Which one is the worse trap?

@dawnald (85146)
Shingle Springs, California
February 2, 2010 4:34pm CST
You are in a relationship, you're not happy but you have convinced yourself that you need to stay in it. It might be because of money or religion or the children or whatever, but you have decided to stay even though you are unhappy and you see no hope of ever being happy in this relationship. or You are in a relationship, you're not happy and you know that you can leave any time. Every time you get in a fight or you can't make yourself understood or your wishes aren't respected, you want to leave. For now, you are staying trying to work it out, maybe because it used to be good or for some of the reasons stated under the first paragraph. But you know that you can walk away any time that you decide that you're 'done'. Which one is the worse trap? Forcing yourself to stay in a hopeless, unhappy situation or knowing that you can leave, which might mean you aren't giving the relationship a 100% effort?
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@weasel81 (2496)
• Australia
3 Feb 10
it is a lot worse being with some one for kids or money, i've put up with it for a long time. my partner doesn't see it thou, he's wondering why i want out. but when your not allowed to do something and have to say jump when he says. even thou he's spoilt rotten in a sense. like everything done for him, food cooked clean up after him etc. even if he won 1 million bucks in lotto i'd still be wanting to walk away. there's some things u can't fix.
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@weasel81 (2496)
• Australia
3 Feb 10
go on say it. your more than welcome.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
I just mean that it takes both people working at it to save a marriage and it doesn't sound as if your partner is working at it.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
Not unless HE wants to, sounds like...
• United States
2 Feb 10
i'd rather be in a situation where i could leave any time i wanted. at that point, i don't care if i'm giving 100% because if they aren't, why should i?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
If your heart's not in it, why stay? But I do think that in a marriage (in most cases), it warrants more effort before giving up than in a shorter term, non-committed relationship...
@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
2 Feb 10
Welcome to the disposable generation.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
lol @ disposable generation - sad, but true...
@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
4 Feb 10
if you are staying when you could leave, then you ARE giving 100% effort - staying because you CAN'T leave is worse, it leaves you feeling helpless/powerless and that just gives the abuser more power
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@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
5 Feb 10
honestly, you can always leave, its always a convinced you can't leave - and the abuser is doing his/her best to keep you so you think you can't leave
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Feb 10
Or where you convince yourself that you can't leave...
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@thuhuong (823)
• United States
4 Feb 10
I was going to choose the first trap but being unhappy just to be around for the kids is kind of torture as well. Not to be selfish but if I'm going to make it work, I gotta work well, that means mentally and as well as spiritually. I would then choose the second route. Perhaps love is meant to be found a second time around not the first for I have known that to happen a lot. You're with someone you love so much just to find that it doesn't work out. You go on with life and by chance you've found each other again when you're older, more mature and stable. Life is great that way then. So yes, trap number 2. =)
@thuhuong (823)
• United States
7 Feb 10
LOL, either it's a trap, what do you expect?
@thuhuong (823)
• United States
7 Feb 10
I meant either way it's a trap and both very long ones at it too.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Feb 10
The first situation would not be one that I would choose, that's for sure.
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
2 Feb 10
Life is too short to live unhappy. I can't do it myself & really i don't think anybody should live unhappy. U can give 100% but sometimes that is still not enough. When there is so much water under the bridge over the years it gets to the point of not being able to make it go away. It's not going to get better only worse.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
I'm sure you reach a point when you know it's just not worth it any more. Too bad a big old light doesn't just come on and say, "Ok you're done now". But that would be too easy. :-)
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
Darn, I was hoping for a light or a voice or something. lol
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
2 Feb 10
Marriage , good one or bad one is never easy. I think making a marriage work is the hardest job u will ever have but one can't do it by themself, it takes two.
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• Philippines
2 Feb 10
Only cowards would abandon a relationship. Women don't see that no matter how bad the personality of the man is, he still is willing to take care of the business in its totality. Yet its up to the woman in the end. Every boy gives freedom to his girl.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
I think it depends on the circumstances. I am stubborn and can hang in there under unpleasant circumstances for a very long time if I love the person, but I wouldn't stay with somebody who is beating me or the children no matter what.
@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
2 Feb 10
Oh lamb, I see the claws ! I see the claws! BUUURRNNN!
