Dont believe in every thing a man says..because its mostly lies...
By Jhaszy
@Jhaszy (234)
Philippines
February 3, 2010 12:11am CST
There is a saying that Men can get the womans LOYALTY but not the TRUST..while Women can get the mans TRUST but not his loyalty..Once a trust is broken like a broken glass it is impossible to put it together..I have been cheated twice,and i find it so difficult to trust men now.I also have a friend who has a bad experienced,and she said we shouldnt believe to every mans words because they are mostly lies..
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46 responses
@sexyposh (575)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Sorry but I beg to disagree. I know some of them cheats, but not all of them. Its not also fair to generalize every men to be cheaters. If you think this way, how are you suppose to meet the right one? That from the start of a relationship you already think negative against them.
I think you should change your views and make your self interesting. Try not to be too clingy, men hates girls who are too dependent. And stop being too nosey, they're still individuals and wish to have a private life. Learn to compromise, because its not all about you... Plus pay a visit to the salon once in a while, because boys really like what they see specially if we're beautiful.. Men lose interest in their relationships because we women make wrong moves too, these are the things I've learned from my boyfriend and we're 3 years now..
Good Luck! May the Lord bless you another relationship that will last..
@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Hi!
I think i said "mostly lies",i didnt say all..and you seem like you know me?bcos you said "stop being nosey?How did you know i am?and how did you know i am an unintersting person?and how did you know i stop visiting saloon?You have been with your bfren for 3 yrs only..some have been like forever and yet they broke up.And how do you know with my relationship its all about me and i dotn know how to compromise Dear?and how you know i am clingy?and dependent?i am not stupid that i dont know we women make wrong moves too!
i appreciate your respond but try to review what your saying here..seems like you were judgemental and like scolding me and telling me who i am as if you do really know me and telling me what to do as if i am a child!...you dont know what has happend and you dont know me!so chill out!if your bfren is not a lier then CONGRATULATION!!!God bless you too!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Oh, no is this a cat fight? lolz but she has a point, sexyposh. i think you judge her too quickly since the topic was more generalize even if it's just focusing on the few.
Like i said it would have been better if there was a story so that it will be understood by other people.
@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Hi Letran Knight,
Well only her didnt understood,and others response except hers are nice and not judgemental...well although i agree with her saying i need to visit saloon bcos i saw her profile she is too far more beautiful than me..sorry i cant put the whole story i will run out of space here heheehheheh...joke!
Thank you!!!
Jhasz
@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
4 Feb 10
TRUST is very important, hence it should not be given out without like menu flyers and coupons.
Trust someone you really know, not someone you meet 3 hours a week or talk to the phone once in while or chat on the internet every once in a while. Get to know the person before "trusting" someone.
Knowing someone means you know his flaws not just how good or how great he is. This also mean you know where he can fail you, and where you must forgive him. If you really trust someone, you'll know when they are sincere and when they are not and that is part of the rapor. If he tells you he will give you the moon, you know that no matter how much you trust him it is impossible literally and if you take it to heart and lose your trust? Then you are a fool.
If you know that he is a womanizer and expect him to change JUST for YOU, I will tell you flat out YOU are a FOOL.
I am a man and I admit that men are weak. That is why we need strong women to make us strong. Keep us on the path.
That is why you should be strong and wise. Choose who you will trust, don't give it out like coupons. Make sure that you do not ask the impossible of him and learn to forgive.
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@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
No last man i was with wasnt the fruitful words type,he is so normal and responsible i fell in love with him quickly,he didnt promise any moons or whatsoever..he was responsible and supported as well...inn return even if were worlds apart i tried to be always there for him everytime he wants to see me...when he started to cheat and i felt it even if he was lying i still hold on to him and give him freedom to go wherever he wants to bcos maybe he felt like i was choking him even if were worlds apart,but still it was a wrong move.Tried telling him to be strong to temptations but what to do he said he is tired of being alone and we being far from each other..i do understand him,but he should have tell me first before he cheated and he made me watch him chatting to his new gfren while we were in online video,and he was exchanging kisses in windows live..if yo were me can u take that?
heheheh anyway this is all just a discussion just sorry i didnt put on the real story,if i did you would ask me wheres this man so you can beat his wit out of him..
Thanks!
@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
It's either I would do that or ask him for tips! Kidding aside tho, I'm glad you are handling this well enough.
At the very least he helped you grow in your maturity.
Be careful in choosing the person you will trust next time and don't let anyone... I do mean ANYONE step on your person.
REMEMBER that people put their BEST FOOT forward when they are trying to please someone and need something BUT show their true personalities when they have what they want, when no one is watching and when they just don't care about you anymore.
