your hyphen question, it isn't just a matter of blacks, or Asians, or Chicanos, being proud of their ethnic identity. It is connected to the history of racism in the nation, and an insistence by whites in previous generations to continue to mark nonwhites as not quit American. This is why negro used to be common, as well as colored, but very rarely would you hear anyone call a group of nonwhite Americans (when the speaker was also a U.S. citizen, and not a member of the minoritized group) just Americans. When the civil rights movement first began integration was the goal. People wanted to simply be Americans, however when there was great resistance to this integration, those who sought integration adopted a hyphen mindset. They figured they would never really be considered full Americans, and refused to be ashamed of their ethnic heritage. So that's pretty much why the hyphen deal still takes place.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Feb 10
Well, following the whole idea of accepting differences and not pointing them out while accepting them - and being tolerant, it makes much more sense to tell everybody 'we are simply Americans'. I actually don't mind it if someone labels THEMSELVES but I take offense of certain people labeling OTHERS or delegating them to part of a group which they might NOT associate themselves with. The resistance to me seems more in peoples' minds than real, especially now unless you live in an area where people are still split via social class and a lot of underhanded segregation still goes on. I have heard of places like this, where they still have separate dances and school functions and people don't mix. I don't understand that at all, I think it is asss-backwards and the only way it will stop is if those people are FORCED to integrate or be incarcerated.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 Feb 10
I don't see the need in pointing out the fact that people may look different, don't we all look different with the exception of identical twins or triplets? Maybe it was the way I was raised, which I feel is much better than people who go about calling everybody around them 'race' or 'ethnic' names rather than the person's given name... For instance, my daughter does not differentiate any person due to race. That is not what we teach her and she is around all sorts of different people. She thinks some people tan better than others and that is about it. Some people speak different languages, celebrate different holidays, and she thinks that is cool, but she doesn't use any defining terms for it and neither do I. I never did growing up. 'David' was not 'the black kid', he was DAVID. Or maybe he was wearing a baseball cap and a red shirt. Most CHILDREN - as far as I am concerned - are not riding on that 'culture pride' wagon and they never would if it weren't taught to them by parents or other adults, which is where part of the problem begins. I hope that doesn't sound mean to you, it's not meant meanly, it's just that kids don't consider all the political crap that adults enforce on them as they get older. This appears to be one of those things.
• United States
3 Feb 10
I'm having trouble following you mommyboo, what do you mean by accepting differences while not pointing them out?
@p1kef1sh (45681)
31 Jan 10
I thought that it was someone with frizzy hair who still fondly recalls the 70s as the best days of their life. Surely the whole point of the USA is that it took in people (some of them no doubt huddled) and re-established them as one homogenous nationality. Race of course is an entirely different thing.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
3 Feb 10
It was meant to be a joke. I bombed didn't I? LOL.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
3 Feb 10
LOL. For ages I thought that you avatar was a polar bear! I just looked close up. I apologise if the baby is yours. I hope that she won't be too damaged by my erroneous interpretation!!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Feb 10
Oh Pikey, even if I had an afro, nobody would call me an afro-american. At least I hope not lol. It is examples like this that made me post this to begin with.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
2 Feb 10
Well, I guess it is derived from African American. Black people in the US have had many names attached to them. When I was young the term negro was used, without derogatory conotations, then it was black people, then it was African Americans, now i guess it is Afro-Americans. It is interesting, in Canada we don't use the term African-Canadian, at least most people don't. It is still "black", if race has to be identified.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Feb 10
I have no problem with black and white, they are just colors ..... and in every large box of crayons lol. I vote with not being so uberly creative with this. We have created 5i568796 shades and names in a situation where we only needed two to begin with.
@dawnald (85139)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
I'm a proud Germo-pole-jewish-whatever-American. idk Maybe African-American is a race and Afro-American is a hairstyle?
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@dawnald (85139)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
Works for me!
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Feb 10
A hairstyle... lol! To me you're just Dawn . And since you live in America I'd probably call you an American.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
3 Feb 10
I believe that the Afro part in the term Afro-American is a slang way of saying African. I wouldn't say that the person that started the poll was necessarily an idiot, but I don't think that they were being politically correct either. Now you've got me really interested, what kind of poll was it that used this term? Was it something that they should have been PC in talking about or was it something that was light hearted that it didn't matter if a person was being PC or not?
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
4 Feb 10
It was a poll someone posted on facebook but it really rubbed me wrong when I saw it. I doubt the person was trying to be PC, but to me that doesn't seem PC anyway. PC to ME means not grouping people according to things like that.
• United States
1 Feb 10
Afro-American is short for "I need more attention" they don't want to be Americans because that will not get them more attention. They can't stand to face the fact that they are not really from Africa, just desended from someone that was from Africa. I am of German decent, that does not make me a German-American, I am an American and very proud of that alone.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Feb 10
Darn, I already gave out my best response but you should get one too... lol! Sometimes I wonder if that's why people like to draw attention to themselves by showcasing 'what they are'. I spend so much time stating 'I am JUST American' and there they are waving signs and balloons. Weird.