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• Philippines
2 Feb 10
Nice reply i respect your disagreement maam but sometimes a man is often suspected as harmful even if its not the case.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
6 Feb 10
Well I stayed mainly because of the Children but also hoped it would still work but nope it never did and I could take no more after 21 years
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
6 Feb 10
Some situations you should never stay in!
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
3 Feb 10
The worse trap in my opinion is knowing that someone has the potential to change but am not willing to because of something called ego. Sorry out of topic from your description, but I feel strongly about this worse trap definition of mine.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
4 Feb 10
Exactly.. especially when they think that by changing, they are not being themselves, where in actual case, it's for the sanctity of the relationship for a positive course.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
You are right. And that's the worst kind of relationship when somebody isn't willing to change...
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
3 Feb 10
I must say, the first one is worse. That would be the situation I'd be in if I wanted to leave. I'll be honest, the thought popped into my head once or twice over the years, especially shortly after the twins were born because we were constantly so stressed and did nothing but fight all the time. But no matter how badly I wanted to get out of my marriage, I'd never be able to. I'm a stay at home mom without a dime to my name... where would I go? I don't have a lot of friends or family to take me in. I don't think being in that situation forces you to work it out... I think it actually makes you slightly more resentful.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
And the person I was thinking of who is in that situation was very resentful last I talked to her...
• United States
3 Feb 10
The resentment only makes your marital issues even worse. You don't focus on whether or not you really want to work it out, you don't focus on if you still love your spouse, you just focus on the fact that you have no options. It's a terrible downward spiral. Trust me I've been there. I began to pull myself out of it when I realized that I was still in love, and I did still want to be with my husband. I always knew that if I did leave, I'd eventually come back... I think we just maybe needed a break at the time, but with kids and limited income, it's hard for either of us to get that break.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
4 Feb 10
Not being happy all the time with your partner is not abnormal in fact I am sure there is no one out there who feels blissfully in love all the time and is never angry or fed up with the person they are with. I guess it is a matter of determining how unhappy one can be and whether life would honestly be better away from the relationship. If things are really unbearable I don’t think it is wise to live in misery especially with children as I don’t think it is good for them to live in tension. Life is short and in my opinion once no stone has been left unturned and you can tell yourself that you have given it your all the time may have come for you to move on but not before making all possible effort.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Feb 10
NO and I wouldn't live in that situation myself. But the person I was thinking of seems to have resigned herself to it for her own reasons.
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• United States
2 Feb 10
I think that the first one is the worst, because they have lost all hope and yet are forcing themselves to stay in a prison of unhappiness and discontent. They seem to have convinced themselves, for whatever reason, that they do not have a choice in the matter, but they really do have a choice. It makes me sad to think that someone would choose this kind of life rather than trying to be happy, because life is very fleeting and we should try to fit as much joy as we can into whatever time we have, in my opinion. In the second scenario, the person not only seems to have hope that things can get better but also is working on trying to recapture that happiness. I think it is far better to realize that you can leave but choose to stay than to convince yourself that you do not have a choice in the matter. I think that choosing to stay is the important part, because it means that you want to be there and want to make things work. If the person is convinced that they have no choice but have to stay, then they are the ones that are not giving 100% to the relationship, in my opinion. The person that realizes that they can leave at any time but chooses to stay, on the other hand, is making a very conscious attempt to be in the relationship.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
Well, I hadn't thought about it quite that way!
• United States
2 Feb 10
Thank you so much for the kind words, Dawn and Holly.
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
2 Feb 10
Yo, Dawnald. First of all i must point out a small error on your issue: while one know can broke and leave anytime mean NOT is never giving 100% of his/her best to make the relationship work or restart. Effort he/she invest may be - and probably is, usualy, full or close to .. While tired of try and fail, suddenly will cease and simply leave. As a trap, I think both are similar and the "I can leave anytime" and the "must hang on with, even if is hell" are both false presumptions. Once one from the couple start thinking "this is hell !", there is only one way out: an open dialog with the otherone ! Which will lead to "problem solved" or "end of journey together". Kids have nothing to do with. Is whorst to keep the couple .. childrens will know something is wrong maybe before parents realize ..
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
Of course, open dialog assumes that both parties are willing to talk honestly. But I agree...