Listen to your friends and your family as well, their usually is wisdom in their observations even when they are truly annoying! hahaha
Good luck on future relationships.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Feb 10
Jhaszy you have been very unfortunate with your men and your friend also. I have had just one husband and he was one of the most honest, trustworthy men I had ever known. He would never ever have betrayed me in any way. He always told others that not only was I his wife but his best friend, and I did always try to be both his lover and his best friend. we did always confide in each other every thing and we did not hold things back between us.'this made for a happy life together as we backed each other up in spite of hardships and bad times.We were always there for each other and knowing that made it so much happier and easier no matter what life threw our way.So I have always had a positive outlook on men myself. I do know a lot of men are very callous in the way they treat women they profess to love. I feel so sad for women who have fallen in love for these bozos.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
4 Feb 10
Hatley, yours is a marriage made from heaven. It is rare that man stay devoted to his wife and yours is a gem that need no polishing. Some men are only applying lip services and upon expiry of the honeymoon period the women whom they have promised the moon and the star are suddenly treated like discarded old furniture.
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@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
Ah i too agree that many women are liers and cheaters..ive known few who are lucky to have a generous bfren give them all the riches and yet still not satisfied still have another bfren that clinging to them whenever the husband is not around here..i dotn know what theyre thinking..while me here having a hard time to find a guy like what they have found..Thanks a lot!
@laura_lmaxi (678)
• United States
4 Feb 10
I agree that many women are even worst, I have some female friends that doesn't believe in human sensitivity and they do whatever they want with their boyfriends. It is very sad, because most of the times those girls have the most devoted boyfriends in the world. Those types of women are very good in hiding their flaws and hiding also every dirty laundry that they may have.
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@canielynne (135)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Hey Jhaszy.. it seems like you're becoming a man hater.. as for me I am already afraid to trust mens.. because of the experiences of my mom and my best friends .. I convinced myself that out of 100 mens only one of them can be trusted... so now I am already afraid to get into a relationship.. as for me.. mens are better friend than a lover...! take care and happy mylotting
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@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Ah hahahahah..i agree with you dear!I used to have a boy bestfrens and yes theyre better as bestfrens bcos they dont tell your secrets...check out the response of sexyposh..and my response to her response to me..and tell me what do you think?
Thnk you very much!!
@johndur (3052)
• Pasig, Philippines
3 Feb 10
i think its not fair to collectively say men are mostly liars.if only women has the capability to psyche what men are saying im sure you wont get a liar man.the problem with women is they can be easily hooked on mens flowery words.if only you try to use your mind you wont be getting the wrong man.always be cautious about what men are saying try to trap them by their own words and keep track on everything they say im sure you will find something useful for you to know what his real intension are.besides you can easily detect a lie if you just pay attention in every detail a person is uttering.chances are we men get small mistakes when we try lie or hide something from a woman and that should be the one you should look out for.
i hope you good luck in finding your right person im sure there is one for everybody.good luck!
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@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
Im only human i commit mistakes even if heart and mind says i did a right choice,still its not a strong to depend that i did right..well its part of life,its a matter of how we faced it.If were in love we are blind and deaf in every wrong we see..we only listen to our hearts..until its too late..
Thanks a lot for the response!
@kquiming (2997)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
I can say the same thing for myself. I've been cheated a couple of times, but still, that hasn't made me lose hope on finding some real honest man. Loyal and trustworthy. I guess I also have to change some of my ways to be considered loyal and/or trustworthy, and that would be only fair if I want men to behave like that to me.
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@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
6 Feb 10
Yeah i admit,maybe i did something wrong too thats why he didnt stick to his promise and was temp..but what i can think of a fault in our relationship is we are both far,he lives in the other side of the world.Twice ive been cheated of the same reason.ive always been faithful and loyal,and trustworthy..maybe i just keep on bumping into the wrong men..so right now i need to give myself a rest for another pain..im happy being with no man,for almost 3 yrs now..Thank you for your reply!!!
@teamrose (1492)
• United States
3 Feb 10
That is just a shame. You have to wipe the slate clean and trust all men are not the same. The problem is so many women just jump right into the first relationship they find. Slow down. Take your time. Get to know the next man you get serious about.
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@shattered (1728)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
Ahh so you have children... it may complicate things, then again, someone who can accept you including your past mistakes and someone who can share the joy of your children with you should be a good indicator of a trustworthy man.
In any case, I agree with teamrose, take your time. Enjoy your children, enjoy your life. You don't have to rush into complicated emotions and situations, they will be their in their own time. love usually finds the people not looking for it, so the saying goes.
@Tallygirl09 (1380)
• United States
4 Feb 10
I am so sorry to hear that you have had 2 very bad experiences with men. I can well understand why you are finding it hard to trust again but if you don't take the risk then you won't ever be able to find someone who will treat you right. There are many good men out there so try not to judge them all by the 2 bad experiences you've had.