@owlwings (43907)
• Cambridge, England
31 Jan 10
Well I'm often classed as a Caucasian, even though I have never been to the Caucasus and, as far as I know, my ancestry is Danish, Saxon, Norman French and Midland English. I am not white (but a pinkish shade of yellowish-gray) nor am I British (I have no Celtic blood whatsoever, as far as I know). In this country, it is always optional to state one's colour or race, though I have to say that I'm proud to be English (go on, tell me that English is a language!) and generally choose 'White, British' when asked. Our options, by the way, usually include 'White, British', 'White, Irish' and 'White, Other' as well as 'Black, British', 'Black, Other', 'Asian' and other silly classifications. The whole thing is a complete mealy-mouthed muddle of being non-P.C. while trying to be and of trying to classify by culture.
@jb78000 (15139)
31 Jan 10
they are also always different. some are incredibly long lists of options and it can get very confusing. also there is never a blue rabbit option
@owlwings (43907)
• Cambridge, England
31 Jan 10
Nor an owl option
@jb78000 (15139)
31 Jan 10
see comment in box above
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
1 Feb 10
Its just a contraction of African American... I guess I understand what you mean though, since black people aren't african americans unless they actually immigrated from Africa. Otherwise they are just Americans who happen to be black.
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Feb 10
I really liked this response.... I'm glad you understood. That's exactly it, 'otherwise they are just Americans who happen to be black'. I couldn't agree more. Same thing goes for any other ethnicity.
@urbandekay (18278)
1 Feb 10
A dishonest and silly one. Are there European-Americans, no. Just Americans all the best urban
@jb78000 (15139)
1 Feb 10
yes there are - although its usually more specific so you have irish-americans, italian-americans, greek-americans,etc etc i know they are all, well, americans but they seem to like doing this so shouldn't they?
@jb78000 (15139)
31 Jan 10
lots of americans do the hyphenation thing. something to do with being proud of your roots i suppose. i have also seen this abbreviation a lot, and yes it does look a little like a statement about hairstyles. however why do you get annoyed by hyphens?
@p1kef1sh (45681)
31 Jan 10
High fens. Is that in Lincolnshire?
@jb78000 (15139)
31 Jan 10
-- pah
• United States
31 Jan 10
The Afro-American term I believe was first adopted in the sixties or seventies and is related to the popular style of the time. Generally people say African-American nowadays, but heck their are still people who say colored, negro, and the other n word.
• United States
31 Jan 10
It's simply and shortened version of African-American. Afri-American doesn't look right. I have yet to meet a black person that was offended by this. A lot of people use Afro-American both because it's shorter and they don't want to say Black People. Obviously the majority of these people are white and afraid of offending a person of another race. I guess because I am not a racist, I don't feel the need the soften the term "Black People" by calling them Afro-Americans or African-Americans, And besides, How do they know they are "-American" They could just be African.... Food for thought. Anyway, this phrase has been used for years, and if black people were offended by it people probably wouldn't use it. Have a good one, And wear a helmet if you are going to bash your head too many times. :o)-Tony
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@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
2 Feb 10
Well see, I am of the opinion that someone is American unless they say otherwise (if they live here, generally speak English, and interact socially within accepted boundaries - not having to explain anything they do) and I have also NEVER called anybody 'afro-american' or 'african american'... lol! I tend to use names or descriptions which include height, hair color/style, or clothing to describe somebody, I wouldn't call them (insert name here) - american. I would be offended if someone did that to me, honestly, because I am not (insert name here) - american and likely neither are most people! lol One of my friends even pointed out that although he had VISITED Africa, it did not mean it made him 'from Africa' even though he IS black. He says that he is Bryan if you know him, Mr. Jones if you don't, and he is not 'african american' heh. I mean heck, I have lived in Germany, does that make me GERMAN?
• Jamaica
1 Feb 10
i believe that the term refers to persons who are born of an African and American descent. the term also signify the the combination of two different racial groups in order to create on. for example just how there is British American which simply means that the person is of a British and American descent while the term Afro American signifies the same.
• India
1 Feb 10
My exact thoughts and understanding…it refers more to the genes than anything else. If the genes are purely African and the person is born and brought up in USA then of course that person is a black American. Its people who have a mixture of African black and American white genes who are called Afro-Americans. Just the way in India we had the Anglo-Indians…people having genes of the British and Indians. I am sure there are such genetic hybrids in every country…in fact, I was reading somewhere the other day that its no longer possible to find pure genes anywhere in the world.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
3 Feb 10
Well that being said, the majority of people I know do not have any real first generation African heritage though. Their parents were born here, their grandparents were born here, they were born here. They speak english, they are culturally american. To me they are american. NOT african. So... someone calling them 'african-american' is untrue and very strange lol. The only reason I would call someone 'african-american' is if they truly came here FROM Africa and brought their African culture and continued to live that way here. Then I might consider them such, and if they wanted me to call them that, I would. Otherwise, I'd probably just use their name like a normal person would.