@wmraul (2552)
• Bucharest, Romania
2 Feb 10
Open dialog may mean many things which will make things stay on limits and not become hell or unhappiness: - open relationship; - premarital clear agreements (not that kind of contract about money, an understanding about how to deal problems); - use of professional help; There are many ways, yet, yes, indeed, all of them require the both sides will to solve the problem. BUT .. this shouldn't be a problem at all. Because if those two are together, is assumed they WANTED, BOTH, to be together. If one or both stop wanting that, mean something very deep has changed ... and is no way to stay and try make it work nor suffer the hell life ..
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• United States
2 Feb 10
I think knowing that you are stuck because of kids or money is worse. Because you are always tied to them through kids or you feel that you are absolutely hopeless because you know that you don't have money to get away from a bad situation.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
I think it's not so much "being stuck" as "choosing to be stuck" in the first situation. In other words, it's a trap that you're putting yourself into, possibly because the alternative is so frightening and difficult.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
I would agree with that.
@atv818 (1980)
• United Arab Emirates
4 Feb 10
The WORST trap is that you are in a situation wherein you can make a decision to change your life and you are not doing it. You have the right to do what makes you happy. Making your life miserable also makes the people around you miserable as well. I'm not saying that you break vows or rules. Just don't go into such an agreement in the first place so that nothing will be broken in the end. Only you can save yourself and nobody else.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 Feb 10
If only we could see far enough into the future to know that it isn't going to work out...
@34momma (13882)
• United States
3 Feb 10
what a great question. i think be trapped in an unhappy relationship and feeling like you can't get out is worst. it beats you down to the ground. you don't see any way out of the mess yourself into. damn it girl..... you are asking some good questions.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
I agree, the first is the worst. But the second is a trap that you can get yourself into also. Yeah, lots of good questions. If I only had answers. :-)
• United States
3 Feb 10
being stuck with no money to get out. been there,done that..had two jobs,still none leftover..called for help. help came,bye bye. if i'd had the money to leave earlier,he wouldn't have seen my dust.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
And there's the problem with a lot of women, especially stay at home moms. No money, no idea how they'd get by on their own. Self esteem problems and fear (and a dose of reality too).
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@savypat (20216)
• United States
3 Feb 10
I would try to keep in mind that I have only one life at this time, no matter what your believe. To live that life unhappy for whatever reason is to sacrifice the life.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
I certainly wouldn't sacrifice my entire life in an unhappy relationship, but I might consider it worth investing a year or two of effort to try and save one that used to be really good (assuming the partner is working at it also).
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
3 Feb 10
Never ever stay in a relationship because of the children. I lived all my childhood with parents who stayed together because of the children and I was so adversly affected. The scars are carried for life. A trial separation of 6 months may be the answer. Sometimes a peson may need to get away to fully assess her/his life. I dunno. Many women do stay because they could not manage without the money or they love their homes. Whatever. Unless both partners will go into counselling and be willing to learn and accept and respect each other's differences then it doesn't make much sense to stay. Childen are not the reason to stay though - that I am so sure of.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
6 months sounds good to me...
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
3 Feb 10
I think that the worse for me would be to feel like I was forced to stay. I think that by feeling like I could get out if I wanted to would give me a little more happiness in a bad situation. I don't like feeling trapped.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
Nope, me either.
@CRIVAS (1815)
• Canada
3 Feb 10
Wow really good question, although personally I wouldn't stay if I was unhappy. I would leave. I suppose that if I have to choose I would say that the first one would be worse. The reason I say that is because in the first one it seems as though the decision is already made and although you aren't happy you have decided to stay. I suppose that would be worse for me. However I think that both situations are horrible reasons to stay in a relationship. First of all, staying in a relationship even if your miserable just because you have children is horrible. Children are highly intelligent. They will pick up on tension and dislike in the house, especially between parents, I speak from personal experience. Secondly it has been studied and it is thought that emotions are contagious so if you and your partner are not happy with a situation or relationship, chances are your children will pick up on those emotions and reflect them. I think that if you are unhappy in a relationship and you have tried to fix it but nothing works, then it is time to move on and try to be happy. You will never be happy if you are in a relationship that you don't want to be in and staying in it just because of whatever reason, isn't a good idea, it just breads hostility and bad relations. I hope that you aren't in one of those positions and that you have a happy life. Happy mylotting.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Feb 10
The first situation would be intolerable for me. The second situation is do-able as long as there are deadlines and goals. "I will stay for one year and put the idea of leaving out of my head and do everything I know how to communicate well and go to counseling and try to work with the other person." As opposed to just hanging in there for no particular reason other than not knowing what to do or being afraid to strike out on my own.