What I would add is that to me trust is something that has to be earned. When you next meet someone that you think might be special, take your time and really take things slow. Get to meet his friends and family if possible. One can tell alot about a man by the company he keeps!
Not all men are cheaters just like not all women are faithful. There are those who are worthy of our love, trust and devotion. Take care!
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@Tallygirl09 (1380)
• United States
5 Feb 10
You may have heard the phrase that when you aren't looking for love, it finds you. I think that will be true for you. You are too special to shut down the possibilties of life. One has to take the good with the bad! Take care!!
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
5 Feb 10
Hiya jhasy,
This could be applied to both Men and Women in general because there are always double edged swords and double sided stories too. No one is better than the other while it is true that Men can be notorious Don Juans or Casanovas so can Women too you only have to do a bit of research to realise that there have even been Women Pirates besides other things.
A glass can be broken yes but so can a Mirror a Mirror that probably both of them have both looked into many times that surely must be heartbreaking. How much heartbreak no one can ever know but themselves.
Again this description can be applied to so many happenings not only falling in love, in Families for example.
We can only sweep up the shattered glass and mirrors and start all over again.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
6 Feb 10
Hiya jhasy,
Really hard to suggest what someone else should do to avoid another trip up against the same hard stone.
Everyone no matter who they are are have a God given right to be happy so when the chance comes take it up if it seems right let no shadow overtake you from your past if you can. Remember also you are equal to that Man never consider yourself anything but equal to him. Here´s to you finding him he´ll turn up sooner or later. Hugs. Sue.xxx
@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
4 Feb 10
Not all men are liars, everyone lies a little I think. Women lie and cheat also. If you have had bad experiences, try not to be bitter and maybe you will meet someone who won't lie and cheat. It is going to take you awhile to be able to trust again and that might be a good thing. Maybe if you get into a new relationship and are a little leary of trusting the man at first, it would be good. I know myself, when I start a new relationship, I go overboard at the start.
@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
6 Feb 10
Sometimes there are advantages to being single. Course there are advantages to having someone in your life also. I hope you find someone that makes you happy soon!
@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
You dont know the whole story,but its ok i appreaciate your response..i could help to feel bitter bcos i was betrayed despite me being faithful and true while other women are cheating on thier husband..well for now i am happy being single again..hassle free,but still believe someday the right person will come along worth my trust..Thank you very much!!!
@lovelyn_medrano (3070)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Well everybody is capable of telling lies... regardless of gender. Trust and loyalty is really hard to earn, it takes a lot of heart and hardship... I cannot blame you ar anybody, if you think like that now for I know your bad experiences made you like that. I also agree with you Jhaszy that once trust is broken, winning it back would be hard but it is still not impossible--- it is possible but the person must really prove himself. He must do something good and stay good-- TIME heals all wound... Bringing back trust needs lots of time.
I think it is somehow wrong to generalize men (though most of them are liars). Well still, it depends on ones personality... I still believe that accusing other men for what they haven't done yet is wrong...
Have a nice day Jhaszy!
Opps! I forgot there are other men who would try to twist the situations just to escape on their wrong doings... They will try hard to make you look like wrong... And feel sorry in the end???
@lovelyn_medrano (3070)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
why? what's with sexyposh's response? Okay I will check it out and probably add comment on it? Well I think it some kinda interesting for you to refer me or your other respondents here...
@MimiRemo (418)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Yeah, once trust is broken, it's almost impossible to earn it back, I agree. And sometimes, there's just one chance too many. But it is entirely up to us, our judgment and feelings towards a guy when it comes to believing in his words. I also think that when we listen to them, we should still have some reservations to ourselves and not expect much on the talk. That's what I usually do, stay on the safe side...hehe. Sorry to hear about your bad relationships in the past.
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@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
Ah yes i do agree..but sometimes when in love we dont think..i had pour and give everything,for i think he is the right man for me,to be with and to grow old with,and i forgot to reserve for myself..so it ends this way,me losing trust in men..but as i said to others here,i am not losing hope i still believe theres still someone out there for me...Thanks for a very nice response!
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
3 Feb 10
I'm lucky to have found a man who really is honest (or seems like it!) Well for what it's worth he looks convincingly honest.
I am the one who ends up spinning lies to him especially when sometimes I just want him to get off my back sometimes.
The thing about him is that he may not really lie but he doesn't divulge anything unless he's being asked first.
How I knew about his exes, I had to ask first. How I knew a lot of stuffs about his past, I had to ask first.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Feb 10
Hi jhaszy, yah I read her post and I understood why you had to react that way. Sometimes, some responses do seem offensive, judgmental or presumptive at first glance. When I meet responses like that I try not to take it negatively as it would make me feel worse in the end. Perhaps you could try to take it at a more positive light. Besides, I knew she meant well by those advices she gave you.
