Do you believe in global warming or do you think it is a farce?

I'm sorry ... who are these vast majority of scientists you speak of??? I can find equal numbers that point the other direction on the issues. Like I said the scientists have their own agenda too and the imperfections of man. The data was tampered with... we have been cooling over the past decade... it's been scientifically proved. Nature isn't the same all the time... it's not meant to be the same temp today and it was this day last year and it never will be.

And where is this evidence that runs contrary to the consensus of option of the vast majority of scientists? all the best urban

i can find them for you: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11462 incidentally anyway listening to unemployed politicians pretending to be scientists really should be taking what they say with at least a pinch of salt. and the same goes for anybody will oil industry backing - which at the moment is far more powerful then the emerging 'green industry'. certainly there is money and power involved - where most of it is is interesting.

Sun spots are actually just a reference guide to what is happening under the surface. Typically as nuclear radiation output increases, so to do sun spots. However, this is only a relative link, and not a direct correlation. Historically speaking though, as sun spots decrease, so does temperature. As sun spots increase, so to does the temperature. There are other factors though, such as the magnetic field of the Earth, and how solar winds from the sun effect cloud formation.

key word there is 'historically'. yes until the 70s sunspot activity was closely linked to climate changes in an 11 year cycle. since then, no.

and what research are you referring to andy? are you talking about sun spot activity?

Actually, the ozone hole was first noticed in 1945, before aerosol hair spray was invented, & before refrigerators became commonplace. Mount Pinatubo (located in Antarctica) sprays more chlorofluorocarbons into the upper atmosphere daily than all of the ones created by humans since we began using them. It is the main cause of the hole. Oh, & by the way, CFCs are heavier than air, so we couldn't get ours up that high without going up there & dumping them. The biggest reason the "green" movement has been going gangbusters ('til lately) is political. It gobbles people's power, giving it to the government, & in the process, has wasted trillions of the world's tax monies. If we were causing this "warming" (we're in a cooling period, actually, & it's all natural...either that or we get to blame the greenies for all the frikkin' blizzards we're getting), then have fun explaining how we did it for every planet in our solar system, please--including the Pluto/Sharon bodies. No, the warming and cooling of the earth (& all our planets) is the doing of our sun, Sol. To think otherwise isn't just junk science, it's arrogance in the extreme. "Mother Nature" has more power in her little left pinky than all of humanity combined! As more & more daily revelations of fraud & suppression of real science found in the clandestine emails the "scientists" wrote is revealed to a formerly-hoodwinked public (which had swallowed the expensive, totalitarian propaganda) awaken, this simple fact which we all were taught in 3rd grade becomes obvious. Now, the long, stupid nightmare--exposed to the light of the sun--is--finally!--dissipating. Sigh...now you're in the rapidly-expanding ranks of other former victims of junk science who have been wised up. You're welcome! Maggiepie "This is the day which the Lord has made; let us rejoice & be glad in it!"

you really do know lots about junk science

Well if you guys would have read my whole post you would realize that I take a neutral position about global warming, because we do need more evidence that is a natural process and or that it is all caused by human beings, there is evidence that suggest one side and there is evidence that suggest others, yes the Ozone layer was discovered in 1945 and yes it was before the invention of aerosols but before from many years ago there has been a lot of use of fossil fuels, which is one of the causes of the ozone layer whole, there is another natural factors of course, and another thing, telling me that I know junk science shouldn't come from someone that said that the Mount Pinatubo is in the Antarctica, when in reality is in the island of Luzon in the Philippines. And I am not a victim of a junk science, I am researcher in engineer in electronics, and as I said before my posture is not against and not in favor. There is needed more evidence to support both arguments

Isn't it funny though that before the green movement, before global warming became such a huge issue, that companies (big business)were fighting against government giving us standards (emissions standards come to mind). When we wanted to curve pollution, big business has their lawyers in court fighting against goveernment decrees. Now people complain that big business is trying to scare people with global warming when in reality, it's big business fighting against groups like the green movement.

well, the ice cap thing has already been disproven, it was a misquote by gore of a scientist who came back and said gore had misquoted him...oops... Polar bears can swim, they don't need ice to float on to catch fish and they are in fact in much greater numbers (by thousands) than they were even 20 years ago. I wouldn't waste your money on bottled water either, it isn't any better than the stuff that comes out of your tap and you will be supporting large monopolies that are trying to gain controll of a natural resource that rightly should belong to all of us.

What Gore says is not the point, the vast majority of scientists concur that there is significant melting of the caps all the best urban

Polar bear populations dwindled due to over hunting, once this was curtailed their numbers rebounded, this accounts for the rise Xfactor refers to, it does not indicate that their numbers now are not in decline all the best urban

'because it is true that from the overall years the temperature of the earth has increased more than it was before at this time in the previous years" Actually, thats not true...we just got finished with the coolest decade we have experienced in almost a century.