It's true that relationships work two-way. Sometimes, we girls needed to make adjustments too to make it work. However, there should have been a better way of saying things. Even if she didn't mean to generalize, and judge you, she seemed to have given you that impression. Just be cool. I believe she only meant well.
@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Hi! I am happy too you found an honest man..i used to think like that t
o him too..but as i said mostly but i dont say all..ive known some men who were honest too with thier wives and 3 of my bestfrens has this....Thank you for the response and for understanding really about the topic..check out sexyposh response to me and pls tell me if i was wrong to respond to her that way..have a nice day!!!
Jhasz
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
6 Feb 10
Although I would tend to agree, the problem I have is, women are not much better. I've seen women lie, manipulate, deceive, ditch their husbands for other men, sleep around with whomever, and then act all indignation when men do the same.
One of the reasons I remain single, and happily single, is because I simply can't trust women.
Let us even say that I met you specifically. How do I know you are truthful? How do I know you won't become bossy and controlling? How do I know you won't find me boring after we marry, and run off with someone else?
Because you say so? Have you met a girl yet who said "I'm going to run away with another guy after we marry"? Nope. Right, so how can I trust you?
So honestly, I don't find that saying very true. Women are no better than men, from what I've seen. Women are about a loyal as rats. They invade your home just long enough to steal whatever they can, and then they leave. Women will stick around so long as you keep giving them whatever they want, and keep them entertained. As soon as they get bored, or you don't submit to their every demand *poof* their gone.
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@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
6 Feb 10
Hi Andy..i had to do this response to your comment twice the other one didnt come thru and it a was a bit long..Well Ive heard many complaints from men in your country abt your women out there, thats why they travel across Asia bcos they find women from our country more faithful and trustworthy apart from more pretty lolz!But im not saying all of us asians are nice..Yes there are others who are unfaithful,scammers,liers yes you name it..And part of modern technology there are women now who are smarter and has stronger personality then men,thats why they tend to be dominant and bossy.I felt bad abt your comment bcos you maybe have been ditch.Well same as me too.And how would you know if i am truthful or a woman is truthful?No you cant until you learn to trust women same as me i wont know if you are truthful to me until i will learn to trust men again...so for now we will always have doubts..I respect your comment Andy..Thank you very much!!!
@bingchen (1119)
• China
4 Feb 10
although i have this experience.but i dont think that what men's speaking are lying.it only depend on my intuition to think about that.i find that they would not alwayse speak lie.it make them tired to do like that.although this man lie me.but i find that he have some moral.because he can talk me about his history,it is true.why did he treat me?because he cheat my money.it is his aim.so what he done have hurt my heart.i think that if i have no value for him,he could not cheat me.
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@216ashutosh (27)
• India
4 Feb 10
being a man, i must oppose your statement but being a true judger for the most obivious situation, i agree with you a most. actually this is not only man's nature but also a women nature. so you cannot continue or gamin m uch in life without trusting anyone....so i think you sholud take care of every careful steps that one takes for his own benefits, but you should be socially active and communicative.
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@Emilycheerup (22)
• China
4 Feb 10
what can we believe? what shall we trust then? is not it gonna be too difficult...I have been longing for a stable and constant relationship...however, only because I dare not to trust the guys I have met,, I have been single all these time...does that worth?
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@Jhaszy (234)
• Philippines
5 Feb 10
Hi Emily..i have not been with a man for almost two yrs now,,been looking in the internet but found no one with my liking and can be trusted..but im not so sad i dont have a man,bcos it also saves me from additional responsibilites like taking care of our man,the jealousy,the quarrel over budgeting,and other troubles when we have a relationship..now actually im quite happy with no man in my life,but i have my kids keeping me busy.Although yes there are times i long for someone to hug and monkey cling with at night or everytime i feel i want to hug soemone,but thats it..not really pressured to look for a man,not really over trusting them,but i know someday someone will come worth trusting for..Thanks Emily for your response!
@cloud31 (5809)
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3 Feb 10
They lied because they choose to cheat,i never been cheated by any man but some of my friends tell me so,I have encountered some man lies in a relationship but not regards to my relationship with him, I consider myself lucky in love because of the man i get involved with are willing reveal themselves just to earn my trust,loyalty is another word i don't know much about your feeling because i never been to it, but i think not all man similar to what they think they are. I hope you can find a man who will be true to you and you may able to see how what is loyalty and what is all about them(man)..God bless you !
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@cloud31 (5809)
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3 Feb 10
Your welcome dear! i just wish one day your life will be filled with happiness and at that time you will be able to tell others how fortunate you are, that you have found the right and perfect man of your own!That time you will be able to see the other side of love, Love with loyalty and truth! Happy lotting and God bless !
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